Lower cost of living in maryland?

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Anonymous wrote:Your problem is not going to be the churches, it’s just going to be isolation and lack of cultural resources.

To live happily in rural areas, you need something that can create a sense of community and engagement. It could be church, it could be farming, it could be horses or crazy right wing politics or it could be raising show chickens or being those parents for travel softball or something. If you don’t do any of those things and you’re just out there with a bigger house and yard and now without the restaurants and the yoga studio and whatever you do now, your spouse is DEFINITELY going to hate it and you will probably hate it too.

I get what you're saying, but these posts crack me up when it comes after 3-4 posters have recommended Frederick.

You can get a BEAUTIFUL house for 1 million, within a 10-15 minute drive to Frederick and experience restaurants, theater, art, music, etc. I hesitate to even post this because its such a gem of a small city. We've lived here for a few years now and since moving up here have not felt a need AT ALL to head into DC or its immediate surrounding area for any "culture"

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Anonymous wrote:OP Here. I think you all are missing the "without a large church community" point. As in, I don't want a republican area. Frederick and Allegheny don't fit those criteria, although Frederick has maybe changed to become more liberal.

Where is HoCo is a good place to look? I have young kids and my husband doesn't want to lift them up from their current house.

Hmm - I responded about Severna Park. It's "light blue" here - lots of Republicans but the area is becoming gradually bluer mainly because of people moving here from cities. SP is not diverse though that is also very slowly changing...like schools are 90% white when they used to be 98% white, sigh. Annapolis is more strongly Dem, but the schools aren't as highly rated, but that's because the schools are more economically diverse...still great schools though and any strong student will do well. In terms of churchiness, yes, there are churches here and people go to them but it doesn't dominate people's lives. We don't go to church and can hardly remember any neighbors talking about it...I'd guess up to half my neighbors don't go either and/or don't belong to one.

Agree it does not feel churchy here in Severna Park. They do provide good and more reasonably priced pre school options though which is nice. It is a nice community and proximity to Baltimore, Annapolis, Crofton, and relatively close to DC is huge for us and we always have something to do.

Anne Arundel county is trying to ban pride flags in schools. That would be too Republican for me, but I'm not OP.

Seriously? I'm renting in DC and now that my kids are in college, I'm itching to move out of the city and into a little cottage somewhere close enough to DC so I can come in once a week or so for work, but far enough so I can have a little space. I can't afford DC prices so I am looking at AA county, but there is no way I can live in a county where they are going down the path of codifying intolerance and bigotry. UGH

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North Baltimore - Roland Park, Homeland, Ruxton

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Cumberland MD

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Anonymous wrote:OP Here. I think you all are missing the "without a large church community" point. As in, I don't want a republican area. Frederick and Allegheny don't fit those criteria, although Frederick has maybe changed to become more liberal.

Where is HoCo is a good place to look? I have young kids and my husband doesn't want to lift them up from their current house.

Hmm - I responded about Severna Park. It's "light blue" here - lots of Republicans but the area is becoming gradually bluer mainly because of people moving here from cities. SP is not diverse though that is also very slowly changing...like schools are 90% white when they used to be 98% white, sigh. Annapolis is more strongly Dem, but the schools aren't as highly rated, but that's because the schools are more economically diverse...still great schools though and any strong student will do well. In terms of churchiness, yes, there are churches here and people go to them but it doesn't dominate people's lives. We don't go to church and can hardly remember any neighbors talking about it...I'd guess up to half my neighbors don't go either and/or don't belong to one.

Agree it does not feel churchy here in Severna Park. They do provide good and more reasonably priced pre school options though which is nice. It is a nice community and proximity to Baltimore, Annapolis, Crofton, and relatively close to DC is huge for us and we always have something to do.

Anne Arundel county is trying to ban pride flags in schools. That would be too Republican for me, but I'm not OP.

Seriously? I'm renting in DC and now that my kids are in college, I'm itching to move out of the city and into a little cottage somewhere close enough to DC so I can come in once a week or so for work, but far enough so I can have a little space. I can't afford DC prices so I am looking at AA county, but there is no way I can live in a county where they are going down the path of codifying intolerance and bigotry. UGH

Got to protect the rights of gay kindergarten students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:North Baltimore - Roland Park, Homeland, Ruxton

Property taxes in Baltimore City are astronomical.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Here. I think you all are missing the "without a large church community" point. As in, I don't want a republican area. Frederick and Allegheny don't fit those criteria, although Frederick has maybe changed to become more liberal.

Where is HoCo is a good place to look? I have young kids and my husband doesn't want to lift them up from their current house.

