Reid Email

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Damn, the anti trans folks are out tonight. So what’s next: will the schools be forced to report to parents that their kid said they were gay? Will a teacher be fired if a student comes out to them and the teacher says something supportive to the student?

I wonder if the PPs even read the email, it literally said they weren’t making any changes - that they are already compliant with the law.

FCPS current LGBTQIA policy
https://www.fcps.edu/lgbtqia

I don't see where it says that school personnel have to lie to parents if the parents ask if their child has changed their name/pronoun. Before someone references the "need to know" line, I would think the parents have a need to know.

The point is that unless there is parental permission, the schools can’t just follow the whims of the child in regard to pronouns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damn, the anti trans folks are out tonight. So what’s next: will the schools be forced to report to parents that their kid said they were gay? Will a teacher be fired if a student comes out to them and the teacher says something supportive to the student?

I wonder if the PPs even read the email, it literally said they weren’t making any changes - that they are already compliant with the law.

FCPS current LGBTQIA policy
https://www.fcps.edu/lgbtqia

I don't see where it says that school personnel have to lie to parents if the parents ask if their child has changed their name/pronoun. Before someone references the "need to know" line, I would think the parents have a need to know.

The point is that unless there is parental permission, the schools can’t just follow the whims of the child in regard to pronouns.

To be clear: Does FCPS policy say that school personnel are supposed to lie to the parents if a student has changed their name/pronoun and the student has not told their parents?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if you bothered to open the link in the first paragraph, you’d see she is responding to the scary policy assault on trans kids whereby the state is saying that school systems are bound to only call kids by their name listed on their registration form and to only use the pronouns he/him or she/her based on what sex is marked on the registration. Apparently this is the most important thing on the governor’s agenda.

It’s absolutely frightening. Virginia just took a big step closer to becoming Florida.

So teachers can't use a student's nickname?

Anonymous wrote:Teachers have to stay in their lane, oh the horror!

Most teachers resent being caught in the middle of this controversy. This is coming from the school board and Gatehouse. Don't put it on the teachers.

Nicknames that aren’t the opposite gender are fine. So if a student’s name is Thomas, the child can say call me Tom. But he can’t say, call me “Sally” now, which is a different gender unless there is parental permission. But you knew that.

No, I didn't know that. Here in the age of legalize and lawsuits, I want everything spelled out for me with no doubt about the meaning.

From the State Policy page 16:
[School Division] personnel shall refer to each student using only (i) the name
that appears in the student’s official record, or (ii) if the student prefers, using
any nickname commonly associated with the name that appears in the student’s
official record
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/home/showdocument?id=46509&t=638252835940748322

Does this rule out Bubba and Sasha without written parental permission?

[Anonymous]

Bathroom use --

FCPS: Ensures students can use the locker room or restroom that aligns with their gender identity and forbids forcing them to use only a private area, single-occupancy accommodation, or other single-use facility.

New Model: On bathroom use, the policy requires students to use school bathrooms and locker rooms matching the sex they were assigned at birth, unless federal law requires otherwise. In addition, overnight travel in hotels, locker rooms, and other intimate spaces for school activities must be based on biological sex, according to the guidance.

Reid: I want to be clear that FCPS remains committed to an inclusive and affirming learning environment for each and every student and staff member including those who are transgender or gender expansive. We believe our current FCPS policies are consistent with federal and state anti-discrimination laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you bothered to open the link in the first paragraph, you’d see she is responding to the scary policy assault on trans kids whereby the state is saying that school systems are bound to only call kids by their name listed on their registration form and to only use the pronouns he/him or she/her based on what sex is marked on the registration. Apparently this is the most important thing on the governor’s agenda.

It’s absolutely frightening. Virginia just took a big step closer to becoming Florida.

So teachers can't use a student's nickname?

Anonymous wrote:Teachers have to stay in their lane, oh the horror!

Most teachers resent being caught in the middle of this controversy. This is coming from the school board and Gatehouse. Don't put it on the teachers.

Nicknames that aren’t the opposite gender are fine. So if a student’s name is Thomas, the child can say call me Tom. But he can’t say, call me “Sally” now, which is a different gender unless there is parental permission. But you knew that.

