Bill Maher: Democrats and crime

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maher is still liberal. He’s just frustrated by how far left we’ve gone on certain issues. He’s not wrong, and we should listen instead of doubling down to defend problematic stances that republicans will use against us.

Signed,

Lifelong Dem

Like what, my dear? Which stances of Democrats who matter are too far left? Who is advocating for violent criminals to be out on the street? Which elected Democrats say crime is no big deal?

Because from where I sit, I see the police - generally a pretty conservative group - having gotten shirty that many people were calling for accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and those same police just decided they didn’t need to do their jobs. Then I watched the videos of police officers fail to do any policing when children were being mowed down while simultaneously preventing parents from rushing in to save their children. Then I think of the thousands of anecdotes I’ve read about the police just not doing their jobs - telling rape victims (in modern times!) they’re mistaken and that they’re not going to investigate, flat out ignoring calls of break ins and violent assaults on the street and you want to sit here and blame the Democrats because you can’t figure out that nobodies on Twitter mean nothing?

Or you want to go real broad strokes and whine about the border, the border that is absolutely not open or the broader issue of Republicans loving the red meat issue and the profits undocumented employers bring their donors?

I brought up the GOP and they’re harboring hundreds of criminals among the elected in their party upthread and I stand by that. That’s one entire party that openly supports crime and you want everyone to focus on the Democrats?

JFC. Save us from the “lifelong Dems” and “classic liberals” like Maher, aka conservatives.

Do you want to win elections, pp?

Both Maher and I want Dems to win.

Republicans are far better than Dems at messaging. Facts don’t matter. People worry about their safety and their wallet. Republicans realize that and they adopt uniform talking points fueling fear and painting Dems as the villain.

Facts don’t matter. Perception is everything.

Some Dem-led cities have obvious issues and recent horrific headlines that Rs will use against Ds. Crime and immigration are the two issues they will use. They’ll pepper their rhetoric with “the woke left is crazy” and then show images of riots, drugged out homeless people, hundreds of migrants crossing the border, etc. and then highlight recent incidents.

Remember when Maher predicted Trump’s win? Remember when he predicted that Trump would go easily if he lost?

If you watch Maher and really listen to what he’s saying, you’ll realize that he’s really focusing on party rhetoric and messaging—because that’s what wins campaigns. He’s pointing out areas that Rs will leverage, and we should listen.

Most Americans are moderate, not far right or far left. Defund the police messaging (regardless of the actual policy) backfired, and Rs will use it against us. That’s a fact. And they have plenty of ammunition. Doubling down on police brutality won’t win votes.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Dem who agrees we need to crack down on crime, starting with violent offenders and repeat offenders. Sure, we also need to deal with some of the underlying social issues as well but while the crime's still happening we can't turn a complete blind eye to it. If you're that concerned about the social issues WORK HARDER on it, and in tandem with law enforcement - and stop promoting STUPID policies that have violent serial offenders right back on the street committing more crimes a month after they were arrested.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

I sometimes wonder if the crime issue is being intentionally compounded by police unions.

What we get from the police constantly seems to be one of two extremes. Either it's excess violence, over-the-top, shoot first, ask questions later, throwing unarmed non-violent people to the ground tasering repeatedly and/or crushing them under a knee sending them into cardiac arrest...

or it's "our hands are tied there's nothing we can do and if we arrest anyone they will be right back on the streets bla bla bla"

It's either one extreme or the other - as if there were absolutely no positions anywhere between. It's frustrating and counterproductive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maher is still liberal. He’s just frustrated by how far left we’ve gone on certain issues. He’s not wrong, and we should listen instead of doubling down to defend problematic stances that republicans will use against us.

Signed,

Lifelong Dem

Like what, my dear? Which stances of Democrats who matter are too far left? Who is advocating for violent criminals to be out on the street? Which elected Democrats say crime is no big deal?

Because from where I sit, I see the police - generally a pretty conservative group - having gotten shirty that many people were calling for accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and those same police just decided they didn’t need to do their jobs. Then I watched the videos of police officers fail to do any policing when children were being mowed down while simultaneously preventing parents from rushing in to save their children. Then I think of the thousands of anecdotes I’ve read about the police just not doing their jobs - telling rape victims (in modern times!) they’re mistaken and that they’re not going to investigate, flat out ignoring calls of break ins and violent assaults on the street and you want to sit here and blame the Democrats because you can’t figure out that nobodies on Twitter mean nothing?