Hmm - I responded about Severna Park. It's "light blue" here - lots of Republicans but the area is becoming gradually bluer mainly because of people moving here from cities. SP is not diverse though that is also very slowly changing...like schools are 90% white when they used to be 98% white, sigh. Annapolis is more strongly Dem, but the schools aren't as highly rated, but that's because the schools are more economically diverse...still great schools though and any strong student will do well. In terms of churchiness, yes, there are churches here and people go to them but it doesn't dominate people's lives. We don't go to church and can hardly remember any neighbors talking about it...I'd guess up to half my neighbors don't go either and/or don't belong to one.

Agree it does not feel churchy here in Severna Park. They do provide good and more reasonably priced pre school options though which is nice. It is a nice community and proximity to Baltimore, Annapolis, Crofton, and relatively close to DC is huge for us and we always have something to do.

Anne Arundel county is trying to ban pride flags in schools. That would be too Republican for me, but I'm not OP.

Seriously? I'm renting in DC and now that my kids are in college, I'm itching to move out of the city and into a little cottage somewhere close enough to DC so I can come in once a week or so for work, but far enough so I can have a little space. I can't afford DC prices so I am looking at AA county, but there is no way I can live in a county where they are going down the path of codifying intolerance and bigotry. UGH

Severna Park poster here. I think the tide is slowly changing but it is definitely not as liberal as MoCo. We cannot afford MoCo or to continue to stay in DC, like even close, so this was our best option for schools and proximity to DC. We’ve found it takes a bit more effort to find more like minded folks but it isn’t a completely lost cause.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Here. I think you all are missing the "without a large church community" point. As in, I don't want a republican area. Frederick and Allegheny don't fit those criteria, although Frederick has maybe changed to become more liberal.

Where is HoCo is a good place to look? I have young kids and my husband doesn't want to lift them up from their current house.

Hmm - I responded about Severna Park. It's "light blue" here - lots of Republicans but the area is becoming gradually bluer mainly because of people moving here from cities. SP is not diverse though that is also very slowly changing...like schools are 90% white when they used to be 98% white, sigh. Annapolis is more strongly Dem, but the schools aren't as highly rated, but that's because the schools are more economically diverse...still great schools though and any strong student will do well. In terms of churchiness, yes, there are churches here and people go to them but it doesn't dominate people's lives. We don't go to church and can hardly remember any neighbors talking about it...I'd guess up to half my neighbors don't go either and/or don't belong to one.

Agree it does not feel churchy here in Severna Park. They do provide good and more reasonably priced pre school options though which is nice. It is a nice community and proximity to Baltimore, Annapolis, Crofton, and relatively close to DC is huge for us and we always have something to do.

Anne Arundel county is trying to ban pride flags in schools. That would be too Republican for me, but I'm not OP.

Seriously? I'm renting in DC and now that my kids are in college, I'm itching to move out of the city and into a little cottage somewhere close enough to DC so I can come in once a week or so for work, but far enough so I can have a little space. I can't afford DC prices so I am looking at AA county, but there is no way I can live in a county where they are going down the path of codifying intolerance and bigotry. UGH

There will always be extremists who want to ban these things. Doesn't mean it's common thought.

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https://smartasset.com/taxes/maryland-property-tax-calculator#:

The houses in Frederick cost less, but you pay more in real estate taxes.

"Overall, Frederick County has the one of the highest property tax rates of any county in Maryland. The county’s average effective tax rate is 1.18%. In some cities, the total rate will be much higher than that. For example, in the city of Frederick, the total listed rate is $1.060 per $100 of assessed value."

I know, because my family members live in a rural area of VA and pay much higher property taxes than we do in Montgomery County MD. People here just like to complain.

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I live in Frederick and don’t know a single person who goes to church. And they vote democrat even if there are far better candidates (to the point of being ridiculous at times). Not sure what decade you are looking at.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Here. I think you all are missing the "without a large church community" point. As in, I don't want a republican area. Frederick and Allegheny don't fit those criteria, although Frederick has maybe changed to become more liberal.

Where is HoCo is a good place to look? I have young kids and my husband doesn't want to lift them up from their current house.

Hmm - I responded about Severna Park. It's "light blue" here - lots of Republicans but the area is becoming gradually bluer mainly because of people moving here from cities. SP is not diverse though that is also very slowly changing...like schools are 90% white when they used to be 98% white, sigh. Annapolis is more strongly Dem, but the schools aren't as highly rated, but that's because the schools are more economically diverse...still great schools though and any strong student will do well. In terms of churchiness, yes, there are churches here and people go to them but it doesn't dominate people's lives. We don't go to church and can hardly remember any neighbors talking about it...I'd guess up to half my neighbors don't go either and/or don't belong to one.