Tom is a commonly associated nickname for Thomas. Now, if Thomas goes by “Chip” because when he was born someone said he was a chip off the old block and that stuck, the school will need permission to use that nickname. Chip isn’t commonly associated with Thomas. Same if Sun-Young goes by “Sally”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you bothered to open the link in the first paragraph, you’d see she is responding to the scary policy assault on trans kids whereby the state is saying that school systems are bound to only call kids by their name listed on their registration form and to only use the pronouns he/him or she/her based on what sex is marked on the registration. Apparently this is the most important thing on the governor’s agenda.

It’s absolutely frightening. Virginia just took a big step closer to becoming Florida.

So teachers can't use a student's nickname?

Anonymous wrote:Teachers have to stay in their lane, oh the horror!

Most teachers resent being caught in the middle of this controversy. This is coming from the school board and Gatehouse. Don't put it on the teachers.

Nicknames that aren’t the opposite gender are fine. So if a student’s name is Thomas, the child can say call me Tom. But he can’t say, call me “Sally” now, which is a different gender unless there is parental permission. But you knew that.

No, I didn't know that. Here in the age of legalize and lawsuits, I want everything spelled out for me with no doubt about the meaning.

From the State Policy page 16:
[School Division] personnel shall refer to each student using only (i) the name
that appears in the student’s official record, or (ii) if the student prefers, using
any nickname commonly associated with the name that appears in the student’s
official record
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/home/showdocument?id=46509&t=638252835940748322

Does this rule out Bubba and Sasha without written parental permission?

I would say yes, it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you bothered to open the link in the first paragraph, you’d see she is responding to the scary policy assault on trans kids whereby the state is saying that school systems are bound to only call kids by their name listed on their registration form and to only use the pronouns he/him or she/her based on what sex is marked on the registration. Apparently this is the most important thing on the governor’s agenda.

It’s absolutely frightening. Virginia just took a big step closer to becoming Florida.

Scary policy? It's just correcting the previous policy that encouraged schools to lie to parents when students change their pronouns.

No, that's not all it is. Also, why do they insist parents have to put in writing their name change? I'm not sure every parent of a kid who is gender expansive at 13 wants to do that. Why can't parents who DON'T want to have their kid be called by a different name/pronoun be the ones who write that in.

[Anonymous]

What she is saying is they don’t care what state policies are, she doesn’t plan to follow them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bathroom use --

FCPS: Ensures students can use the locker room or restroom that aligns with their gender identity and forbids forcing them to use only a private area, single-occupancy accommodation, or other single-use facility.

New Model: On bathroom use, the policy requires students to use school bathrooms and locker rooms matching the sex they were assigned at birth, unless federal law requires otherwise. In addition, overnight travel in hotels, locker rooms, and other intimate spaces for school activities must be based on biological sex, according to the guidance.

Reid: I want to be clear that FCPS remains committed to an inclusive and affirming learning environment for each and every student and staff member including those who are transgender or gender expansive. We believe our current FCPS policies are consistent with federal and state anti-discrimination laws.

This is what I'm worried about for my childrens' transgender friends. I firmly believe transgender youth should be allowed to use the bathroom and locker room of their choice. Transgender children/youth who have been using facilities aligned to their preferred gender should get to continue doing so.

I care less about the request for a name change being told to parents.

[Anonymous]

This is what I'm worried about for my childrens' transgender friends. I firmly believe transgender youth should be allowed to use the bathroom and locker room of their choice. Transgender children/youth who have been using facilities aligned to their preferred gender should get to continue doing so.

1. What is considered "officially" transgender? Can a gender fluid kid decide to use boy's room one day and girls' the next?

2. Does a biological girl have a right to object to a locker room with a biological boy? What about her rights?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you bothered to open the link in the first paragraph, you’d see she is responding to the scary policy assault on trans kids whereby the state is saying that school systems are bound to only call kids by their name listed on their registration form and to only use the pronouns he/him or she/her based on what sex is marked on the registration. Apparently this is the most important thing on the governor’s agenda.

It’s absolutely frightening. Virginia just took a big step closer to becoming Florida.

Common sense is frightening to some people?