Or you want to go real broad strokes and whine about the border, the border that is absolutely not open or the broader issue of Republicans loving the red meat issue and the profits undocumented employers bring their donors?

I brought up the GOP and they’re harboring hundreds of criminals among the elected in their party upthread and I stand by that. That’s one entire party that openly supports crime and you want everyone to focus on the Democrats?

JFC. Save us from the “lifelong Dems” and “classic liberals” like Maher, aka conservatives.

Let's see....

"Defund the police." Sure, you can claim that Democrats don't want this, but it is DEMOCRATS - in Congress- who continue to beat this drum.
Abortion up until birth - It used to be Safe, legal, and rare - but it now has become something to celebrate. So, until elected Democrats can speak out on the limits of abortion, this is an extreme position.
Border policy - you can yap all you want about the border not being open - but the migrants who are coming, entering illegally, and being allowed to stay will tell you otherwise. Our border has NEVER - EVER - been this bad. And, our northern border is now seeing record number of encounters thanks to Joe's inaction.

These are just a few examples of how extreme the left has become... in addition to those discussed by Maher.

And, one last point - I will argue that it is the rhetoric and the policies of the left that have caused issues in law enforcement. Good people no longer want to do the job. They see how this profession is demonized and treated. Why work in a field where you are exposed to such crap?? So, many police forces are now facing a dwindling force and lowering their standards for new recruits.

The vast majority of the men and women who work in law enforcement are honorable and hard working people. Don't paint the entire profession with a broad brush. There are bad apples in EVERY profession.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Murder rates are high in many rural areas. And small towns.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america

They're also high in the few cities controlled by republicans, but we don't talk about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maher is still liberal. He’s just frustrated by how far left we’ve gone on certain issues. He’s not wrong, and we should listen instead of doubling down to defend problematic stances that republicans will use against us.

Signed,

Lifelong Dem

Like what, my dear? Which stances of Democrats who matter are too far left? Who is advocating for violent criminals to be out on the street? Which elected Democrats say crime is no big deal?

Because from where I sit, I see the police - generally a pretty conservative group - having gotten shirty that many people were calling for accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and those same police just decided they didn’t need to do their jobs. Then I watched the videos of police officers fail to do any policing when children were being mowed down while simultaneously preventing parents from rushing in to save their children. Then I think of the thousands of anecdotes I’ve read about the police just not doing their jobs - telling rape victims (in modern times!) they’re mistaken and that they’re not going to investigate, flat out ignoring calls of break ins and violent assaults on the street and you want to sit here and blame the Democrats because you can’t figure out that nobodies on Twitter mean nothing?

Or you want to go real broad strokes and whine about the border, the border that is absolutely not open or the broader issue of Republicans loving the red meat issue and the profits undocumented employers bring their donors?

I brought up the GOP and they’re harboring hundreds of criminals among the elected in their party upthread and I stand by that. That’s one entire party that openly supports crime and you want everyone to focus on the Democrats?

JFC. Save us from the “lifelong Dems” and “classic liberals” like Maher, aka conservatives.

Let's see....

"Defund the police." Sure, you can claim that Democrats don't want this, but it is DEMOCRATS - in Congress- who continue to beat this drum.
Abortion up until birth - It used to be Safe, legal, and rare - but it now has become something to celebrate. So, until elected Democrats can speak out on the limits of abortion, this is an extreme position.
Border policy - you can yap all you want about the border not being open - but the migrants who are coming, entering illegally, and being allowed to stay will tell you otherwise. Our border has NEVER - EVER - been this bad. And, our northern border is now seeing record number of encounters thanks to Joe's inaction.

These are just a few examples of how extreme the left has become... in addition to those discussed by Maher.

And, one last point - I will argue that it is the rhetoric and the policies of the left that have caused issues in law enforcement. Good people no longer want to do the job. They see how this profession is demonized and treated. Why work in a field where you are exposed to such crap?? So, many police forces are now facing a dwindling force and lowering their standards for new recruits.

The vast majority of the men and women who work in law enforcement are honorable and hard working people. Don't paint the entire profession with a broad brush. There are bad apples in EVERY profession.

Democrats have controlled at least one house for a while now, can you point to these defund the police bills that they've passed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maher is still liberal. He’s just frustrated by how far left we’ve gone on certain issues. He’s not wrong, and we should listen instead of doubling down to defend problematic stances that republicans will use against us.

