SAT Scores

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Per their website, VTech has an average engineering SAT of 1356.

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UMCP engineering test scores for last year for the 25/75 percentiles were 1403/1520 SAT and 32/35 ACT.

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Just google “SAT <school> engineering”.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing about super high SAT scores. When I was in school in the late 90s a food score was over 1200 and anything over 1400 was very high. Now it seems like 1200 is typical. I had a 3.2 unweighted GPA (40th percentile of class), no APs, and a 1240 SAT score and I got easily into every school I applied and offered merit scholarships at some of them. I only applied where I thought I’d get in. The programs were equal to VA Tech, where I was accepted for Mechanical Engineering but went to another school.

My daughter is a sophomore and has a 4.7 weighted GPA (4.0 unweighted), no APs, hasn’t taken the SAT yet. I feel like she’s far better positioned than I was, but realize it’s harder right now to get into many programs. What score would she need to get into UMCP or VA Tech for engineering?

She's not getting into either of those schools for engineering with no APs.

She’s a sophomore. With a 4.7 weighted, surely she’s on track for APs.

She is pretty significantly learning disabled. APs are unsupported classes so she opts to not take them. Her GPA is higher than most kids who are in them. She works very hard. Lots of extracurricular activities.

Engineering is likely not a good fit as a major, and especially not at a large state flagship.

I have a degree in computer science and have worked with engineers as my user base and coworkers for most of my career. She’s very well suited to it. She’s also going to be taking a 2 year part-time engineering program through MCPS her junior and senior year and took Engineering already in high school and was regularly asked by her teacher to help other students. I know what is good for her. I am not asking if that’s a good choice of career. I am only asking about SAT scores. You should know that many many engineers are learning disabled.

She isn’t getting into top engineering schools without AP classes.

VATech is not a top tier school.

It’s ranked 16th in the country for undergraduate engineering. So in that discipline, it is.

It’s a good school, but no one considers it when you say “Top School”. Again. I worked 20 years in this field. UMCP maybe. Not VA Tech. It’s a great program and very well respected but it’s not top tier.

Point is that it’s selective & you need STEM AP classes with As to get in.

Well, she will apply and I’ll just tell her not to get her hopes up. I had thought VATech may be easier to get in than UMCP but knew it would be more difficult than some other schools she’s interested in applying. She wants to apply to GATech and I think that’s just not a realistic possibility but she wants to anyway. I’m hoping the engineering program will help since she will be able to show aptitude in the field in a way that APs don’t measure. She probably prefers JMU or RPI anyway, so maybe it doesn’t matter.

Georgia Tech will also want to see APs

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Anonymous wrote:UMCP engineering test scores for last year for the 25/75 percentiles were 1403/1520 SAT and 32/35 ACT.

Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:Just google “SAT <school> engineering”.

Thanks. I will try that.

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Anonymous wrote:For Purdue engineering, per their webpage, the average ACT was 32 and the average SAT was 1444 for the Fall 2022 class.

I posted the above. I also meant to mention that your daughter may be more competitive at a school away from this area. The competition here in the DMV is very tough and aggressive, and colleges only take a few kids from each school for each program.

Thanks. I’m actually happy that’s she’s decided to expand her search a bit. I personally have no concern over the prestige factor. We just live in MD and so UMCP is a school that she will apply to because it’s the public program in our state. The only other is UMBC and, while I think it’s a fantastic school, I’d prefer she go somewhere with a more active on campus life. It would be nice if MD preferenced in-state students but they don’t seem to do that.

She’s even planning to apply to the SUNY that I attended (that I absolutely loved) that rarely appears on these boards but is well ranked. People in this area don’t seem to think much of the SUNY programs, which is weird to me because they’re a great value.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing about super high SAT scores. When I was in school in the late 90s a food score was over 1200 and anything over 1400 was very high. Now it seems like 1200 is typical. I had a 3.2 unweighted GPA (40th percentile of class), no APs, and a 1240 SAT score and I got easily into every school I applied and offered merit scholarships at some of them. I only applied where I thought I’d get in. The programs were equal to VA Tech, where I was accepted for Mechanical Engineering but went to another school.

My daughter is a sophomore and has a 4.7 weighted GPA (4.0 unweighted), no APs, hasn’t taken the SAT yet. I feel like she’s far better positioned than I was, but realize it’s harder right now to get into many programs. What score would she need to get into UMCP or VA Tech for engineering?

She's not getting into either of those schools for engineering with no APs.

She’s a sophomore. With a 4.7 weighted, surely she’s on track for APs.

She is pretty significantly learning disabled. APs are unsupported classes so she opts to not take them. Her GPA is higher than most kids who are in them. She works very hard. Lots of extracurricular activities.

Engineering is likely not a good fit as a major, and especially not at a large state flagship.

