Florida new Immigration law

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

Your whole post conflates illegal migrants with legal immigrants.
And, who cares if I am on this board? So are people from NY and FL and other states.
I didn't realize it was exclusively for DC residents. And, BTW - I recently lived in the DC suburbs. Even there, I never hired people here illegally. Nor would I hire a business who had employees here illegally.

It's weird to spend time arguing on a message board that is not meant for you. Like if an athiest went to church just to argue with all of the believers. I guess it's technically allowed but it makes you seem like a bit of an ass.

DP. The Political Forum is national, not local. I mean, this is a thread about Florida, not the DMV. By your logic, every post on this thread is out of line.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

I just changed my roof last year with a local Virginian guy who has been in business for 30 years (born and raised American). My bathroom reno was done by a Ukrainian team who are here legally under U4U, great work, and very affordable European design. I pay my neighbor's high school kid to do my lawn (born and raised American), and my yard is done by my friend's retired father (born and raised American). Why not support local businesses? Americans are doing those jobs and they are not shitty jobs. Your post if very hateful toward our own workers.

how do you know the Ukrainian is here legally?

A lot of the farm workers who work in the fields are illegal immigrants. I don't see a ton of Americans wanting those jobs. And before you use the "if they paid more" argument, I'll remind you that people are already complaining about inflation and food prices. If wages go up, you should understand that the increase will be passed on to consumers. As a umc, I can afford the increase in prices. Can most Americans?

If you want to argue that execs should be paid less so workers can be paid more, I'm all for that. But that's anti-capitalism, right? Something Rs would abhor. I mean.. imagine a R wanting to interfere with businesses, and using politics as a weapon against businesses who don't agree with said politician.

*coughDisneycough*

PP here.. yes, I know.. that was the intent. I wasn't sure if the ^PP who demands all workers be legal would connect the dots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The millions of people who have recently come and will come in the next few years who are claiming asylum can work legally after one year if they haven’t had a court appearance. There is such a backlog that there are a Tun of legal recent integrantes who can lawfully work.

And there's a huge backlog because Republicans have consistently refused to allow more judges to be hired to clear the backlog, going all the way back to Obama and earlier.

Republicans complain about them being turned loose to await their hearing (which may take two years or more due to the backlog) yet haven't fixed the resource problem or changed the laws contributing to this problem.

March, 2022:

For each of the past seven fiscal years, Congress has appropriated additional money for the Department of Justice to hire more immigration judges.

Congress approved money for 55 new immigration judges to be added in Fiscal Year 2016; 10 in Fiscal 2017; 100 in Fiscal 2018; 50 in Fiscal 2019; 100 in Fiscal 2020; 100 in Fiscal 2021; and 100 in Fiscal 2022.

But as of December, there were only 576 immigration judges on board, and the backlog of immigration cases is at the highest in history.

Currently, there is enough federal money for the Executive Office of Immigration Review, the agency that is part of DOJ that oversees the U.S. immigration court system, to fund 634 immigration judges.

https://www.borderreport.com/immigration/congress-oks-money-for-more-immigration-judges-but-case-backlog-continues-to-worsen/

Of course, when you let in over 2 million migrants in 2 years, the backlog is only going to worsen.
Might that be Biden's strategy here???

[Anonymous]

This is great for our area. Lots of hard working folks will be leaving Florida and moving north.

The home health aide rates in Florida are about to skyrocket. Same with manual labor of any kind. Good luck to the “Florida has no income tax!” crowd. Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone following the new FL immigration law? I started seeing on TikTok last night, but didn't really hear anything on any other sites..


https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/desantis-immigration-bill-approved-by-florida-gop-lawmakers/

Wow it looks like a horrible law and does not address the issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The millions of people who have recently come and will come in the next few years who are claiming asylum can work legally after one year if they haven’t had a court appearance. There is such a backlog that there are a Tun of legal recent integrantes who can lawfully work.

And there's a huge backlog because Republicans have consistently refused to allow more judges to be hired to clear the backlog, going all the way back to Obama and earlier.

Republicans complain about them being turned loose to await their hearing (which may take two years or more due to the backlog) yet haven't fixed the resource problem or changed the laws contributing to this problem.

March, 2022:

For each of the past seven fiscal years, Congress has appropriated additional money for the Department of Justice to hire more immigration judges.

Congress approved money for 55 new immigration judges to be added in Fiscal Year 2016; 10 in Fiscal 2017; 100 in Fiscal 2018; 50 in Fiscal 2019; 100 in Fiscal 2020; 100 in Fiscal 2021; and 100 in Fiscal 2022.

But as of December, there were only 576 immigration judges on board, and the backlog of immigration cases is at the highest in history.

