Teacher not following accommodations

[Anonymous]

NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

Yeah, they are given extra time.

Why do you need to police the time other students are given?

You cannot conjure time out thin air, and ultimately, for some students these policies lead to work simply piling up and being untenable. We're not talking about extenuating circumstances. In those cases, students can get an incomplete and complete work on a timely manner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Document everything and go as far up the chain as you need to on this. Not following accommodations can open the district up to a lawsuit (as it should). I’m a professor at a public university. Extended time to complete assignments is a common accommodation. It is made very clear to us that we open the university up to being sued if we don’t follow these accommodations. It makes me mad when I hear about teachers and professors not following these. Yes it’s extra work to keep track of who has accommodations and what exactly they specify. It’s not an excuse to not follow them.

Thank you. It's so good to hear that there are college professors who understand and care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Document everything and go as far up the chain as you need to on this. Not following accommodations can open the district up to a lawsuit (as it should). I’m a professor at a public university. Extended time to complete assignments is a common accommodation. It is made very clear to us that we open the university up to being sued if we don’t follow these accommodations. It makes me mad when I hear about teachers and professors not following these. Yes it’s extra work to keep track of who has accommodations and what exactly they specify. It’s not an excuse to not follow them.

Doesn't extended time refer usually to testing within restricted settings and time frames? You don't have to give later due dates for papers and projects done at home. Kids need to learn to manage their time based on the other responsibilities they have. It's not clear from op what the issue is.

This is the reason that it is a mistake to post this in the general education forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Document everything and go as far up the chain as you need to on this. Not following accommodations can open the district up to a lawsuit (as it should). I’m a professor at a public university. Extended time to complete assignments is a common accommodation. It is made very clear to us that we open the university up to being sued if we don’t follow these accommodations. It makes me mad when I hear about teachers and professors not following these. Yes it’s extra work to keep track of who has accommodations and what exactly they specify. It’s not an excuse to not follow them.

Thank you. It's so good to hear that there are college professors who understand and care.

There are high school teachers who understand and care, too. Many of us. Many, many of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.

Teacher here.
There is a ton to balance. I often give tests on Fridays because they take 8-10 hours to grade. A Friday test can get back to students on Monday for prompt feedback because I have all weekend to grade. A test any other day of the week won’t get graded until the weekend anyway because I’m already devoting 11-12 hours each day to teaching and routine tasks.

Extra time students can meet me during lunch, before school, or after school any day of the week. I regularly get to work an hour early so extra time students can start before their classmates. I regularly stay after, too.

I appreciate the needs of your student, but I also have to appreciate the needs of well over 100 others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.

Teacher here.
There is a ton to balance. I often give tests on Fridays because they take 8-10 hours to grade. A Friday test can get back to students on Monday for prompt feedback because I have all weekend to grade. A test any other day of the week won’t get graded until the weekend anyway because I’m already devoting 11-12 hours each day to teaching and routine tasks.

Extra time students can meet me during lunch, before school, or after school any day of the week. I regularly get to work an hour early so extra time students can start before their classmates. I regularly stay after, too.

I appreciate the needs of your student, but I also have to appreciate the needs of well over 100 others.

It sounds like you give tests when it’s best for you based on grading, though. Don’t pretend this is about the 100 other students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.

Teacher here.
There is a ton to balance. I often give tests on Fridays because they take 8-10 hours to grade. A Friday test can get back to students on Monday for prompt feedback because I have all weekend to grade. A test any other day of the week won’t get graded until the weekend anyway because I’m already devoting 11-12 hours each day to teaching and routine tasks.

Extra time students can meet me during lunch, before school, or after school any day of the week. I regularly get to work an hour early so extra time students can start before their classmates. I regularly stay after, too.

I appreciate the needs of your student, but I also have to appreciate the needs of well over 100 others.

It sounds like you give tests when it’s best for you based on grading, though. Don’t pretend this is about the 100 other students.

….but as has been made clear on other threads, parents (and students) highly value prompt grading and feedback. So why on earth would you fault a teacher for arranging their calendar to give that????

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.

Teacher here.
There is a ton to balance. I often give tests on Fridays because they take 8-10 hours to grade. A Friday test can get back to students on Monday for prompt feedback because I have all weekend to grade. A test any other day of the week won’t get graded until the weekend anyway because I’m already devoting 11-12 hours each day to teaching and routine tasks.

Extra time students can meet me during lunch, before school, or after school any day of the week. I regularly get to work an hour early so extra time students can start before their classmates. I regularly stay after, too.

I appreciate the needs of your student, but I also have to appreciate the needs of well over 100 others.

It sounds like you give tests when it’s best for you based on grading, though. Don’t pretend this is about the 100 other students.

….but as has been made clear on other threads, parents (and students) highly value prompt grading and feedback. So why on earth would you fault a teacher for arranging their calendar to give that????

Thank you! I’m the teacher PP. How does it benefit students to give them a test on Tuesday that I can’t return until the following Monday anyway? No, I genuinely do NOT have the 8-10 hours to grade during the week. I get no time at work to grade or plan. None. It’s entirely done during my off hours.

It is ENTIRELY in the students’ best interest to test on Friday. Does the PP think it’s in MY best interest to give up every weekend?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.

