Working two fulltime jobs 100% remotely. Anyone done/doing this?

[Anonymous]

My 25 years old son has been working two remote IT jobs since the pandemic '20. He works 12 hours everyday on the first job from 12pm until 12am, Sunday through Tuesday; he also works 12 hours on the second job from 12pm until 12am, Wednesday through Friday. Both of these jobs are to support security and system monitoring. He gets paid for a 40 hours work week even though he only works 36 hours. He makes 120K on the first job and 125K on the second, not including the 15% because he works the graveyard shift. His responsibility starts at the beginning of the shift and finishes at the end of the shift. About 50% of the people in his group have two jobs, and the employer knows that.

He and his wife are staying in a condo in Florida owned by us so they are saving both of his paycheck. My wife and I took care of the condo fee, car insurance and we also bought them a brand new RAV-4 as a wedding gift. Their only expense is food and they are both very frugal. He already has enough money to pay off his wife's medical school at 80K/year, his wife recently started medical school, but they want to have at least 500K in savings so he probably will continue working two jobs for another two years.


If you are young and are able to work two jobs, go for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m finding these stories to be fascinating. I wish I had the guts to do something like this.

Well, at least one person who’s been boasting about this may have gotten caught: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1108229.page

If you do it, you have to accept the very real possibility of losing both jobs. Some people are ok with that risk.

That me. J1 I kept after starting new job. I only planned to overlap a day or two in case offer letter pulled new job. After I started found out had to wait till 1st of next month for medical to kick in.Well that month ended I decided let’s see if I could make it another month. Next thing you know it is around six months ago.

Everyone is doing it

[Anonymous]

I'm kind of jealous. I could do my current job 24 hours a day and still never get through it all. I took off a few days for Christmas and work piled up so badly that I'm still digging out. I'm a fed and everyone thinks that we barely work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 25 years old son has been working two remote IT jobs since the pandemic '20. He works 12 hours everyday on the first job from 12pm until 12am, Sunday through Tuesday; he also works 12 hours on the second job from 12pm until 12am, Wednesday through Friday. Both of these jobs are to support security and system monitoring. He gets paid for a 40 hours work week even though he only works 36 hours. He makes 120K on the first job and 125K on the second, not including the 15% because he works the graveyard shift. His responsibility starts at the beginning of the shift and finishes at the end of the shift. About 50% of the people in his group have two jobs, and the employer knows that.

He and his wife are staying in a condo in Florida owned by us so they are saving both of his paycheck. My wife and I took care of the condo fee, car insurance and we also bought them a brand new RAV-4 as a wedding gift. Their only expense is food and they are both very frugal. He already has enough money to pay off his wife's medical school at 80K/year, his wife recently started medical school, but they want to have at least 500K in savings so he probably will continue working two jobs for another two years.


If you are young and are able to work two jobs, go for it.

Good for your son, and congrats, he has a good head on his shoulders. For me as a middle aged mom it's not a plausible way to keep up. When I was his age I used to work 16 hour days at one high paying job with lots of stress, travel, etc. Now, if people continue working 2 jobs paying lower wages, this also sets a horrible practice that can lead to lowering of wages across the board and directly screwing those people unable to work 12-`16 hour weeks consistently to get ahead of basic paycheck-to-paycheck living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of jealous. I could do my current job 24 hours a day and still never get through it all. I took off a few days for Christmas and work piled up so badly that I'm still digging out. I'm a fed and everyone thinks that we barely work.

I am with you, I don't seem to get lucky to land a job where I won't be accountable for delivering on every hour I work. I have to show results and show that I am busy. Employer's expectations, I noticed, are getting higher and not lower. IDK, where all these lucky people find low pressure 6 figure paying jobs done remotely with almost no deliverables and nobody bothering them.

[Anonymous]

I run a biz, and we work retainer/hourly work, and I've really struggled with this. I have staff who will work freelance doing work that competes with our work. We have non-competes signed at hire, but it also feels shitty to go after a 27 year old "hustling."

The most wild story was one staffer who was working 2 other full time jobs, and we realized she was barely clocking in any client time, so we offered to reduce her role to better fit her schedule. She eventually asked for a sabbatical after 6 months (among other wild things), and I let her go. She wasn't particularly broken up about it, and offered to freelance for us while I was firing her.

It's wild out here for a boss! I'm really struggling with how transactional my relationships should be with employees, and it seems very age-based. I'm GenX and I don't think they all need to be "please sir, may I have another (hour, project, etc)" of overtime, but the balance is a whole thing.