Signed,

Lifelong Dem

Like what, my dear? Which stances of Democrats who matter are too far left? Who is advocating for violent criminals to be out on the street? Which elected Democrats say crime is no big deal?

Because from where I sit, I see the police - generally a pretty conservative group - having gotten shirty that many people were calling for accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and those same police just decided they didn’t need to do their jobs. Then I watched the videos of police officers fail to do any policing when children were being mowed down while simultaneously preventing parents from rushing in to save their children. Then I think of the thousands of anecdotes I’ve read about the police just not doing their jobs - telling rape victims (in modern times!) they’re mistaken and that they’re not going to investigate, flat out ignoring calls of break ins and violent assaults on the street and you want to sit here and blame the Democrats because you can’t figure out that nobodies on Twitter mean nothing?

Or you want to go real broad strokes and whine about the border, the border that is absolutely not open or the broader issue of Republicans loving the red meat issue and the profits undocumented employers bring their donors?

I brought up the GOP and they’re harboring hundreds of criminals among the elected in their party upthread and I stand by that. That’s one entire party that openly supports crime and you want everyone to focus on the Democrats?

JFC. Save us from the “lifelong Dems” and “classic liberals” like Maher, aka conservatives.

Let's see....

"Defund the police." Sure, you can claim that Democrats don't want this, but it is DEMOCRATS - in Congress- who continue to beat this drum.
Abortion up until birth - It used to be Safe, legal, and rare - but it now has become something to celebrate. So, until elected Democrats can speak out on the limits of abortion, this is an extreme position.
Border policy - you can yap all you want about the border not being open - but the migrants who are coming, entering illegally, and being allowed to stay will tell you otherwise. Our border has NEVER - EVER - been this bad. And, our northern border is now seeing record number of encounters thanks to Joe's inaction.

These are just a few examples of how extreme the left has become... in addition to those discussed by Maher.

And, one last point - I will argue that it is the rhetoric and the policies of the left that have caused issues in law enforcement. Good people no longer want to do the job. They see how this profession is demonized and treated. Why work in a field where you are exposed to such crap?? So, many police forces are now facing a dwindling force and lowering their standards for new recruits.

The vast majority of the men and women who work in law enforcement are honorable and hard working people. Don't paint the entire profession with a broad brush. There are bad apples in EVERY profession.

Democrats have controlled at least one house for a while now, can you point to these defund the police bills that they've passed?

Democrats in the House haven't been successful in passing any bills. But, there are members who would like to.... particularly members of the squad. I could post video after video of them calling for defunding the police, but I will save you from that nauseating sight.

Many localities, have, however been successful in defunding the police. And, ironically (or not so ironically) these are some of the same localities that are struggling to maintain law and order. And, they are all run by Democrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community

[Anonymous]

Most Dems aren’t waving the restorative justice flag. This sweeping generalization is getting tiresome. It’s a Republican play. Start getting your criminals out of our House, not elected to committees, you fools. Gym pedo supporter, Mitch lying bastard McConnell, Santos, and all the pedos in your nasty party. Dems are sick of cleaning up your putrid mess. See, if it all burns down, we all go down. You’re not impervious. Just ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maher is still liberal. He’s just frustrated by how far left we’ve gone on certain issues. He’s not wrong, and we should listen instead of doubling down to defend problematic stances that republicans will use against us.

Signed,

Lifelong Dem

Like what, my dear? Which stances of Democrats who matter are too far left? Who is advocating for violent criminals to be out on the street? Which elected Democrats say crime is no big deal?

Because from where I sit, I see the police - generally a pretty conservative group - having gotten shirty that many people were calling for accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and those same police just decided they didn’t need to do their jobs. Then I watched the videos of police officers fail to do any policing when children were being mowed down while simultaneously preventing parents from rushing in to save their children. Then I think of the thousands of anecdotes I’ve read about the police just not doing their jobs - telling rape victims (in modern times!) they’re mistaken and that they’re not going to investigate, flat out ignoring calls of break ins and violent assaults on the street and you want to sit here and blame the Democrats because you can’t figure out that nobodies on Twitter mean nothing?

Or you want to go real broad strokes and whine about the border, the border that is absolutely not open or the broader issue of Republicans loving the red meat issue and the profits undocumented employers bring their donors?