Have you read the policy? It is ridiculous! Not only does it stipulate that schools cannot call students by an alternative name or nickname unless the parent(s) approve it IN WRITING, it also says parents have to approve, IN WRITING, any nicknames kids choose to use.

So you'll have to approve if Jennifer wants to go by Jenny at school, if Hye Min wants to be called Hazel at school, or Mary Elizabeth wants to be called Mary Beth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damn, the anti trans folks are out tonight. So what’s next: will the schools be forced to report to parents that their kid said they were gay? Will a teacher be fired if a student comes out to them and the teacher says something supportive to the student?

I wonder if the PPs even read the email, it literally said they weren’t making any changes - that they are already compliant with the law.

I wonder if the folks against Youngkins new policy even have kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damn, the anti trans folks are out tonight. So what’s next: will the schools be forced to report to parents that their kid said they were gay? Will a teacher be fired if a student comes out to them and the teacher says something supportive to the student?

I wonder if the PPs even read the email, it literally said they weren’t making any changes - that they are already compliant with the law.

FCPS current LGBTQIA policy
https://www.fcps.edu/lgbtqia

I don't see where it says that school personnel have to lie to parents if the parents ask if their child has changed their name/pronoun. Before someone references the "need to know" line, I would think the parents have a need to know.

The point is that unless there is parental permission, the schools can’t just follow the whims of the child in regard to pronouns.

To be clear: Does FCPS policy say that school personnel are supposed to lie to the parents if a student has changed their name/pronoun and the student has not told their parents?

Reid spoke at a community meeting at our high school last year.

A parent asked Reid what the official FCPS was regarding parent opt outs of FLE and transgender curriculum.

Reid's response was that if a parent opted their kid out of any part of fle, and the lesson involve transgender tooics in any form, the minor student could opt themselves back into the fle lesson with no parent notification from the school, teacher or FCPS.

The parent restated this back to Reid for clarification.

Reid affirmed that overriding parent opt out of fle when the lesson involved anything transgender was the official FCPS policy, then gave some smiling gobblygook about acceptance.

This was in front of around 100 parents at one of her meet and greet community sessions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you bothered to open the link in the first paragraph, you’d see she is responding to the scary policy assault on trans kids whereby the state is saying that school systems are bound to only call kids by their name listed on their registration form and to only use the pronouns he/him or she/her based on what sex is marked on the registration. Apparently this is the most important thing on the governor’s agenda.

It’s absolutely frightening. Virginia just took a big step closer to becoming Florida.

Common sense is frightening to some people?

Have you read the policy? It is ridiculous! Not only does it stipulate that schools cannot call students by an alternative name or nickname unless the parent(s) approve it IN WRITING, it also says parents have to approve, IN WRITING, any nicknames kids choose to use.

So you'll have to approve if Jennifer wants to go by Jenny at school, if Hye Min wants to be called Hazel at school, or Mary Elizabeth wants to be called Mary Beth.

Jenny and Mary Beth are commonly associated with Jennifer and Elizabeth, so those won’t need permissions.

I do agree though that it will get confusing and is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bathroom use --

FCPS: Ensures students can use the locker room or restroom that aligns with their gender identity and forbids forcing them to use only a private area, single-occupancy accommodation, or other single-use facility.

New Model: On bathroom use, the policy requires students to use school bathrooms and locker rooms matching the sex they were assigned at birth, unless federal law requires otherwise. In addition, overnight travel in hotels, locker rooms, and other intimate spaces for school activities must be based on biological sex, according to the guidance.

Reid: I want to be clear that FCPS remains committed to an inclusive and affirming learning environment for each and every student and staff member including those who are transgender or gender expansive. We believe our current FCPS policies are consistent with federal and state anti-discrimination laws.

This is what I'm worried about for my childrens' transgender friends. I firmly believe transgender youth should be allowed to use the bathroom and locker room of their choice. Transgender children/youth who have been using facilities aligned to their preferred gender should get to continue doing so.

I care less about the request for a name change being told to parents.

Our high school has had boys just walking into girls bathrooms. When the girls complained, they are told the admins hands are tied because of fcps policy that boys cannot be questioned or gatekeeped from accessing girls bathrooms and locker rooms, even if the boy does not publicly identify as transgender.

Most reasonable people will support Youngkin on this.