What Happens if You Can't Pass Algebra 1 MCAP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to pass the Algebra MCAP. However, beginning next year(23-24) it will count for 20% of the course grade.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx

Which is totally ridiculous if the scores don't come back until Feb of the following year. Congratulations you have an A ... oh wait

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to pass the Algebra MCAP. However, beginning next year(23-24) it will count for 20% of the course grade.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx

Which is totally ridiculous if the scores don't come back until Feb of the following year. Congratulations you have an A ... oh wait

Once the computerized test is calibrated, it would be able to provide instant results upon completion of the test, like MAP does today. (MAP mailers are delayed, but the scores are displayed immediately upon completion.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

[Anonymous]

I can’t wait for many of the kids getting A’s to fail this testing. Showing how corrupt MCPS grading is.

[Anonymous]

did this replace the HSA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to pass the Algebra MCAP. However, beginning next year(23-24) it will count for 20% of the course grade.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx

Which is totally ridiculous if the scores don't come back until Feb of the following year. Congratulations you have an A ... oh wait

IT WILL most likely be graded the same week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

The reason for the law is that math is a critical life skill that should be practiced every year, like Language Arts.

Computer Science and Statistics both counts for math reuqirement.

Students who don't want more math have the option to slow down and spread the math across 4 years, with the 2-year Alg 2 option and the GPA-boosting 2-year AP calc option, per this chart.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

It is a shame that there is no option for a micro economics / personal finance class for math credit. Financial Mathematics and Quantitative Literacy courses exist(ed) but do not seem to be widely available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

The reason for the law is that math is a critical life skill that should be practiced every year, like Language Arts.

Computer Science and Statistics both counts for math reuqirement.

Students who don't want more math have the option to slow down and spread the math across 4 years, with the 2-year Alg 2 option and the GPA-boosting 2-year AP calc option, per this chart.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

It is a shame that there is no option for a micro economics / personal finance class for math credit. Financial Mathematics and Quantitative Literacy courses exist(ed) but do not seem to be widely available.

I didn't know that computer science counted toward the math requirement. So if they want they can take, say, the AP computer science course in lieu of math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to pass the Algebra MCAP. However, beginning next year(23-24) it will count for 20% of the course grade.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx

Which is totally ridiculous if the scores don't come back until Feb of the following year. Congratulations you have an A ... oh wait

It has more to do with the state needing to better calibrate the scoring since the test is so new. Once they finish working out all the bugs, there should be a quick turnaround.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

The reason for the law is that math is a critical life skill that should be practiced every year, like Language Arts.

Computer Science and Statistics both counts for math reuqirement.

Students who don't want more math have the option to slow down and spread the math across 4 years, with the 2-year Alg 2 option and the GPA-boosting 2-year AP calc option, per this chart.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

It is a shame that there is no option for a micro economics / personal finance class for math credit. Financial Mathematics and Quantitative Literacy courses exist(ed) but do not seem to be widely available.

I didn't know that computer science counted toward the math requirement. So if they want they can take, say, the AP computer science course in lieu of math?

I don't think that's true. Financial/quantitative literacy counts as math, but not CS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

The reason for the law is that math is a critical life skill that should be practiced every year, like Language Arts.

Computer Science and Statistics both counts for math reuqirement.

Students who don't want more math have the option to slow down and spread the math across 4 years, with the 2-year Alg 2 option and the GPA-boosting 2-year AP calc option, per this chart.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

It is a shame that there is no option for a micro economics / personal finance class for math credit. Financial Mathematics and Quantitative Literacy courses exist(ed) but do not seem to be widely available.

I didn't know that computer science counted toward the math requirement. So if they want they can take, say, the AP computer science course in lieu of math?