Currently, there is enough federal money for the Executive Office of Immigration Review, the agency that is part of DOJ that oversees the U.S. immigration court system, to fund 634 immigration judges.

https://www.borderreport.com/immigration/congress-oks-money-for-more-immigration-judges-but-case-backlog-continues-to-worsen/

Of course, when you let in over 2 million migrants in 2 years, the backlog is only going to worsen.
Might that be Biden's strategy here???

Wow that is not many people and historically low for the US. No wonder we have such demand for workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

dp.. you know what.. most people don't live in rural areas, and even Trump's hotels use illegal immigrant labor, as do many R owned businesses in FL.

That doesn’t make it right. Are you now using Trump, of all people, as your barometer of what is acceptable behavior. Trump uses illegal workers because he can get away with working poverty wages. Maybe he won’t be able to going forward. At least in his Florida properties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

dp.. you know what.. most people don't live in rural areas, and even Trump's hotels use illegal immigrant labor, as do many R owned businesses in FL.

That doesn’t make it right. Are you now using Trump, of all people, as your barometer of what is acceptable behavior. Trump uses illegal workers because he can get away with working poverty wages. Maybe he won’t be able to going forward. At least in his Florida properties.

Did I say it was right? I said most people don't live in rural areas where everyone knows everyone, and there are few immigrants.

My point is that large businesses like Trump hotels, construction and gardening services companies use cheap illegal immigrant labor. A home owner doesn't know who is working for the company, or the person's legal status. You can ask the company, but they would flat out lie to you about whether they use illegal immigrant labor.

You're either dumb or super naive to think that the general public should be able to tell who is here legally or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The millions of people who have recently come and will come in the next few years who are claiming asylum can work legally after one year if they haven’t had a court appearance. There is such a backlog that there are a Tun of legal recent integrantes who can lawfully work.

And there's a huge backlog because Republicans have consistently refused to allow more judges to be hired to clear the backlog, going all the way back to Obama and earlier.

Republicans complain about them being turned loose to await their hearing (which may take two years or more due to the backlog) yet haven't fixed the resource problem or changed the laws contributing to this problem.

March, 2022:

For each of the past seven fiscal years, Congress has appropriated additional money for the Department of Justice to hire more immigration judges.

Congress approved money for 55 new immigration judges to be added in Fiscal Year 2016; 10 in Fiscal 2017; 100 in Fiscal 2018; 50 in Fiscal 2019; 100 in Fiscal 2020; 100 in Fiscal 2021; and 100 in Fiscal 2022.

But as of December, there were only 576 immigration judges on board, and the backlog of immigration cases is at the highest in history.

Currently, there is enough federal money for the Executive Office of Immigration Review, the agency that is part of DOJ that oversees the U.S. immigration court system, to fund 634 immigration judges.

https://www.borderreport.com/immigration/congress-oks-money-for-more-immigration-judges-but-case-backlog-continues-to-worsen/

Of course, when you let in over 2 million migrants in 2 years, the backlog is only going to worsen.
Might that be Biden's strategy here???

Wow that is not many people and historically low for the US. No wonder we have such demand for workers.

Good grief. Do some research. The 2 million are those who entered illegally and does not include people who did things the right way and applied to come in. And it doesn’t include the over 1.3 million got aways since Biden took office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

Your whole post conflates illegal migrants with legal immigrants.
And, who cares if I am on this board? So are people from NY and FL and other states.
I didn't realize it was exclusively for DC residents. And, BTW - I recently lived in the DC suburbs. Even there, I never hired people here illegally. Nor would I hire a business who had employees here illegally.

How do you know if someone is legal or not? Did you ask for their paperwork? Did you have them complete an I-9 form?

I have lived in the DMV 25+ years. Every time I hire a contractor to do upgrades on my home, the various workers that show up are immigrants and mostly Hispanic. I hired the company/contractor--I don't know what the status of their workers is. Should I be asking the contractor to show me his workers' immigration status papers?

If you actually did recently live in the DC suburbs, then you would know firsthand that most of the people servicing our homes are immigrants--not "born and bred American workers." I realize that's not the same everywhere in the country--but that is the reality here.

My oh realize that contractors you hire fail to hire legal workers because they would have to pay more. Therefore they hire illegals pans pay poverty wages so that you accept their lower bid. I’d they hired legal workers, you would not go with their bid, and Americans go without the work. People like you are part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The millions of people who have recently come and will come in the next few years who are claiming asylum can work legally after one year if they haven’t had a court appearance. There is such a backlog that there are a Tun of legal recent integrantes who can lawfully work.

And there's a huge backlog because Republicans have consistently refused to allow more judges to be hired to clear the backlog, going all the way back to Obama and earlier.

Republicans complain about them being turned loose to await their hearing (which may take two years or more due to the backlog) yet haven't fixed the resource problem or changed the laws contributing to this problem.

March, 2022:

For each of the past seven fiscal years, Congress has appropriated additional money for the Department of Justice to hire more immigration judges.

