Working two fulltime jobs 100% remotely. Anyone done/doing this?
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Anonymous
Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards. |
Anonymous
If there's an expectation that you work during certain hours and you are working for someone else during those hours, that's fraudulent. Whether they can catch you is a different issue. If you only have deliverables and not specified work hours or expectations, maybe that's ok. When I was in college I had a job grading papers as a TA and a job manning a desk in the student employment center. So I graded papers while sitting at the desk. Of course if anyone showed up I'd stop and help them, but I chose the evening shift so that rarely happened. So I did both jobs simultaneously and of course got paid twice for the same hours. The thing is that I was actually working the whole time and everyone was fine with this arrangement. That would not have been the case if both jobs had actually required hourly work because by definition I then could not have done them both simultaneously. I was not actually shorting either employer. Most of the PPs scenarios cannot say the same. Also, I still felt icky about it even though everyone thought it was fine. |
Anonymous
Huh? I’ve always been an exempt employee and required to submit timesheets. Per our employee handbook, I’m expected to work 40 hours per week during regular business hours. No way would it be ethical to work a second overlapping job and then put down that I worked 40 hours for the first company. This may not be the expectation and standard in every job, but in most it is. Read your personnel manuals before engaging in this questionable conduct. People are legitimately getting fired over this stuff. |
Anonymous
So you want a job as a fiction writer? |
Anonymous
NP with a question - I’ve also always been exempt but needed to submit time and do at least 40 hours. However, usually/often it is more or much more than that. However, I never get any credit for the hours that I’m over 40 despite the fact that I can’t do less without taking leave. I thought the whole justification for salaried workers often doing more than 40 is that you hired to do a job not work prescribed hours. But if you can never balance the time and only can do more, why is that ok? |
Anonymous
| I know of someone who did this, but they very swiftly got fired from both jobs when Job A found out that they were working for Job B…which just so happened to be one of Job A’s clients. So definitely don’t do that. |
Anonymous
I have not filled out a time sheet ever. I do put in vacation days. According to the law. As an exempt employee I work 15 minutes or 15 hours I get paid the same. I did read my employee handbooks. Both say I will be generally available during “business hours” Whatever that means. I have 2 hours of required meetings one job an four hours required meetings other job. I hate meetings. However my one boss recently I figured out was realizing I never have staff meetings or one on ones. I don’t like reoccurring meetings. I do a chat or slack non work related with staff just so they know I am alive. Like hey how was your weekend. |
Anonymous
OP is talking about working all those jobs at the same time, at once, so yeah very illegal. |
Anonymous
First of all totally legal for exempt employees. Yes since “at will” could be fired. But concept of “same time” is dated. I had a staff go on a business trip this week. Flying out Monday Night, flying home late Wed night. Are those business hours. My staff member with two young kids who is off line everyday two hours due to kids. She jumps on line at other times. People in different time zones. Also what time zone? My one job a lot of people in UK start at 3:30am so I am not available as sleeping. I mean a lot of companies are open 24/7 - 7 days a week. A lot of people do project work and are fully remote. Boomers on here think we are punching time clocks at the factory |
Anonymous
Yes they do in some fields. Namely ones that care about billable hours. |
Anonymous
| OP, I don't believe you when you say you see posts all over social media about people bragging about their two jobs. People are not that stupid. |
Anonymous
Go to r/overemployed on Reddit |
Anonymous
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When your HR gives you the usual:
"wE GrEw tOo fAsT" and "rEcEsSiOn iS HiTtInG Us hArD" bullcrap. You be happy to have. j1, j2, j3. |
Anonymous
This is the correct answer. My parents' generation supported a family on one income - and baby boomer families had a huge number of kids! Today you need two incomes to support a small family. If everyone starts doing two jobs, in another 30 years people will have to deal with outrageous home prices, grocery prices, etc., with the need for multiple jobs to make ends meet. Your children and their children will hate you. |
Anonymous
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Go for it OP. I’m fully remote and I work 2 jobs.
I spend more time doing my first job and I make sure I do it well. It’s a software engineering job. I do the bare minimum at my second job. It’s a database admin job. I don’t care if I get fired. I have already been fired once. It was after 6 months. No problems. I found another one. Just rinse and and repeat. I’m 10 months into this second job, still a DB admin. I’m lucky that my boss works from the UK and we are on different time zones. I may last another 6 months or a year because I’m really doing the bare minimum to stay afloat. All earnings from my second job fully go into investment for my retirement. I’ll do this for another 5 years or more and retire early. |