What Happens if You Can't Pass Algebra 1 MCAP?

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What is the difference between Calculus w/apps and AP Calc AB/BC? (I read the descriptions but don't know enough math to understand the difference.) Is Calculus with Apps more advanced?

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Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between Calculus w/apps and AP Calc AB/BC? (I read the descriptions but don't know enough math to understand the difference.) Is Calculus with Apps more advanced?

Calculus with Apps is less advanced (or at least less theoretical. It might actually be more practical, since AP calculus is in the classic tradition of arcane math that isn't suitable for engineering).

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to pass the Algebra MCAP. However, beginning next year(23-24) it will count for 20% of the course grade.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx

Which is totally ridiculous if the scores don't come back until Feb of the following year. Congratulations you have an A ... oh wait

IT WILL most likely be graded the same week.

The MCAP Algebra test has places to show work. I don't know how fast they can grade that.

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Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

The reason for the law is that math is a critical life skill that should be practiced every year, like Language Arts.

Computer Science and Statistics both counts for math reuqirement.

Students who don't want more math have the option to slow down and spread the math across 4 years, with the 2-year Alg 2 option and the GPA-boosting 2-year AP calc option, per this chart.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

It is a shame that there is no option for a micro economics / personal finance class for math credit. Financial Mathematics and Quantitative Literacy courses exist(ed) but do not seem to be widely available.

Why am I missing the 2 year Calc option on this? And why is it GPA boosting? I thought the 2yr Alg 2 option is not highly looked at by colleges

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

If the kids are smart enough, they should absolutely be able to finish and move onto to tougher or different electives. Forcing kids to take easy math just to keep it mandatory all 4 years is ridiculous. My kid is in honors geometry 8th grade and is bored and has had 96 or higher each marking period. But I agree with the other person. Taking Calc B/C and beyond is unnecessary unless they are going into math/science/engineering/med. Otherwise there are a lot of other AP's to take for a person wanted to go to college for other things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

The reason for the law is that math is a critical life skill that should be practiced every year, like Language Arts.

Computer Science and Statistics both counts for math reuqirement.

Students who don't want more math have the option to slow down and spread the math across 4 years, with the 2-year Alg 2 option and the GPA-boosting 2-year AP calc option, per this chart.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

It is a shame that there is no option for a micro economics / personal finance class for math credit. Financial Mathematics and Quantitative Literacy courses exist(ed) but do not seem to be widely available.

Why am I missing the 2 year Calc option on this? And why is it GPA boosting? I thought the 2yr Alg 2 option is not highly looked at by colleges

I think the 2-year calculus pathway referred to as GPA boosting is AP A/B and AP B/C. GPA boosting because A/B content is repeated (albeit more quickly) in B/C

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

If the kids are smart enough, they should absolutely be able to finish and move onto to tougher or different electives. Forcing kids to take easy math just to keep it mandatory all 4 years is ridiculous. My kid is in honors geometry 8th grade and is bored and has had 96 or higher each marking period. But I agree with the other person. Taking Calc B/C and beyond is unnecessary unless they are going into math/science/engineering/med. Otherwise there are a lot of other AP's to take for a person wanted to go to college for other things.

Smart kids can take different math so how is it bad to require 4 years of math. You can do other things like statistics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

If the kids are smart enough, they should absolutely be able to finish and move onto to tougher or different electives. Forcing kids to take easy math just to keep it mandatory all 4 years is ridiculous. My kid is in honors geometry 8th grade and is bored and has had 96 or higher each marking period. But I agree with the other person. Taking Calc B/C and beyond is unnecessary unless they are going into math/science/engineering/med. Otherwise there are a lot of other AP's to take for a person wanted to go to college for other things.

Smart kids can take different math so how is it bad to require 4 years of math. You can do other things like statistics.

Some smart kids have other interests that are more important to them than math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

If the kids are smart enough, they should absolutely be able to finish and move onto to tougher or different electives. Forcing kids to take easy math just to keep it mandatory all 4 years is ridiculous. My kid is in honors geometry 8th grade and is bored and has had 96 or higher each marking period. But I agree with the other person. Taking Calc B/C and beyond is unnecessary unless they are going into math/science/engineering/med. Otherwise there are a lot of other AP's to take for a person wanted to go to college for other things.

Smart kids can take different math so how is it bad to require 4 years of math. You can do other things like statistics.

Some smart kids have other interests that are more important to them than math.

Well, that's an oxymoron since they can't be very smart then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

If the kids are smart enough, they should absolutely be able to finish and move onto to tougher or different electives. Forcing kids to take easy math just to keep it mandatory all 4 years is ridiculous. My kid is in honors geometry 8th grade and is bored and has had 96 or higher each marking period. But I agree with the other person. Taking Calc B/C and beyond is unnecessary unless they are going into math/science/engineering/med. Otherwise there are a lot of other AP's to take for a person wanted to go to college for other things.

Smart kids can take different math so how is it bad to require 4 years of math. You can do other things like statistics.

Some smart kids have other interests that are more important to them than math.

Well, that's an oxymoron since they can't be very smart then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

If the kids are smart enough, they should absolutely be able to finish and move onto to tougher or different electives. Forcing kids to take easy math just to keep it mandatory all 4 years is ridiculous. My kid is in honors geometry 8th grade and is bored and has had 96 or higher each marking period. But I agree with the other person. Taking Calc B/C and beyond is unnecessary unless they are going into math/science/engineering/med. Otherwise there are a lot of other AP's to take for a person wanted to go to college for other things.

Smart kids can take different math so how is it bad to require 4 years of math. You can do other things like statistics.

Some smart kids have other interests that are more important to them than math.

Also your quantitative skills don't really define how smart you are. I know a lot of "smart" people who aren't great at math. jeesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait for many of the kids getting A’s to fail this testing. Showing how corrupt MCPS grading is.

But the test will likely be calibrated to MCPS students' performance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

If the kids are smart enough, they should absolutely be able to finish and move onto to tougher or different electives. Forcing kids to take easy math just to keep it mandatory all 4 years is ridiculous. My kid is in honors geometry 8th grade and is bored and has had 96 or higher each marking period. But I agree with the other person. Taking Calc B/C and beyond is unnecessary unless they are going into math/science/engineering/med. Otherwise there are a lot of other AP's to take for a person wanted to go to college for other things.

You could DE one math class per year and have the other semester free. Calc 1, 2, and discrete math - that's three years' worth in 3 semesters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

Or maybe don't push kids so far ahead in math? I am all for requiring math all 4 years.

If the kids are smart enough, they should absolutely be able to finish and move onto to tougher or different electives. Forcing kids to take easy math just to keep it mandatory all 4 years is ridiculous. My kid is in honors geometry 8th grade and is bored and has had 96 or higher each marking period. But I agree with the other person. Taking Calc B/C and beyond is unnecessary unless they are going into math/science/engineering/med. Otherwise there are a lot of other AP's to take for a person wanted to go to college for other things.

You could DE one math class per year and have the other semester free. Calc 1, 2, and discrete math - that's three years' worth in 3 semesters

DE = Fairfax County. This is Maryland, have to take the whole year