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Anonymous wrote:The amount of hate and bigotry on this thread is very saddening and alarming. A little empathy and compassion go a long way, especially when children are involved.

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Bigots are increasingly emboldened by the right.

I have empathy and compassion for the transgender kids. I also have empathy and compassion for girls in girls' sports and bathrooms.

Maybe within your own frame--probably "those poor lost souls" rather than "people with knowledge of themselves."

Please justify trans girls in girls' sports. It makes no sense. But, you call people against it "bigots."

1) I didn't call anyone a bigot--I was responding to the pp.
2) They said "I have empathy and compassion" and I was responding to that.

What literally is the percentage of trans girls in girls' sports? Out of all the girls playing, what percentage are trans girls? I would guess less than 1/10th of 1%. Is it really worth making this big of a deal about?

Yes, as they may be in the locker room with biological girls.

So you are freaking out because out of the less than 1/10 of 1% there maybe, just maybe could possibly be one that goes into a locker room at some point--likely changing in a private bathroom stall like most of the other kids do. I can pretty much assure you that even in the 1/10000th chance that happens, the kid isn't going to be getting naked in front of other kids. I don't think my kids have fully changed/showered in front of any peers/or had anyone change in front of them despite 10 years of playing three different sports including swimming-- and they are not transgender--it just isn't the norm any more.
I wonder how you will react when your kid goes to college where there are co-ed communal bathrooms.

I just think there are so many far, far more important things to be spending time/energy on.

Colleges have single sex bathrooms.. what college did you go to that didn’t?!

UVA

So you are not a parent and are just a brand new, current college student.

That explains a lot of these posts.

No, I went to UVA in the 1990s. They had co-ed bathrooms in dorms back then. I have 3 kids: MS, HS, and college-aged kids. You're just very out of touch.

I also went to UVA in the 1990s, love to know which dorms had co-ed bathrooms. Sounds like total BS.

For first year, I think it was Alderman Road--for the hall bathrooms the floors were arranged by gender, but you could use any floor bathroom you wanted. There was no designation of male or female on the bathroom, and it was commonly used by whoever needed it. It was no big deal. I remember being a little surprised when I first saw a guy in the bathroom, but got used to it very quick. Not sexualized at all.

The floors were organized by gender which means the bathroom for the women’s floor was for women. You are so full of crap.

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I'm a little late to the game but what happens if a boy decides one day that he thinks he is a girl, let's say he is 15 for arguments sake, does this mean the very next day he can just waltz on in on girls changing while he is exploring his new identity? What will the criteria be to determine which kids get to use the opposite gender bathroom? How long will they have had to be in their new gender and how close to the chosen gender do they have to look in order to qualify for the chosen changing room/bathroom?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a little late to the game but what happens if a boy decides one day that he thinks he is a girl, let's say he is 15 for arguments sake, does this mean the very next day he can just waltz on in on girls changing while he is exploring his new identity? What will the criteria be to determine which kids get to use the opposite gender bathroom? How long will they have had to be in their new gender and how close to the chosen gender do they have to look in order to qualify for the chosen changing room/bathroom?

I've been asking this for some time. Immature middle school boys could really "work" this.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a little late to the game but what happens if a boy decides one day that he thinks he is a girl, let's say he is 15 for arguments sake, does this mean the very next day he can just waltz on in on girls changing while he is exploring his new identity? What will the criteria be to determine which kids get to use the opposite gender bathroom? How long will they have had to be in their new gender and how close to the chosen gender do they have to look in order to qualify for the chosen changing room/bathroom?

Something like this?
https://reduxx.info/women-file-lawsuit-against-university-of-wyoming-sorority-over-admission-of-trans-identified-male-who-watches-them-undress/

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a little late to the game but what happens if a boy decides one day that he thinks he is a girl, let's say he is 15 for arguments sake, does this mean the very next day he can just waltz on in on girls changing while he is exploring his new identity? What will the criteria be to determine which kids get to use the opposite gender bathroom? How long will they have had to be in their new gender and how close to the chosen gender do they have to look in order to qualify for the chosen changing room/bathroom?

Yes.