Congress approved money for 55 new immigration judges to be added in Fiscal Year 2016; 10 in Fiscal 2017; 100 in Fiscal 2018; 50 in Fiscal 2019; 100 in Fiscal 2020; 100 in Fiscal 2021; and 100 in Fiscal 2022.

But as of December, there were only 576 immigration judges on board, and the backlog of immigration cases is at the highest in history.

Currently, there is enough federal money for the Executive Office of Immigration Review, the agency that is part of DOJ that oversees the U.S. immigration court system, to fund 634 immigration judges.

https://www.borderreport.com/immigration/congress-oks-money-for-more-immigration-judges-but-case-backlog-continues-to-worsen/

Of course, when you let in over 2 million migrants in 2 years, the backlog is only going to worsen.
Might that be Biden's strategy here???

Wow that is not many people and historically low for the US. No wonder we have such demand for workers.

Good grief. Do some research. The 2 million are those who entered illegally and does not include people who did things the right way and applied to come in. And it doesn’t include the over 1.3 million got aways since Biden took office.

No it is you who need to “do the research”. Your numbers are way off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

dp.. you know what.. most people don't live in rural areas, and even Trump's hotels use illegal immigrant labor, as do many R owned businesses in FL.

That doesn’t make it right. Are you now using Trump, of all people, as your barometer of what is acceptable behavior. Trump uses illegal workers because he can get away with working poverty wages. Maybe he won’t be able to going forward. At least in his Florida properties.

Did I say it was right? I said most people don't live in rural areas where everyone knows everyone, and there are few immigrants.

My point is that large businesses like Trump hotels, construction and gardening services companies use cheap illegal immigrant labor. A home owner doesn't know who is working for the company, or the person's legal status. You can ask the company, but they would flat out lie to you about whether they use illegal immigrant labor.

You're either dumb or super naive to think that the general public should be able to tell who is here legally or not.

Sorry. You’re the dumb one if you have no idea who is working in or on your house. Talking about stupid, that would be YOU. For one, if they cannot speak a word of English, I would side-eye their legal status and remind the contractor that you cannot have illegal workers working on my property. Of course maybe you don’t have anything to lose if something happened on your property and you were found to employ illegal immigrants.

[Anonymous]

The U.S. population grew by a tepid 0.38% between July 2021 and July 2022—slightly above the historic low of 0.16% during the first full year of the COVID-19 pandemic. Although the number of births rose, the number of deaths was still high as the pandemic continued.
The major contributor to the nation’s small population growth uptick was an increase in net immigration from abroad—a sharp contrast from the previous year’s extremely low immigration level.

… Both reduced natural increase and lower immigration helped to diminish national growth heading into the 2020-21 low point. To some degree, the former reflects the increased age of the U.S. population, which has led to proportionately fewer women in their child-bearing ages and a rise in Americans in older, high-mortality ages. In the long run, the aging of the population can lead to lower levels of natural increase.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-census-estimates-show-a-tepid-rise-in-u-s-population-growth-buoyed-by-immigration/#:~:text=Thus%2C%20the%20bulk%20of%20last,previous%20year%27s%20historically%20low%20rate.

Do not believe the maga hype. The country basically had no growth for the past few years. This is a serious problem. We need about 3-5 million immigrants a year. So we really need to dramatically increase immigration to this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The U.S. population grew by a tepid 0.38% between July 2021 and July 2022—slightly above the historic low of 0.16% during the first full year of the COVID-19 pandemic. Although the number of births rose, the number of deaths was still high as the pandemic continued.
The major contributor to the nation’s small population growth uptick was an increase in net immigration from abroad—a sharp contrast from the previous year’s extremely low immigration level.

… Both reduced natural increase and lower immigration helped to diminish national growth heading into the 2020-21 low point. To some degree, the former reflects the increased age of the U.S. population, which has led to proportionately fewer women in their child-bearing ages and a rise in Americans in older, high-mortality ages. In the long run, the aging of the population can lead to lower levels of natural increase.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-census-estimates-show-a-tepid-rise-in-u-s-population-growth-buoyed-by-immigration/#:~:text=Thus%2C%20the%20bulk%20of%20last,previous%20year%27s%20historically%20low%20rate.

Do not believe the maga hype. The country basically had no growth for the past few years. This is a serious problem. We need about 3-5 million immigrants a year. So we really need to dramatically increase immigration to this country.

Nah, AI is going to eliminate a ton of white collar jobs over the next 5 years or so. We just need to retrain those white collar workers to roof, mow lawns and harvest crops.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like a great plan. Other governors should have their legislatures enact similar laws.

If Biden refuses to enforce the border, drastic measures need to be taken. State governors need to do what they can to deal with the illegal immigration caused by this administration. Every state has become a border state.

Good luck going order your burger or getting any garden work done...

You just want cheap labor?