Florida new Immigration law

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

In our household, those are our kids.

Really? Your kids take down large trees? Are they licensed and bonded? If so, send them my way so they can give me a quote. I have a number of 10' trees that need to come down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

Your whole post conflates illegal migrants with legal immigrants.
And, who cares if I am on this board? So are people from NY and FL and other states.
I didn't realize it was exclusively for DC residents. And, BTW - I recently lived in the DC suburbs. Even there, I never hired people here illegally. Nor would I hire a business who had employees here illegally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

Your whole post conflates illegal migrants with legal immigrants.
And, who cares if I am on this board? So are people from NY and FL and other states.
I didn't realize it was exclusively for DC residents. And, BTW - I recently lived in the DC suburbs. Even there, I never hired people here illegally. Nor would I hire a business who had employees here illegally.

How do you know if someone is legal or not? Did you ask for their paperwork? Did you have them complete an I-9 form?

I have lived in the DMV 25+ years. Every time I hire a contractor to do upgrades on my home, the various workers that show up are immigrants and mostly Hispanic. I hired the company/contractor--I don't know what the status of their workers is. Should I be asking the contractor to show me his workers' immigration status papers?

If you actually did recently live in the DC suburbs, then you would know firsthand that most of the people servicing our homes are immigrants--not "born and bred American workers." I realize that's not the same everywhere in the country--but that is the reality here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

I just changed my roof last year with a local Virginian guy who has been in business for 30 years (born and raised American). My bathroom reno was done by a Ukrainian team who are here legally under U4U, great work, and very affordable European design. I pay my neighbor's high school kid to do my lawn (born and raised American), and my yard is done by my friend's retired father (born and raised American). Why not support local businesses? Americans are doing those jobs and they are not shitty jobs. Your post if very hateful toward our own workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

Your whole post conflates illegal migrants with legal immigrants.
And, who cares if I am on this board? So are people from NY and FL and other states.
I didn't realize it was exclusively for DC residents. And, BTW - I recently lived in the DC suburbs. Even there, I never hired people here illegally. Nor would I hire a business who had employees here illegally.

How do you know if someone is legal or not? Did you ask for their paperwork? Did you have them complete an I-9 form?

I have lived in the DMV 25+ years. Every time I hire a contractor to do upgrades on my home, the various workers that show up are immigrants and mostly Hispanic. I hired the company/contractor--I don't know what the status of their workers is. Should I be asking the contractor to show me his workers' immigration status papers?

If you actually did recently live in the DC suburbs, then you would know firsthand that most of the people servicing our homes are immigrants--not "born and bred American workers." I realize that's not the same everywhere in the country--but that is the reality here.

This is a dumb question. Yes, you should be asking the contractor if his employees are legal. This is like asking if I should follow the DUI law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

Your whole post conflates illegal migrants with legal immigrants.
And, who cares if I am on this board? So are people from NY and FL and other states.
I didn't realize it was exclusively for DC residents. And, BTW - I recently lived in the DC suburbs. Even there, I never hired people here illegally. Nor would I hire a business who had employees here illegally.

How do you know if someone is legal or not? Did you ask for their paperwork? Did you have them complete an I-9 form?

I have lived in the DMV 25+ years. Every time I hire a contractor to do upgrades on my home, the various workers that show up are immigrants and mostly Hispanic. I hired the company/contractor--I don't know what the status of their workers is. Should I be asking the contractor to show me his workers' immigration status papers?

If you actually did recently live in the DC suburbs, then you would know firsthand that most of the people servicing our homes are immigrants--not "born and bred American workers." I realize that's not the same everywhere in the country--but that is the reality here.

This is a dumb question. Yes, you should be asking the contractor if his employees are legal. This is like asking if I should follow the DUI law.

Why do you assume that all immigrants are not legal? Because anyone living in the DMV routinely interacts with immigrants in many different professions and has no way of knowing for sure what their status is. Should we be asking them and/or their employers what their status is? Do you routinely ask that question when you interact with a service provider who speaks with accented English? My mother was a white European immigrant who spoke with a thick accent. Would you have asked for her papers too?

Get off your sanctimonious high horse. You are living in some kind of weird rural bubble that does not represent the reality of a lot of this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

I just changed my roof last year with a local Virginian guy who has been in business for 30 years (born and raised American). My bathroom reno was done by a Ukrainian team who are here legally under U4U, great work, and very affordable European design. I pay my neighbor's high school kid to do my lawn (born and raised American), and my yard is done by my friend's retired father (born and raised American). Why not support local businesses? Americans are doing those jobs and they are not shitty jobs. Your post if very hateful toward our own workers.

how do you know the Ukrainian is here legally?

A lot of the farm workers who work in the fields are illegal immigrants. I don't see a ton of Americans wanting those jobs. And before you use the "if they paid more" argument, I'll remind you that people are already complaining about inflation and food prices. If wages go up, you should understand that the increase will be passed on to consumers. As a umc, I can afford the increase in prices. Can most Americans?

If you want to argue that execs should be paid less so workers can be paid more, I'm all for that. But that's anti-capitalism, right? Something Rs would abhor. I mean.. imagine a R wanting to interfere with businesses, and using politics as a weapon against businesses who don't agree with said politician.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

Your whole post conflates illegal migrants with legal immigrants.
And, who cares if I am on this board? So are people from NY and FL and other states.
I didn't realize it was exclusively for DC residents. And, BTW - I recently lived in the DC suburbs. Even there, I never hired people here illegally. Nor would I hire a business who had employees here illegally.

How do you know if someone is legal or not? Did you ask for their paperwork? Did you have them complete an I-9 form?