It is currently happening at my l9cal fcps, including boys who just felt like a girl when he wanted to hang out in the bathroom.

There is zero gatekeeping to protect girls.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a little late to the game but what happens if a boy decides one day that he thinks he is a girl, let's say he is 15 for arguments sake, does this mean the very next day he can just waltz on in on girls changing while he is exploring his new identity? What will the criteria be to determine which kids get to use the opposite gender bathroom? How long will they have had to be in their new gender and how close to the chosen gender do they have to look in order to qualify for the chosen changing room/bathroom?

Yes.

It is currently happening at my l9cal fcps, including boys who just felt like a girl when he wanted to hang out in the bathroom.

There is zero gatekeeping to protect girls.

Madness. Is this middle or high school?

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of hate and bigotry on this thread is very saddening and alarming. A little empathy and compassion go a long way, especially when children are involved.

+1

Bigots are increasingly emboldened by the right.

I have empathy and compassion for the transgender kids. I also have empathy and compassion for girls in girls' sports and bathrooms.

Maybe within your own frame--probably "those poor lost souls" rather than "people with knowledge of themselves."

Please justify trans girls in girls' sports. It makes no sense. But, you call people against it "bigots."

1) I didn't call anyone a bigot--I was responding to the pp.
2) They said "I have empathy and compassion" and I was responding to that.

What literally is the percentage of trans girls in girls' sports? Out of all the girls playing, what percentage are trans girls? I would guess less than 1/10th of 1%. Is it really worth making this big of a deal about?

Yes, as they may be in the locker room with biological girls.

So you are freaking out because out of the less than 1/10 of 1% there maybe, just maybe could possibly be one that goes into a locker room at some point--likely changing in a private bathroom stall like most of the other kids do. I can pretty much assure you that even in the 1/10000th chance that happens, the kid isn't going to be getting naked in front of other kids. I don't think my kids have fully changed/showered in front of any peers/or had anyone change in front of them despite 10 years of playing three different sports including swimming-- and they are not transgender--it just isn't the norm any more.
I wonder how you will react when your kid goes to college where there are co-ed communal bathrooms.

I just think there are so many far, far more important things to be spending time/energy on.

Colleges have single sex bathrooms.. what college did you go to that didn’t?!

UVA

So you are not a parent and are just a brand new, current college student.

That explains a lot of these posts.

No, I went to UVA in the 1990s. They had co-ed bathrooms in dorms back then. I have 3 kids: MS, HS, and college-aged kids. You're just very out of touch.

I also went to UVA in the 1990s, love to know which dorms had co-ed bathrooms. Sounds like total BS.

For first year, I think it was Alderman Road--for the hall bathrooms the floors were arranged by gender, but you could use any floor bathroom you wanted. There was no designation of male or female on the bathroom, and it was commonly used by whoever needed it. It was no big deal. I remember being a little surprised when I first saw a guy in the bathroom, but got used to it very quick. Not sexualized at all.

The floors were organized by gender which means the bathroom for the women’s floor was for women. You are so full of crap.

Yep, the "Alderman Road" dorms were suites with their own bathrooms separated by gender. And nobody called them the Alderman Road dorms, they were the New Dorms.

The Old Dorms were gender separated by floor.

Nothing in this story adds up.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of hate and bigotry on this thread is very saddening and alarming. A little empathy and compassion go a long way, especially when children are involved.

+1

Bigots are increasingly emboldened by the right.

I have empathy and compassion for the transgender kids. I also have empathy and compassion for girls in girls' sports and bathrooms.

Maybe within your own frame--probably "those poor lost souls" rather than "people with knowledge of themselves."

Please justify trans girls in girls' sports. It makes no sense. But, you call people against it "bigots."

1) I didn't call anyone a bigot--I was responding to the pp.
2) They said "I have empathy and compassion" and I was responding to that.

What literally is the percentage of trans girls in girls' sports? Out of all the girls playing, what percentage are trans girls? I would guess less than 1/10th of 1%. Is it really worth making this big of a deal about?

Yes, as they may be in the locker room with biological girls.