Teacher here.
There is a ton to balance. I often give tests on Fridays because they take 8-10 hours to grade. A Friday test can get back to students on Monday for prompt feedback because I have all weekend to grade. A test any other day of the week won’t get graded until the weekend anyway because I’m already devoting 11-12 hours each day to teaching and routine tasks.

Extra time students can meet me during lunch, before school, or after school any day of the week. I regularly get to work an hour early so extra time students can start before their classmates. I regularly stay after, too.

I appreciate the needs of your student, but I also have to appreciate the needs of well over 100 others.

It sounds like you give tests when it’s best for you based on grading, though. Don’t pretend this is about the 100 other students.

….but as has been made clear on other threads, parents (and students) highly value prompt grading and feedback. So why on earth would you fault a teacher for arranging their calendar to give that????

Thank you! I’m the teacher PP. How does it benefit students to give them a test on Tuesday that I can’t return until the following Monday anyway? No, I genuinely do NOT have the 8-10 hours to grade during the week. I get no time at work to grade or plan. None. It’s entirely done during my off hours.

It is ENTIRELY in the students’ best interest to test on Friday. Does the PP think it’s in MY best interest to give up every weekend?

PP - ignore the A-hole who accused of scheduling test for your own "convenience". They are clearly not very bright or not very good at whatever it is they do if they can't recoginze how proper planning, task and time management work. FWIW - I 'm not a a teacher so not defending "my own" here, just someone who has common sense and can see how what you are doing makes sense. My kid would much rather take a test where they know they can get timely feedback than not.

[Anonymous]

I'm a teacher.

I'd write the teacher tomorrow and say you want to come in a morning or afternoon this week to talk with them before or after school: what day is best? Let them know it's about the implementation of DC's 504 plan.

If they do not respond, then contact the counselor.

They may just be overwhelmed. But it's still not good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.

Teacher here.
There is a ton to balance. I often give tests on Fridays because they take 8-10 hours to grade. A Friday test can get back to students on Monday for prompt feedback because I have all weekend to grade. A test any other day of the week won’t get graded until the weekend anyway because I’m already devoting 11-12 hours each day to teaching and routine tasks.

Extra time students can meet me during lunch, before school, or after school any day of the week. I regularly get to work an hour early so extra time students can start before their classmates. I regularly stay after, too.

I appreciate the needs of your student, but I also have to appreciate the needs of well over 100 others.

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.


It sounds like you give tests when it’s best for you based on grading, though. Don’t pretend this is about the 100 other students.

WhyTF would anyone want to be a teacher these days after reading the this stuff?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, also frustrated with these issues, especially for assignments due on the last week of the marking period, people just said ever need to be in, no room for extra time.
In some of the cases, extension are given to the whole class, and there is no extra time given to students with 504 on top of that, teacher just responded they already given extra time

the teachers like to give tests on Fridays. This means that they review on Thursdays. Then they give Larlo his test on Friday. He gets double time and should be able to finish it the next day, but the ‘next’ day is Monday. Oh, and by the way, it’s Spring Break. He can take the second half of the test in another week then. So, he is at another disadvantage to recall info from 10 days ago or study over the break.

Teacher here.
There is a ton to balance. I often give tests on Fridays because they take 8-10 hours to grade. A Friday test can get back to students on Monday for prompt feedback because I have all weekend to grade. A test any other day of the week won’t get graded until the weekend anyway because I’m already devoting 11-12 hours each day to teaching and routine tasks.

Extra time students can meet me during lunch, before school, or after school any day of the week. I regularly get to work an hour early so extra time students can start before their classmates. I regularly stay after, too.

I appreciate the needs of your student, but I also have to appreciate the needs of well over 100 others.

It sounds like you give tests when it’s best for you based on grading, though. Don’t pretend this is about the 100 other students.

….but as has been made clear on other threads, parents (and students) highly value prompt grading and feedback. So why on earth would you fault a teacher for arranging their calendar to give that????

Thank you! I’m the teacher PP. How does it benefit students to give them a test on Tuesday that I can’t return until the following Monday anyway? No, I genuinely do NOT have the 8-10 hours to grade during the week. I get no time at work to grade or plan. None. It’s entirely done during my off hours.

It is ENTIRELY in the students’ best interest to test on Friday. Does the PP think it’s in MY best interest to give up every weekend?

PP - ignore the A-hole who accused of scheduling test for your own "convenience". They are clearly not very bright or not very good at whatever it is they do if they can't recoginze how proper planning, task and time management work. FWIW - I 'm not a a teacher so not defending "my own" here, just someone who has common sense and can see how what you are doing makes sense. My kid would much rather take a test where they know they can get timely feedback than not.

It’s best for a student to take the test when he/she is ready and has had ample time to study and when the teacher feels he/she has adequately taught the material. Basing taking a test on timely feedback is odd, considering most of the tests are multiple choice and graded by a computer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher.

I'd write the teacher tomorrow and say you want to come in a morning or afternoon this week to talk with them before or after school: what day is best? Let them know it's about the implementation of DC's 504 plan.

If they do not respond, then contact the counselor.

They may just be overwhelmed. But it's still not good.

It's currently spring break. I hope the teacher does NOT respond this week.