I have a degree in computer science and have worked with engineers as my user base and coworkers for most of my career. She’s very well suited to it. She’s also going to be taking a 2 year part-time engineering program through MCPS her junior and senior year and took Engineering already in high school and was regularly asked by her teacher to help other students. I know what is good for her. I am not asking if that’s a good choice of career. I am only asking about SAT scores. You should know that many many engineers are learning disabled.

She isn’t getting into top engineering schools without AP classes.

VATech is not a top tier school.

It’s ranked 16th in the country for undergraduate engineering. So in that discipline, it is.

It’s a good school, but no one considers it when you say “Top School”. Again. I worked 20 years in this field. UMCP maybe. Not VA Tech. It’s a great program and very well respected but it’s not top tier.

Point is that it’s selective & you need STEM AP classes with As to get in.

Well, she will apply and I’ll just tell her not to get her hopes up. I had thought VATech may be easier to get in than UMCP but knew it would be more difficult than some other schools she’s interested in applying. She wants to apply to GATech and I think that’s just not a realistic possibility but she wants to anyway. I’m hoping the engineering program will help since she will be able to show aptitude in the field in a way that APs don’t measure. She probably prefers JMU or RPI anyway, so maybe it doesn’t matter.

Georgia Tech will also want to see APs

I don’t think she has a chance at if getting in. I do recruiting there for work, which I think is why she is interested.

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Anonymous wrote:Per their website, VTech has an average engineering SAT of 1356.

Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:Other than at MIT, scores don’t matter anymore, OP.

Not really. Read through the threads and you will see the parental angst about their child's SAT/ACT scores and how to improve them.

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DS from NOVA had 1560 (800 math). This admissions cycle waitlisted at UVA and NEU. SAT doesn't have near the impact as we would have hoped.

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Anonymous wrote:DS from NOVA had 1560 (800 math). This admissions cycle waitlisted at UVA and NEU. SAT doesn't have near the impact as we would have hoped.

But that's not the complete picture. you have to give unweighted and weighted GPA, APs, ECs, hooks, etc., to reach the conclusion that "SAT doesn't have near the impact . . "

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Anonymous wrote:DS from NOVA had 1560 (800 math). This admissions cycle waitlisted at UVA and NEU. SAT doesn't have near the impact as we would have hoped.

But that's not the complete picture. you have to give unweighted and weighted GPA, APs, ECs, hooks, etc., to reach the conclusion that "SAT doesn't have near the impact . . "

No I don't and you just confirmed. DS didn't take AP Lang and Lit. I believe this decision was the primary factor in waitlist placement rather admittance. SAT score did not have the impact to offset these shortcomings as we would have hoped.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing about super high SAT scores. When I was in school in the late 90s a food score was over 1200 and anything over 1400 was very high. Now it seems like 1200 is typical. I had a 3.2 unweighted GPA (40th percentile of class), no APs, and a 1240 SAT score and I got easily into every school I applied and offered merit scholarships at some of them. I only applied where I thought I’d get in. The programs were equal to VA Tech, where I was accepted for Mechanical Engineering but went to another school.

My daughter is a sophomore and has a 4.7 weighted GPA (4.0 unweighted), no APs, hasn’t taken the SAT yet. I feel like she’s far better positioned than I was, but realize it’s harder right now to get into many programs. What score would she need to get into UMCP or VA Tech for engineering?

She's not getting into either of those schools for engineering with no APs.

She’s a sophomore. With a 4.7 weighted, surely she’s on track for APs.

Can you list every class taken that’s on the transcript and how it was weighted? I am trying to figure out how a sophomore has a 4.7 with no AP classes. Is it a school that generously weights honors classes?

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Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing about super high SAT scores. When I was in school in the late 90s a food score was over 1200 and anything over 1400 was very high. Now it seems like 1200 is typical. I had a 3.2 unweighted GPA (40th percentile of class), no APs, and a 1240 SAT score and I got easily into every school I applied and offered merit scholarships at some of them. I only applied where I thought I’d get in. The programs were equal to VA Tech, where I was accepted for Mechanical Engineering but went to another school.

My daughter is a sophomore and has a 4.7 weighted GPA (4.0 unweighted), no APs, hasn’t taken the SAT yet. I feel like she’s far better positioned than I was, but realize it’s harder right now to get into many programs. What score would she need to get into UMCP or VA Tech for engineering?

Those schools want to see, if your school offers them, at least AP Calc BC (preferably post AP math), AP Physics C & AP Chem by 12th grade at minimum for direct admit to engineering.

Most kids getting into engineering for freshman year at VT or UMCP nowadays have 1500+ SAt, those courses at absolute minimum and “most rigorous courseload” designation from their high school counselor.

How is that possible? How many kids are getting over 1500 on their SAT?

They are prepping hard