So you are freaking out because out of the less than 1/10 of 1% there maybe, just maybe could possibly be one that goes into a locker room at some point--likely changing in a private bathroom stall like most of the other kids do. I can pretty much assure you that even in the 1/10000th chance that happens, the kid isn't going to be getting naked in front of other kids. I don't think my kids have fully changed/showered in front of any peers/or had anyone change in front of them despite 10 years of playing three different sports including swimming-- and they are not transgender--it just isn't the norm any more.
I wonder how you will react when your kid goes to college where there are co-ed communal bathrooms.

I just think there are so many far, far more important things to be spending time/energy on.

Colleges have single sex bathrooms.. what college did you go to that didn’t?!

UVA

So you are not a parent and are just a brand new, current college student.

That explains a lot of these posts.

No, I went to UVA in the 1990s. They had co-ed bathrooms in dorms back then. I have 3 kids: MS, HS, and college-aged kids. You're just very out of touch.

I also went to UVA in the 1990s, love to know which dorms had co-ed bathrooms. Sounds like total BS.

For first year, I think it was Alderman Road--for the hall bathrooms the floors were arranged by gender, but you could use any floor bathroom you wanted. There was no designation of male or female on the bathroom, and it was commonly used by whoever needed it. It was no big deal. I remember being a little surprised when I first saw a guy in the bathroom, but got used to it very quick. Not sexualized at all.

The floors were organized by gender which means the bathroom for the women’s floor was for women. You are so full of crap.

Yep, the "Alderman Road" dorms were suites with their own bathrooms separated by gender. And nobody called them the Alderman Road dorms, they were the New Dorms.

The Old Dorms were gender separated by floor.

Nothing in this story adds up.

It only adds up if PP is trying to make it an example of "no big deal" to shower with the opposite sex.

[Anonymous]

The 2023 Model Policies don’t limit themselves to bathrooms and lockers. K-12 students participate in school sponsored overnight trips, in which students, staff, and chaperones can share private spaces such as bedrooms, baths, and in some instances beds. Schools currently have no obligation to inform all families involved if a person (student or adult) who identifies as transgender will be sharing these accommodations with the group.

The reason why the 2023 Model Policies guide schools on accommodating transgender students by having the parents (the only one legally allowed to do so) formalizing such identity with the school, is to provide the transgender student with proper accommodations that may involve being included in the accommodations previously mentioned. This is also guiding those who are “exploring whether they are transgender, or not” to use the facilities that correspond with their biological sex until they can formalize their change of identity status, at the same time that protect the rest of the students (particularly girls) from those males who may hide under the flexibility the 2021 (old policy) provides to violate women’s privacy and even commit crimes against them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 2023 Model Policies don’t limit themselves to bathrooms and lockers. K-12 students participate in school sponsored overnight trips, in which students, staff, and chaperones can share private spaces such as bedrooms, baths, and in some instances beds. Schools currently have no obligation to inform all families involved if a person (student or adult) who identifies as transgender will be sharing these accommodations with the group.

The reason why the 2023 Model Policies guide schools on accommodating transgender students by having the parents (the only one legally allowed to do so) formalizing such identity with the school, is to provide the transgender student with proper accommodations that may involve being included in the accommodations previously mentioned. This is also guiding those who are “exploring whether they are transgender, or not” to use the facilities that correspond with their biological sex until they can formalize their change of identity status, at the same time that protect the rest of the students (particularly girls) from those males who may hide under the flexibility the 2021 (old policy) provides to violate women’s privacy and even commit crimes against them.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2023 Model Policies don’t limit themselves to bathrooms and lockers. K-12 students participate in school sponsored overnight trips, in which students, staff, and chaperones can share private spaces such as bedrooms, baths, and in some instances beds. Schools currently have no obligation to inform all families involved if a person (student or adult) who identifies as transgender will be sharing these accommodations with the group.

The reason why the 2023 Model Policies guide schools on accommodating transgender students by having the parents (the only one legally allowed to do so) formalizing such identity with the school, is to provide the transgender student with proper accommodations that may involve being included in the accommodations previously mentioned. This is also guiding those who are “exploring whether they are transgender, or not” to use the facilities that correspond with their biological sex until they can formalize their change of identity status, at the same time that protect the rest of the students (particularly girls) from those males who may hide under the flexibility the 2021 (old policy) provides to violate women’s privacy and even commit crimes against them.

