Better protocols needed to account for classified documents handled by political officials et Al …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) these files were under lock and key
2) they were marked and reported as soon as they were dsicovered
3) The administeros of the archive opened up the resources to ensure nothing else was amiss
4) there is no allegation that these documents were STOLEN

IOW, the Biden archives handled this properly.

Now, if you want to compare to Trump, be my guest.

You don't know if they turned them over when they discovered them. That's the party line.

They had those documents for six years. Any idea who saw them in that time?

"Under lock and key" is not a SCIF. These rationalizations ring hollow.

+1. My belief is that the Biden administration knew that Garland was going to issue the subpoena to Trump and the Biden team- knowing they would get caught up in this mess - just “happened” to find these documents just before Jack Smith was brought on.

The OP is right, we need a better handle on classified documents.

[Anonymous]

They found them in November. This was only disclosed after the house vote didn’t go their way. If there was a different speaker, we would have never been told.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They found them in November. This was only disclosed after the house vote didn’t go their way. If there was a different speaker, we would have never been told.

This makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilary, Trump, now Biden. Who is the librarian responsible for making sure documents particularly paper ones are returned. If Joe-schmoe government employee had docs at home, they’d be in deep trouble. What the heck??

I don’t know who that person is, but I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees a process problem.

You aren't bright enough to recognize sarcasm?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilary, Trump, now Biden. Who is the librarian responsible for making sure documents particularly paper ones are returned. If Joe-schmoe government employee had docs at home, they’d be in deep trouble. What the heck??

I don’t know who that person is, but I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees a process problem.

You aren't bright enough to recognize sarcasm?

Apparently you’re not bright enough to see the bait was not taken.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

This is not a better or worse comparison issue. Accidents happen. There are bureaucrats who have some explaining to do on how they are going to ensure that classified documents are returned.

Sir/Ma’am President/Senator/Congressperson, you checked out ABC documents and we see you have not returned them now that you no longer have a need to know. Please return them now. If you do not know where they are will we conduct a search….

Why is the process passive?? Someone should be proactively tracking these documents. Instead, it’s “oh sh!t, we didn’t know you had these documents.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) these files were under lock and key
2) they were marked and reported as soon as they were dsicovered
3) The administeros of the archive opened up the resources to ensure nothing else was amiss
4) there is no allegation that these documents were STOLEN

IOW, the Biden archives handled this properly.

Now, if you want to compare to Trump, be my guest.

You don't know if they turned them over when they discovered them. That's the party line.

They had those documents for six years. Any idea who saw them in that time?

"Under lock and key" is not a SCIF. These rationalizations ring hollow.

+1. My belief is that the Biden administration knew that Garland was going to issue the subpoena to Trump and the Biden team- knowing they would get caught up in this mess - just “happened” to find these documents just before Jack Smith was brought on.

The OP is right, we need a better handle on classified documents.

Or, as is more likely, the documents were under lock and key and no one even knew they were there.

[Anonymous]

Part of the problem is that the USA considers way too many documents to be classified. It's very challenging to secure so many. They should classify fewer, to guarantee the security of the really important docs.

And what just happened with Biden seals the deal on any consequences Trump might have received for his utter crap idiocies. The general public won't be able to differentiate between the two cases. No one will go to jail or face any repercussions.

[Anonymous]

The problem is politicians can’t really lose their jobs and clearances. There isn’t any repercussions. Look at Trump!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) these files were under lock and key
2) they were marked and reported as soon as they were dsicovered
3) The administeros of the archive opened up the resources to ensure nothing else was amiss
4) there is no allegation that these documents were STOLEN

IOW, the Biden archives handled this properly.

Now, if you want to compare to Trump, be my guest.

Under lock and key - as opposed to sitting in a random unlocked hallway room that anyone could have had access to, including the numerous known Russian and Chinese spies that have been spotted with free rein at Mar A Lago.

Biden did not have authority to take the documents. Yes, his team follows procedures when the documents were found and that is good. But the fact is that classified documents were in a folder labeled Personal outside a skif and were accessible by random people. The OP is correct. There needs to be a better process for this whole thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilary, Trump, now Biden. Who is the librarian responsible for making sure documents particularly paper ones are returned. If Joe-schmoe government employee had docs at home, they’d be in deep trouble. What the heck??

I don’t know who that person is, but I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees a process problem.

It’s a satire account.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They found them in November. This was only disclosed after the house vote didn’t go their way. If there was a different speaker, we would have never been told.

The existence of the documents in Biden’s office was disclosed to NARA and DOJ in November. It was recently disclosed publicly because someone leaked it to the press, so the news was going to break anyway.

Can you really not imagine when people with all good intentions might not want public disclosure of misplaced classified documents? The only reason the investigation of Trump became public knowledge is because Trump tweeted about it. Otherwise we still might not know about the subpoena and warrant for Mar-a-Lago, or that Trump is being criminally investigated for his handling of the documents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) these files were under lock and key
2) they were marked and reported as soon as they were dsicovered
3) The administeros of the archive opened up the resources to ensure nothing else was amiss
4) there is no allegation that these documents were STOLEN

IOW, the Biden archives handled this properly.

Now, if you want to compare to Trump, be my guest.

Under lock and key - as opposed to sitting in a random unlocked hallway room that anyone could have had access to, including the numerous known Russian and Chinese spies that have been spotted with free rein at Mar A Lago.

Biden did not have authority to take the documents. Yes, his team follows procedures when the documents were found and that is good. But the fact is that classified documents were in a folder labeled Personal outside a skif and were accessible by random people. The OP is correct. There needs to be a better process for this whole thing.

You don’t know that Biden took them or knew they were in his office. If someone else packed them up in boxes with other papers and then put them in a locked closet, Biden may not have been aware of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. What does Joe have to say now?

I don’t care if he was folding them into paper airplanes and flying them out of the window of the presidential limousine. He’s not trump and that’s all the matters. I literally DO NOT CARE about whatever you oafs accuse him of.

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