Yes, that is your privilege. Not all of us are so fortunate. |
Not PP, but I do think minorities, especially Latinos and African Americans, wouldn’t have the same customer service experience across the board that you take for granted. I think sometimes minorities are racially profiled as shoplifting risks, etc. if it doesn’t appear like they are wealthy. |
Yes, I’m AA and I an always deliberate about looking put together and stealth wealth signaling so that I get better/acceptable treatment. And it’s true, I’ve had (white) people go from not acknowledging me to asking me out to eat once they see a Bottega Veneta purse, or learning where I went to school, etc. it’s gross that it makes a difference, but it does. |
You’re very comfortable but get clothes from Target? Is it to save money or because you don’t care about clothing brands? Not trying to be judgmental, just genuinely curious. Once I made more money I bought nicer clothes since it’s not a big cost in the greater scheme of things anyways. |
Yes I'm a minority. Minorities with money are generally treated with more respect and consideration in our society. There is a correlation between racism, discrimination and poverty. Minorities from rich countries are more welcomed and treated better than minorities from poor countries. People like people with money. Society associates poor with being lazy, incapable, dumb, bad, whereas rich is associated with being smart, competent, hard working, good. Money is everything. |
This is what ex big law firm lawyers say when it’s clear that they weren’t on partner track. |
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You do not get respect. You are flashy and look silly. DP here. I grew up poor, around money - and money whispers. Brand names are to be worn inside the clothing, not outside. And 6" claws look like you are blowing money where you can't afford it, even if you can. Since you brought it up. Not everyone has the privileges you think they do. Those that actually do have the privileges do not have to shout it - literally or figuratively. I know plenty of very, very poor blonde white women who are the first in their family to go to college, but received zero scholarship money because they were white. It might not be your idea of the norm, but it happens. Be careful who you stereotype. |
Curious, how do you practice stealth wealth and look put together / wear a Bottega Veneta purse -- which I assume is expensive since you're mentioning the name. Sounds like a contradiction. |
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From a 2013 article - I wonder if the response now is even higher!
Across the board, people are increasingly sacrificing their personal relationships for the pursuit of wealth. The American Freshman survey has been tracking the values of college students since the mid-1960s. The survey is a good barometer of social and cultural change and it shows how far we've come in prioritizing material values over social ones. In 1965, college freshman said that “starting a family” and “helping others” were more important life goals than being “very well off financially.” By the eighties, it was the reverse: “helping others” and “starting a family” were less important to college freshman than making a lot of money. In 2012, freshmen prioritizing being “very well-off financially” peaked at 81 percent, the highest that number has been in the survey’s history. “My gut says making more money will make me happier,” Lieberman writes in the book, “but my gut is wrong … The more individuals endorse materialism as a positive life value, the less happy they are with their lives.” https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/10/social-connection-makes-a-better-brain/280934/ |
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In 2012, freshmen prioritizing being “very well-off financially” peaked at 81 percent, the highest that number has been in the survey’s history.
The latest (2019) survey has this being a high priority for 83.8% of survey takers. |
Target provides a pretty good value considering how poor the quality of expensive clothing is at this point. People compliment my clothes all the time and it’s often my pieces from target. |
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Very important. Security, freedom, opportunities for ourselves and children.
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+1. Target, TJ Maxx, Costco. I found that once we had a significant amount of money, I know longer care if people know. I carry a $25 no-name purse for TJ Maxx and drive an minivan, and it’s not knew. Buying stuff isn’t the thrill it once was. |
Just curious how much is a significant amount of money? My mom used to buy me clothes from TJ Maxx all the time as a kid and I don’t think I can ever fo back there because I can’t help but associate it with either being poor or super frugal… |