This makes a lot of sense. It protects students of all identities while also keeping families informed.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of hate and bigotry on this thread is very saddening and alarming. A little empathy and compassion go a long way, especially when children are involved.

+1

Bigots are increasingly emboldened by the right.

I have empathy and compassion for the transgender kids. I also have empathy and compassion for girls in girls' sports and bathrooms.

Maybe within your own frame--probably "those poor lost souls" rather than "people with knowledge of themselves."

Please justify trans girls in girls' sports. It makes no sense. But, you call people against it "bigots."

1) I didn't call anyone a bigot--I was responding to the pp.
2) They said "I have empathy and compassion" and I was responding to that.

What literally is the percentage of trans girls in girls' sports? Out of all the girls playing, what percentage are trans girls? I would guess less than 1/10th of 1%. Is it really worth making this big of a deal about?

Yes, as they may be in the locker room with biological girls.

So you are freaking out because out of the less than 1/10 of 1% there maybe, just maybe could possibly be one that goes into a locker room at some point--likely changing in a private bathroom stall like most of the other kids do. I can pretty much assure you that even in the 1/10000th chance that happens, the kid isn't going to be getting naked in front of other kids. I don't think my kids have fully changed/showered in front of any peers/or had anyone change in front of them despite 10 years of playing three different sports including swimming-- and they are not transgender--it just isn't the norm any more.
I wonder how you will react when your kid goes to college where there are co-ed communal bathrooms.

I just think there are so many far, far more important things to be spending time/energy on.

Colleges have single sex bathrooms.. what college did you go to that didn’t?!

UVA

So you are not a parent and are just a brand new, current college student.

That explains a lot of these posts.

No, I went to UVA in the 1990s. They had co-ed bathrooms in dorms back then. I have 3 kids: MS, HS, and college-aged kids. You're just very out of touch.

I also went to UVA in the 1990s, love to know which dorms had co-ed bathrooms. Sounds like total BS.

For first year, I think it was Alderman Road--for the hall bathrooms the floors were arranged by gender, but you could use any floor bathroom you wanted. There was no designation of male or female on the bathroom, and it was commonly used by whoever needed it. It was no big deal. I remember being a little surprised when I first saw a guy in the bathroom, but got used to it very quick. Not sexualized at all.

The floors were organized by gender which means the bathroom for the women’s floor was for women. You are so full of crap.

And yet the bathrooms were regularly used by both genders. And my sister's college at the same time had full co-ed bathrooms. We talked about it at the time with each other. I swear people are just forgetting what their life was like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a little late to the game but what happens if a boy decides one day that he thinks he is a girl, let's say he is 15 for arguments sake, does this mean the very next day he can just waltz on in on girls changing while he is exploring his new identity? What will the criteria be to determine which kids get to use the opposite gender bathroom? How long will they have had to be in their new gender and how close to the chosen gender do they have to look in order to qualify for the chosen changing room/bathroom?

I've been asking this for some time. Immature middle school boys could really "work" this.

This is not how it works.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of hate and bigotry on this thread is very saddening and alarming. A little empathy and compassion go a long way, especially when children are involved.

+1

Bigots are increasingly emboldened by the right.

I have empathy and compassion for the transgender kids. I also have empathy and compassion for girls in girls' sports and bathrooms.

Maybe within your own frame--probably "those poor lost souls" rather than "people with knowledge of themselves."

Please justify trans girls in girls' sports. It makes no sense. But, you call people against it "bigots."

1) I didn't call anyone a bigot--I was responding to the pp.
2) They said "I have empathy and compassion" and I was responding to that.

What literally is the percentage of trans girls in girls' sports? Out of all the girls playing, what percentage are trans girls? I would guess less than 1/10th of 1%. Is it really worth making this big of a deal about?

Yes, as they may be in the locker room with biological girls.