I brought up the GOP and they’re harboring hundreds of criminals among the elected in their party upthread and I stand by that. That’s one entire party that openly supports crime and you want everyone to focus on the Democrats?

JFC. Save us from the “lifelong Dems” and “classic liberals” like Maher, aka conservatives.

Let's see....

"Defund the police." Sure, you can claim that Democrats don't want this, but it is DEMOCRATS - in Congress- who continue to beat this drum.
Abortion up until birth - It used to be Safe, legal, and rare - but it now has become something to celebrate. So, until elected Democrats can speak out on the limits of abortion, this is an extreme position.
Border policy - you can yap all you want about the border not being open - but the migrants who are coming, entering illegally, and being allowed to stay will tell you otherwise. Our border has NEVER - EVER - been this bad. And, our northern border is now seeing record number of encounters thanks to Joe's inaction.

These are just a few examples of how extreme the left has become... in addition to those discussed by Maher.

And, one last point - I will argue that it is the rhetoric and the policies of the left that have caused issues in law enforcement. Good people no longer want to do the job. They see how this profession is demonized and treated. Why work in a field where you are exposed to such crap?? So, many police forces are now facing a dwindling force and lowering their standards for new recruits.

The vast majority of the men and women who work in law enforcement are honorable and hard working people. Don't paint the entire profession with a broad brush. There are bad apples in EVERY profession.

Democrats have controlled at least one house for a while now, can you point to these defund the police bills that they've passed?

Democrats in the House haven't been successful in passing any bills. But, there are members who would like to.... particularly members of the squad. I could post video after video of them calling for defunding the police, but I will save you from that nauseating sight.

Many localities, have, however been successful in defunding the police. And, ironically (or not so ironically) these are some of the same localities that are struggling to maintain law and order. And, they are all run by Democrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community

So we're holding whole parties responsible for the policies of any given member? Are you saying republicans as a whole plan to discontinue social security and medicare?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy again, like he’s saying something fresh?

Yes, people belong in jail. I would argue that rapists and murderers should never see the light of freedom again, ever. I also don’t think anyone - perhaps you, OP - who doesn’t acknowledge racially disparate sentencing probably isn’t serious about crime.

But why rag on the Democrats when the GOP harbors legions of criminals, right in their own party’s leadership? They’re still shielding Trump from real consequences, and I’d argue that treason and sedition are some of the biggest crimes a person can commit.

Some people ALWAYS have to make it about Trump......


Yes, OP. Maher is right. And, it is an achilles heel for the Dems.

And, then we have stories like this...
This woman was a self proclaimed anarchist - who believes in the abolishment of the law & state and was tragically killed after trying to retrieve her property during a robbery. Jennifer Angel's GoFundMe says it hopes her killers aren't jailed. They want "restorative justice," whatever that is. The message stated, in part, not to “continue the cycle of harm by bringing state-sanctioned violence to those involved in her death or to other members of Oakland’s rich community.”
Her store had been damaged previously - a boulder thrown through the front window.

I am sorry this woman tragically died. She seems like a nice person. But, we don't treat people who break the law and are violent like this with kid gloves. They do what they do because all too often, there have not been serious consequences for their actions.
.

I read the story about her and don't understand why she fought to get her purse back. Given her beliefs, she should have let it go once it was selected to be taken. If she'd let it be, she'd be alive. And some level of justice would have been served.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maher is still liberal. He’s just frustrated by how far left we’ve gone on certain issues. He’s not wrong, and we should listen instead of doubling down to defend problematic stances that republicans will use against us.

Signed,

Lifelong Dem

Like what, my dear? Which stances of Democrats who matter are too far left? Who is advocating for violent criminals to be out on the street? Which elected Democrats say crime is no big deal?

Because from where I sit, I see the police - generally a pretty conservative group - having gotten shirty that many people were calling for accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and those same police just decided they didn’t need to do their jobs. Then I watched the videos of police officers fail to do any policing when children were being mowed down while simultaneously preventing parents from rushing in to save their children. Then I think of the thousands of anecdotes I’ve read about the police just not doing their jobs - telling rape victims (in modern times!) they’re mistaken and that they’re not going to investigate, flat out ignoring calls of break ins and violent assaults on the street and you want to sit here and blame the Democrats because you can’t figure out that nobodies on Twitter mean nothing?

Or you want to go real broad strokes and whine about the border, the border that is absolutely not open or the broader issue of Republicans loving the red meat issue and the profits undocumented employers bring their donors?