I have lived in the DMV 25+ years. Every time I hire a contractor to do upgrades on my home, the various workers that show up are immigrants and mostly Hispanic. I hired the company/contractor--I don't know what the status of their workers is. Should I be asking the contractor to show me his workers' immigration status papers?

If you actually did recently live in the DC suburbs, then you would know firsthand that most of the people servicing our homes are immigrants--not "born and bred American workers." I realize that's not the same everywhere in the country--but that is the reality here.

This is a dumb question. Yes, you should be asking the contractor if his employees are legal. This is like asking if I should follow the DUI law.

lol.. because the contractor would always tell the truth? LOL. Hopefully, not all rural are as dumb as you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

I just changed my roof last year with a local Virginian guy who has been in business for 30 years (born and raised American). My bathroom reno was done by a Ukrainian team who are here legally under U4U, great work, and very affordable European design. I pay my neighbor's high school kid to do my lawn (born and raised American), and my yard is done by my friend's retired father (born and raised American). Why not support local businesses? Americans are doing those jobs and they are not shitty jobs. Your post if very hateful toward our own workers.

All my local contractors have been local Virginians as well, "born and raised American" as you say. But their workers are not. Who did the work on your roof--I mean, who actually did the manual labor? I'm guessing they weren't "born and raised Americans."

Did you ask the Ukrainian for his papers? Otherwise how would you know if he is here legally.

I would love to hire a local kid or friend's retired father to work on my lawn, weed my yard, etc., but these are not the folks doing the work in my zip code. Once in a while a teenager shows up to shovel snow when we have a snowstorm and I immediately hire them to do it and pay them well. But it's not consistent and most teenagers in my neighborhood do not do these types of jobs. Where do you live, exactly, that there are so many "locals" available to do your lawn, etc.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

I just changed my roof last year with a local Virginian guy who has been in business for 30 years (born and raised American). My bathroom reno was done by a Ukrainian team who are here legally under U4U, great work, and very affordable European design. I pay my neighbor's high school kid to do my lawn (born and raised American), and my yard is done by my friend's retired father (born and raised American). Why not support local businesses? Americans are doing those jobs and they are not shitty jobs. Your post if very hateful toward our own workers.

how do you know the Ukrainian is here legally?

A lot of the farm workers who work in the fields are illegal immigrants. I don't see a ton of Americans wanting those jobs. And before you use the "if they paid more" argument, I'll remind you that people are already complaining about inflation and food prices. If wages go up, you should understand that the increase will be passed on to consumers. As a umc, I can afford the increase in prices. Can most Americans?

If you want to argue that execs should be paid less so workers can be paid more, I'm all for that. But that's anti-capitalism, right? Something Rs would abhor. I mean.. imagine a R wanting to interfere with businesses, and using politics as a weapon against businesses who don't agree with said politician.

*coughDisneycough*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck with your roofers, home reno workers, lawn service, tree service, restaurant and fast food workers, home health care workers for the elderly, nursing home workers, produce pickers, seafood processors, meat packing workers, public restroom cleaners, and workers who do every shitty job Americans don’t want to do.

You know what? I live in a rural community.
All of the people I hire and who work at local businesses are actually NOT illegal migrants. They are born and bred American workers. It is refreshing. We have many lawn service professionals, roofers, tree service professionals, and fast food workers who were born and raised in this area. Glad to give them the work.
Why would I hire an illegal migrant to roof my home? Are they bonded? Do they have insurance? Likely no.
Why would I hire someone here illegally to do any kind of work around my home if they can't speak English well enough to communicate?

I am all for a guest worker program, but I am vehemently opposed to the employment of people here illegally.

That's nice. So why are you on the DC Urban Moms and Dads board? In the DC metro area, the vast majority of these jobs are performed by immigrants, legal or not. And we don't hire "illegal migrants" as roofers--we hire mostly white contractors who use migrants to do the work. Also, many immigrants who have been here a while are bonded and do have insurance. And the ones that run their own businesses do know enough English to communicate. Why don't you frequent message boards that reflect the reality of your rural community--why waste your time on this board?

Your whole post conflates illegal migrants with legal immigrants.
And, who cares if I am on this board? So are people from NY and FL and other states.
I didn't realize it was exclusively for DC residents. And, BTW - I recently lived in the DC suburbs. Even there, I never hired people here illegally. Nor would I hire a business who had employees here illegally.

It's weird to spend time arguing on a message board that is not meant for you. Like if an athiest went to church just to argue with all of the believers. I guess it's technically allowed but it makes you seem like a bit of an ass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like a great plan. Other governors should have their legislatures enact similar laws.

If Biden refuses to enforce the border, drastic measures need to be taken. State governors need to do what they can to deal with the illegal immigration caused by this administration. Every state has become a border state.

Good luck going order your burger or getting any garden work done...

What's wrong with paying an affordable wage?

Oh yeah people want cheap stuff!

[Anonymous]

The millions of people who have recently come and will come in the next few years who are claiming asylum can work legally after one year if they haven’t had a court appearance. There is such a backlog that there are a Tun of legal recent integrantes who can lawfully work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The millions of people who have recently come and will come in the next few years who are claiming asylum can work legally after one year if they haven’t had a court appearance. There is such a backlog that there are a Tun of legal recent integrantes who can lawfully work.

And there's a huge backlog because Republicans have consistently refused to allow more judges to be hired to clear the backlog, going all the way back to Obama and earlier.

Republicans complain about them being turned loose to await their hearing (which may take two years or more due to the backlog) yet haven't fixed the resource problem or changed the laws contributing to this problem.