So you are freaking out because out of the less than 1/10 of 1% there maybe, just maybe could possibly be one that goes into a locker room at some point--likely changing in a private bathroom stall like most of the other kids do. I can pretty much assure you that even in the 1/10000th chance that happens, the kid isn't going to be getting naked in front of other kids. I don't think my kids have fully changed/showered in front of any peers/or had anyone change in front of them despite 10 years of playing three different sports including swimming-- and they are not transgender--it just isn't the norm any more.
I wonder how you will react when your kid goes to college where there are co-ed communal bathrooms.

I just think there are so many far, far more important things to be spending time/energy on.

Colleges have single sex bathrooms.. what college did you go to that didn’t?!

UVA

So you are not a parent and are just a brand new, current college student.

That explains a lot of these posts.

No, I went to UVA in the 1990s. They had co-ed bathrooms in dorms back then. I have 3 kids: MS, HS, and college-aged kids. You're just very out of touch.

I also went to UVA in the 1990s, love to know which dorms had co-ed bathrooms. Sounds like total BS.

For first year, I think it was Alderman Road--for the hall bathrooms the floors were arranged by gender, but you could use any floor bathroom you wanted. There was no designation of male or female on the bathroom, and it was commonly used by whoever needed it. It was no big deal. I remember being a little surprised when I first saw a guy in the bathroom, but got used to it very quick. Not sexualized at all.

The floors were organized by gender which means the bathroom for the women’s floor was for women. You are so full of crap.

Yep, the "Alderman Road" dorms were suites with their own bathrooms separated by gender. And nobody called them the Alderman Road dorms, they were the New Dorms.

The Old Dorms were gender separated by floor.

Nothing in this story adds up.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of hate and bigotry on this thread is very saddening and alarming. A little empathy and compassion go a long way, especially when children are involved.

+1

Bigots are increasingly emboldened by the right.

I have empathy and compassion for the transgender kids. I also have empathy and compassion for girls in girls' sports and bathrooms.

Maybe within your own frame--probably "those poor lost souls" rather than "people with knowledge of themselves."

Please justify trans girls in girls' sports. It makes no sense. But, you call people against it "bigots."

1) I didn't call anyone a bigot--I was responding to the pp.
2) They said "I have empathy and compassion" and I was responding to that.

What literally is the percentage of trans girls in girls' sports? Out of all the girls playing, what percentage are trans girls? I would guess less than 1/10th of 1%. Is it really worth making this big of a deal about?

Yes, as they may be in the locker room with biological girls.

So you are freaking out because out of the less than 1/10 of 1% there maybe, just maybe could possibly be one that goes into a locker room at some point--likely changing in a private bathroom stall like most of the other kids do. I can pretty much assure you that even in the 1/10000th chance that happens, the kid isn't going to be getting naked in front of other kids. I don't think my kids have fully changed/showered in front of any peers/or had anyone change in front of them despite 10 years of playing three different sports including swimming-- and they are not transgender--it just isn't the norm any more.
I wonder how you will react when your kid goes to college where there are co-ed communal bathrooms.

I just think there are so many far, far more important things to be spending time/energy on.

Colleges have single sex bathrooms.. what college did you go to that didn’t?!

UVA

So you are not a parent and are just a brand new, current college student.

That explains a lot of these posts.

No, I went to UVA in the 1990s. They had co-ed bathrooms in dorms back then. I have 3 kids: MS, HS, and college-aged kids. You're just very out of touch.

I also went to UVA in the 1990s, love to know which dorms had co-ed bathrooms. Sounds like total BS.

For first year, I think it was Alderman Road--for the hall bathrooms the floors were arranged by gender, but you could use any floor bathroom you wanted. There was no designation of male or female on the bathroom, and it was commonly used by whoever needed it. It was no big deal. I remember being a little surprised when I first saw a guy in the bathroom, but got used to it very quick. Not sexualized at all.

The floors were organized by gender which means the bathroom for the women’s floor was for women. You are so full of crap.

And yet the bathrooms were regularly used by both genders. And my sister's college at the same time had full co-ed bathrooms. We talked about it at the time with each other. I swear people are just forgetting what their life was like.

That’s not a designated coed bathroom. That’s people just not following the rules. There were no coed bathrooms as the floor bathrooms had toilets and showers. You are a complete liar.