I brought up the GOP and they’re harboring hundreds of criminals among the elected in their party upthread and I stand by that. That’s one entire party that openly supports crime and you want everyone to focus on the Democrats?

JFC. Save us from the “lifelong Dems” and “classic liberals” like Maher, aka conservatives.

Let's see....

"Defund the police." Sure, you can claim that Democrats don't want this, but it is DEMOCRATS - in Congress- who continue to beat this drum.
Abortion up until birth - It used to be Safe, legal, and rare - but it now has become something to celebrate. So, until elected Democrats can speak out on the limits of abortion, this is an extreme position.
Border policy - you can yap all you want about the border not being open - but the migrants who are coming, entering illegally, and being allowed to stay will tell you otherwise. Our border has NEVER - EVER - been this bad. And, our northern border is now seeing record number of encounters thanks to Joe's inaction.

These are just a few examples of how extreme the left has become... in addition to those discussed by Maher.

And, one last point - I will argue that it is the rhetoric and the policies of the left that have caused issues in law enforcement. Good people no longer want to do the job. They see how this profession is demonized and treated. Why work in a field where you are exposed to such crap?? So, many police forces are now facing a dwindling force and lowering their standards for new recruits.

The vast majority of the men and women who work in law enforcement are honorable and hard working people. Don't paint the entire profession with a broad brush. There are bad apples in EVERY profession.

Democrats have controlled at least one house for a while now, can you point to these defund the police bills that they've passed?

Democrats in the House haven't been successful in passing any bills. But, there are members who would like to.... particularly members of the squad. I could post video after video of them calling for defunding the police, but I will save you from that nauseating sight.

Many localities, have, however been successful in defunding the police. And, ironically (or not so ironically) these are some of the same localities that are struggling to maintain law and order. And, they are all run by Democrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community

What kind of police funding is handled at the fed level?

[Anonymous]

Per capita crime is much higher in red states. Why aren't pro-gun GOP called out for it in the same manner?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maher is still liberal. He’s just frustrated by how far left we’ve gone on certain issues. He’s not wrong, and we should listen instead of doubling down to defend problematic stances that republicans will use against us.

Signed,

Lifelong Dem

Like what, my dear? Which stances of Democrats who matter are too far left? Who is advocating for violent criminals to be out on the street? Which elected Democrats say crime is no big deal?

Because from where I sit, I see the police - generally a pretty conservative group - having gotten shirty that many people were calling for accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and those same police just decided they didn’t need to do their jobs. Then I watched the videos of police officers fail to do any policing when children were being mowed down while simultaneously preventing parents from rushing in to save their children. Then I think of the thousands of anecdotes I’ve read about the police just not doing their jobs - telling rape victims (in modern times!) they’re mistaken and that they’re not going to investigate, flat out ignoring calls of break ins and violent assaults on the street and you want to sit here and blame the Democrats because you can’t figure out that nobodies on Twitter mean nothing?

Or you want to go real broad strokes and whine about the border, the border that is absolutely not open or the broader issue of Republicans loving the red meat issue and the profits undocumented employers bring their donors?

I brought up the GOP and they’re harboring hundreds of criminals among the elected in their party upthread and I stand by that. That’s one entire party that openly supports crime and you want everyone to focus on the Democrats?

JFC. Save us from the “lifelong Dems” and “classic liberals” like Maher, aka conservatives.

Let's see....

"Defund the police." Sure, you can claim that Democrats don't want this, but it is DEMOCRATS - in Congress- who continue to beat this drum.
Abortion up until birth - It used to be Safe, legal, and rare - but it now has become something to celebrate. So, until elected Democrats can speak out on the limits of abortion, this is an extreme position.
Border policy - you can yap all you want about the border not being open - but the migrants who are coming, entering illegally, and being allowed to stay will tell you otherwise. Our border has NEVER - EVER - been this bad. And, our northern border is now seeing record number of encounters thanks to Joe's inaction.

These are just a few examples of how extreme the left has become... in addition to those discussed by Maher.

And, one last point - I will argue that it is the rhetoric and the policies of the left that have caused issues in law enforcement. Good people no longer want to do the job. They see how this profession is demonized and treated. Why work in a field where you are exposed to such crap?? So, many police forces are now facing a dwindling force and lowering their standards for new recruits.