[Anonymous]

This is just chickens coming home to roost for corporate America. They’ve treated workers like widgets for centuries and the workers finally realized that there is no loyalty. Business owners and their lackey politicians are just reaping the system they built.

[Anonymous]

Because employers broke social contract and fire at will, cut benefits. cut raises. But costs keep rising.

For instance today some “body shop” contacted me in a 1099 project at $90 an hour. 35 hours a week just reviewing stuff.

That’s $163,800 a year since I am quick I could do job in 15-20 hours a week. I did not call back but why not.

And if you get canned crappy 1099 job who cares.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of jealous. I could do my current job 24 hours a day and still never get through it all. I took off a few days for Christmas and work piled up so badly that I'm still digging out. I'm a fed and everyone thinks that we barely work.

I am with you, I don't seem to get lucky to land a job where I won't be accountable for delivering on every hour I work. I have to show results and show that I am busy. Employer's expectations, I noticed, are getting higher and not lower. IDK, where all these lucky people find low pressure 6 figure paying jobs done remotely with almost no deliverables and nobody bothering them.

I took a huge pay cut to find a fully remote job in my field.

[Anonymous]

I love data entry. I always have. I have a data entry job that I get completed while doing my other job. I’ll do an hour of data entry to zone out and break up my work day. It is a job where you log in to assign yourself to projects so you can work as little or as much as you want, whenever you want. But once you accept a project you must meet the deadline.

I don’t make as much as at my full time job but it is more than pocket change. I made $34k last year. Could I live on that amount? No but it’s nice fun money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love data entry. I always have. I have a data entry job that I get completed while doing my other job. I’ll do an hour of data entry to zone out and break up my work day. It is a job where you log in to assign yourself to projects so you can work as little or as much as you want, whenever you want. But once you accept a project you must meet the deadline.

I don’t make as much as at my full time job but it is more than pocket change. I made $34k last year. Could I live on that amount? No but it’s nice fun money.

This sounds interesting. What site do you work on?

[Anonymous]

I think this is quite common in IT, DH is a 1099 guy and has 2 projects, each paying 350k, for last 3 years he has been making 700k. He is efficient and hardworking so it works. He knows lots of people who are doing the same but all the ones he knows are 1099.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Huh? I’ve always been an exempt employee and required to submit timesheets. Per our employee handbook, I’m expected to work 40 hours per week during regular business hours. No way would it be ethical to work a second overlapping job and then put down that I worked 40 hours for the first company.

This may not be the expectation and standard in every job, but in most it is. Read your personnel manuals before engaging in this questionable conduct. People are legitimately getting fired over this stuff.

NP with a question - I’ve also always been exempt but needed to submit time and do at least 40 hours. However, usually/often it is more or much more than that. However, I never get any credit for the hours that I’m over 40 despite the fact that I can’t do less without taking leave. I thought the whole justification for salaried workers often doing more than 40 is that you hired to do a job not work prescribed hours. But if you can never balance the time and only can do more, why is that ok?

Because they sc*ew you p and down with that system. My last full time job, I had to be sitting at my computer from 9-6 every day, and I also had to track the work I was doing in five minute increments. They didn't have enough work for me to do and somehow I was in trouble at the end of it. But on the days that I did have a lot to do, I sat there and did it until it was done, whatever time that was. It was really the worst of both worlds.

I am now self-employed and really struggling with the idea of giving anyone that kind of control over my time again, even though a nice remote job is being proposed for me.

Also OP is a ridiculous troll, and honestly the anti-WFH people sound more ridiculous and desperate by the day.

Are you in architecture perhaps? They are the worst for that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of jealous. I could do my current job 24 hours a day and still never get through it all. I took off a few days for Christmas and work piled up so badly that I'm still digging out. I'm a fed and everyone thinks that we barely work.

I am with you, I don't seem to get lucky to land a job where I won't be accountable for delivering on every hour I work. I have to show results and show that I am busy. Employer's expectations, I noticed, are getting higher and not lower. IDK, where all these lucky people find low pressure 6 figure paying jobs done remotely with almost no deliverables and nobody bothering them.

I took a huge pay cut to find a fully remote job in my field.

What field?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is quite common in IT, DH is a 1099 guy and has 2 projects, each paying 350k, for last 3 years he has been making 700k. He is efficient and hardworking so it works. He knows lots of people who are doing the same but all the ones he knows are 1099.

That’s kosher with 1099s though.