Agree it does not feel churchy here in Severna Park. They do provide good and more reasonably priced pre school options though which is nice. It is a nice community and proximity to Baltimore, Annapolis, Crofton, and relatively close to DC is huge for us and we always have something to do.

Anne Arundel county is trying to ban pride flags in schools. That would be too Republican for me, but I'm not OP.

Seriously? I'm renting in DC and now that my kids are in college, I'm itching to move out of the city and into a little cottage somewhere close enough to DC so I can come in once a week or so for work, but far enough so I can have a little space. I can't afford DC prices so I am looking at AA county, but there is no way I can live in a county where they are going down the path of codifying intolerance and bigotry. UGH

There will always be extremists who want to ban these things. Doesn't mean it's common thought.

AA Co Board voted against the pride flag ban 6-2.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Frederick and don’t know a single person who goes to church. And they vote democrat even if there are far better candidates (to the point of being ridiculous at times). Not sure what decade you are looking at.

Doesn't really matter either way if the taxes on Frederick are higher than MoCo.

It doesn't look like OP or most pps on this board have done some basic internet research on real estate tax rates.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Frederick and don’t know a single person who goes to church. And they vote democrat even if there are far better candidates (to the point of being ridiculous at times). Not sure what decade you are looking at.

Doesn't really matter either way if the taxes on Frederick are higher than MoCo.

It doesn't look like OP or most pps on this board have done some basic internet research on real estate tax rates.

True, but that's a difference of less than 2k per year in property tax on a 1 million dollar property

But that would be offset by the savings in local income tax (https://www.marylandtaxes.gov/individual/income/tax-info/tax-rates.php), which is 8 percent higher in MoCo (.0320 vs .0296)

I know my take home pay increased when I moved from MoCo to FredCo.

Probably need around 250k in HHI to offset the property tax increase on a 1 million dollar home

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Anonymous wrote:Your problem is not going to be the churches, it’s just going to be isolation and lack of cultural resources.

To live happily in rural areas, you need something that can create a sense of community and engagement. It could be church, it could be farming, it could be horses or crazy right wing politics or it could be raising show chickens or being those parents for travel softball or something. If you don’t do any of those things and you’re just out there with a bigger house and yard and now without the restaurants and the yoga studio and whatever you do now, your spouse is DEFINITELY going to hate it and you will probably hate it too.

I get what you're saying, but these posts crack me up when it comes after 3-4 posters have recommended Frederick.

You can get a BEAUTIFUL house for 1 million, within a 10-15 minute drive to Frederick and experience restaurants, theater, art, music, etc. I hesitate to even post this because its such a gem of a small city. We've lived here for a few years now and since moving up here have not felt a need AT ALL to head into DC or its immediate surrounding area for any "culture"

I’m this “culture” poster and I agree that Frederick is great, and might be a good option for the OP.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Here. I think you all are missing the "without a large church community" point. As in, I don't want a republican area. Frederick and Allegheny don't fit those criteria, although Frederick has maybe changed to become more liberal.

Where is HoCo is a good place to look? I have young kids and my husband doesn't want to lift them up from their current house.

Hmm - I responded about Severna Park. It's "light blue" here - lots of Republicans but the area is becoming gradually bluer mainly because of people moving here from cities. SP is not diverse though that is also very slowly changing...like schools are 90% white when they used to be 98% white, sigh. Annapolis is more strongly Dem, but the schools aren't as highly rated, but that's because the schools are more economically diverse...still great schools though and any strong student will do well. In terms of churchiness, yes, there are churches here and people go to them but it doesn't dominate people's lives. We don't go to church and can hardly remember any neighbors talking about it...I'd guess up to half my neighbors don't go either and/or don't belong to one.

Agree it does not feel churchy here in Severna Park. They do provide good and more reasonably priced pre school options though which is nice. It is a nice community and proximity to Baltimore, Annapolis, Crofton, and relatively close to DC is huge for us and we always have something to do.

Anne Arundel county is trying to ban pride flags in schools. That would be too Republican for me, but I'm not OP.

Seriously? I'm renting in DC and now that my kids are in college, I'm itching to move out of the city and into a little cottage somewhere close enough to DC so I can come in once a week or so for work, but far enough so I can have a little space. I can't afford DC prices so I am looking at AA county, but there is no way I can live in a county where they are going down the path of codifying intolerance and bigotry. UGH

Got to protect the rights of gay kindergarten students

Literally yes.