The vast majority of the men and women who work in law enforcement are honorable and hard working people. Don't paint the entire profession with a broad brush. There are bad apples in EVERY profession.

Democrats have controlled at least one house for a while now, can you point to these defund the police bills that they've passed?

Democrats in the House haven't been successful in passing any bills. But, there are members who would like to.... particularly members of the squad. I could post video after video of them calling for defunding the police, but I will save you from that nauseating sight.

Many localities, have, however been successful in defunding the police. And, ironically (or not so ironically) these are some of the same localities that are struggling to maintain law and order. And, they are all run by Democrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community

What kind of police funding is handled at the fed level?

The bill passed by the Dems (and opposed unanimously by the GOP) had significant federal funding for LEO offices nationwide.

Defund the police indeed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/21/police-funding-house-democrats/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Per capita crime is much higher in red states. Why aren't pro-gun GOP called out for it in the same manner?

Because it’s not a pithy sound bite and the American MSM is owned mostly by wealthy conservative businessmen who supported Donald Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maher is still liberal. He’s just frustrated by how far left we’ve gone on certain issues. He’s not wrong, and we should listen instead of doubling down to defend problematic stances that republicans will use against us.

Signed,

Lifelong Dem

Like what, my dear? Which stances of Democrats who matter are too far left? Who is advocating for violent criminals to be out on the street? Which elected Democrats say crime is no big deal?

Because from where I sit, I see the police - generally a pretty conservative group - having gotten shirty that many people were calling for accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and those same police just decided they didn’t need to do their jobs. Then I watched the videos of police officers fail to do any policing when children were being mowed down while simultaneously preventing parents from rushing in to save their children. Then I think of the thousands of anecdotes I’ve read about the police just not doing their jobs - telling rape victims (in modern times!) they’re mistaken and that they’re not going to investigate, flat out ignoring calls of break ins and violent assaults on the street and you want to sit here and blame the Democrats because you can’t figure out that nobodies on Twitter mean nothing?

Or you want to go real broad strokes and whine about the border, the border that is absolutely not open or the broader issue of Republicans loving the red meat issue and the profits undocumented employers bring their donors?

I brought up the GOP and they’re harboring hundreds of criminals among the elected in their party upthread and I stand by that. That’s one entire party that openly supports crime and you want everyone to focus on the Democrats?

JFC. Save us from the “lifelong Dems” and “classic liberals” like Maher, aka conservatives.

Let's see....

"Defund the police." Sure, you can claim that Democrats don't want this, but it is DEMOCRATS - in Congress- who continue to beat this drum.
Abortion up until birth - It used to be Safe, legal, and rare - but it now has become something to celebrate. So, until elected Democrats can speak out on the limits of abortion, this is an extreme position.
Border policy - you can yap all you want about the border not being open - but the migrants who are coming, entering illegally, and being allowed to stay will tell you otherwise. Our border has NEVER - EVER - been this bad. And, our northern border is now seeing record number of encounters thanks to Joe's inaction.

These are just a few examples of how extreme the left has become... in addition to those discussed by Maher.

And, one last point - I will argue that it is the rhetoric and the policies of the left that have caused issues in law enforcement. Good people no longer want to do the job. They see how this profession is demonized and treated. Why work in a field where you are exposed to such crap?? So, many police forces are now facing a dwindling force and lowering their standards for new recruits.

The vast majority of the men and women who work in law enforcement are honorable and hard working people. Don't paint the entire profession with a broad brush. There are bad apples in EVERY profession.

Democrats have controlled at least one house for a while now, can you point to these defund the police bills that they've passed?

Democrats in the House haven't been successful in passing any bills. But, there are members who would like to.... particularly members of the squad. I could post video after video of them calling for defunding the police, but I will save you from that nauseating sight.

Many localities, have, however been successful in defunding the police. And, ironically (or not so ironically) these are some of the same localities that are struggling to maintain law and order. And, they are all run by Democrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community

So we're holding whole parties responsible for the policies of any given member? Are you saying republicans as a whole plan to discontinue social security and medicare?

I refer you back to the title of this thread.
Maher is right. Democrats need to admit that yes, there are some people who need to go to jail. Some for a very long time. Until they agree that criminals deserve punishment and not merely "restorative justice," they will be continued to be viewed as soft on crime.
Democrat leaders in some of the big cities have implemented policies that have made those cities unlivable. And, prominent Democrats need to start admitting that and speaking out against it.