I don't think that's true. Financial/quantitative literacy counts as math, but not CS.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/programs/Documents/Testing/GraduationsRequirements2018.pdf

This says
"Question: Does Computer Science satisfy the requirement for a credit in mathematics?
Answer: Yes. COMAR 13A.04.12.01(j) defines the Maryland Mathematics Program. The
regulation includes reference to Computer Science coursework. The list of mathematics course
offerings includes both “AP © Computer Science” and “a computer science course that is not
AP © Computer Science to satisfy the requirement for a credit in mathematics if the local school
system determines the course meets the mathematics standards required by this regulation.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

The reason for the law is that math is a critical life skill that should be practiced every year, like Language Arts.

Computer Science and Statistics both counts for math reuqirement.

Students who don't want more math have the option to slow down and spread the math across 4 years, with the 2-year Alg 2 option and the GPA-boosting 2-year AP calc option, per this chart.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

It is a shame that there is no option for a micro economics / personal finance class for math credit. Financial Mathematics and Quantitative Literacy courses exist(ed) but do not seem to be widely available.

I didn't know that computer science counted toward the math requirement. So if they want they can take, say, the AP computer science course in lieu of math?

I don't think that's true. Financial/quantitative literacy counts as math, but not CS.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/programs/Documents/Testing/GraduationsRequirements2018.pdf

This says
"Question: Does Computer Science satisfy the requirement for a credit in mathematics?
Answer: Yes. COMAR 13A.04.12.01(j) defines the Maryland Mathematics Program. The
regulation includes reference to Computer Science coursework. The list of mathematics course
offerings includes both “AP © Computer Science” and “a computer science course that is not
AP © Computer Science to satisfy the requirement for a credit in mathematics if the local school
system determines the course meets the mathematics standards required by this regulation.”

But do we have any documentation that MCPS has made this determination?

[Anonymous]

On the pathway, what is "Calculus/Apps"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the pathway, what is "Calculus/Apps"?

Calculus with Applications

https://coursebulletin.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/CourseDetails/Index/MAT2049A

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thx. so, for class of 2025 and beyond:
MATHEMATICS
4 credits, including 1 with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or 1 or more
credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra I is a prerequisite, and 1 with instruction in geometry aligned
with the content standards for geometry.

STATE REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS GRADUATING IN 2018 AND LATER: Students graduating in 2018 and later must be
enrolled in a math course in each year of high school. This may result in students earning more than 4 credits in math for graduation.

There's nothing about the Algebra MCAP in there. Our MS counselor was surprised about the req for 4 years of math in HS regardless of MS math taken.

Making all the kids take 4 years of math no matter where they are is absolutely ridiculous. My DD is in honors geometry in 8th and rather finish 1 year of Calc after sophomore year and go onto to other AP courses that interest her.

Forcing these kids to take math courses 99% of the population won’t ever use or need, is ridiculous.

Forcing kids who struggle at math to go past Algebra 1, while not making financial literacy mandatory is also insane.

Let these kids explore in high school. Stop the cookie cutter.

The reason for the law is that math is a critical life skill that should be practiced every year, like Language Arts.

Computer Science and Statistics both counts for math reuqirement.

Students who don't want more math have the option to slow down and spread the math across 4 years, with the 2-year Alg 2 option and the GPA-boosting 2-year AP calc option, per this chart.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

It is a shame that there is no option for a micro economics / personal finance class for math credit. Financial Mathematics and Quantitative Literacy courses exist(ed) but do not seem to be widely available.

I didn't know that computer science counted toward the math requirement. So if they want they can take, say, the AP computer science course in lieu of math?

I don't think that's true. Financial/quantitative literacy counts as math, but not CS.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/programs/Documents/Testing/GraduationsRequirements2018.pdf

This says
"Question: Does Computer Science satisfy the requirement for a credit in mathematics?
Answer: Yes. COMAR 13A.04.12.01(j) defines the Maryland Mathematics Program. The
regulation includes reference to Computer Science coursework. The list of mathematics course
offerings includes both “AP © Computer Science” and “a computer science course that is not
AP © Computer Science to satisfy the requirement for a credit in mathematics if the local school
system determines the course meets the mathematics standards required by this regulation.”

But do we have any documentation that MCPS has made this determination?

MCPS has two kinds of documentation for it's various requirements: undocumented, and contradictorily documented.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/graduation-requirements