I am fat and hate it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t come to DCUM for advice. It will be 99% bad.

What is the 1% that's correct? Since you seem to know that 99% is "bad".

The 1% that is correct is that permanent long-term weight loss is very difficult and that OP would be better off talking with a variety of experts, understanding at the same time that a lot of nutritionists and personal trainers are wildly ignorant, and that a lot of doctors are ignorant and motivated by keeping income coming in.

In other words, what is true is that the state of advice for long-term, sustainable weight loss is grim. OPs best option is to carefully find professionals she trusts who can evaluate her individual situation. In her case it will need to include a weight-aware psychiatrist given how OP gained the weight. She also needs a comprehensive blood work-up, and an evaluation for insulin resistance and possibly for pre-diabetes.

Most of DCUM’s advice on weight loss is shockingly stupid.

Well I guess a lot of shockingly stupid weight loss advice is actually working for a lot of us. So no, not grim. and no, not only the 1%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cut out all sugar, flour, white rice and potatoes. No seed oils. An anti inflammatory, low glycemic diet is the way to go. Exercise daily.

I eat 4 slices of bread with jelly for pre workout breakfast, 80g oatmeal for post workout breakfast, french bread as a morning snack, 200g of white rice with lunch, avocado toast for afternoon snack, 200g white rice with dinner, and 150g fruit for dessert. I’ll let you guess how fat I am.

Carbs are fuel. Diet depends on activity level. Stop the nonsense and eat in a well balanced deficit over several months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no secret. Cut back on your eating and work out.

This. It is the ONLY way.

Now what methods you use to do that may differ depending on your needs. Maybe you needs meds or surgery in order to consistently eat less. If you do- do that. Baby steps with exercise. Start with low level exercise like walking on incline if you aren’t use to any. Increase intensity and add strength training as you build stamina and get stronger.

Actually many women are losing on Ozempic with little effort. Thinner than their friends now who have to restrict and work out 2x a day. Winning.

You are “winning” bc you need to take a med so you don’t keep overeating?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I eat 4 slices of bread with jelly for pre workout breakfast, 80g oatmeal for post workout breakfast, french bread as a morning snack, 200g of white rice with lunch, avocado toast for afternoon snack, 200g white rice with dinner, and 150g fruit for dessert. I’ll let you guess how fat I am.

Carbs are fuel. Diet depends on activity level. Stop the nonsense and eat in a well balanced deficit over several months.

PP really? I don't know -- 4 pieces of toast b4 your breakfast?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no secret. Cut back on your eating and work out.

This. It is the ONLY way.

Now what methods you use to do that may differ depending on your needs. Maybe you needs meds or surgery in order to consistently eat less. If you do- do that. Baby steps with exercise. Start with low level exercise like walking on incline if you aren’t use to any. Increase intensity and add strength training as you build stamina and get stronger.

Actually many women are losing on Ozempic with little effort. Thinner than their friends now who have to restrict and work out 2x a day. Winning.

You are “winning” bc you need to take a med so you don’t keep overeating?

This. What happens when you stop taking it? I think we all know the answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I eat 4 slices of bread with jelly for pre workout breakfast, 80g oatmeal for post workout breakfast, french bread as a morning snack, 200g of white rice with lunch, avocado toast for afternoon snack, 200g white rice with dinner, and 150g fruit for dessert. I’ll let you guess how fat I am.

Carbs are fuel. Diet depends on activity level. Stop the nonsense and eat in a well balanced deficit over several months.

PP really? I don't know -- 4 pieces of toast b4 your breakfast?

Yes, pre workout. Breakfast is after workout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ozempic/Wegovy/Mounjaro or weight loss surgery

Start with the semaglutides. They really are a miracle. I’ve lost over 20 lbs with relatively no effort and minimal side effects from the drug since May. I was prediabetic, and am taking Ozempic. It’s a game changer.

These are the class of drugs you need to take for a lifetime though, right? I know SO MANY people, some just moderately over weight, doing all they can to get this stuff and none seem to have a long term plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t come to DCUM for advice. It will be 99% bad.

What is the 1% that's correct? Since you seem to know that 99% is "bad".

The 1% that is correct is that permanent long-term weight loss is very difficult and that OP would be better off talking with a variety of experts, understanding at the same time that a lot of nutritionists and personal trainers are wildly ignorant, and that a lot of doctors are ignorant and motivated by keeping income coming in.

In other words, what is true is that the state of advice for long-term, sustainable weight loss is grim. OPs best option is to carefully find professionals she trusts who can evaluate her individual situation. In her case it will need to include a weight-aware psychiatrist given how OP gained the weight. She also needs a comprehensive blood work-up, and an evaluation for insulin resistance and possibly for pre-diabetes.

Most of DCUM’s advice on weight loss is shockingly stupid.

Well I guess a lot of shockingly stupid weight loss advice is actually working for a lot of us. So no, not grim. and no, not only the 1%

Unless you have maintained significant weight loss for 5+ years, your opinion is irrelevant, and probably shockingly dumb, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no secret. Cut back on your eating and work out.

This. It is the ONLY way.

Now what methods you use to do that may differ depending on your needs. Maybe you needs meds or surgery in order to consistently eat less. If you do- do that. Baby steps with exercise. Start with low level exercise like walking on incline if you aren’t use to any. Increase intensity and add strength training as you build stamina and get stronger.

Actually many women are losing on Ozempic with little effort. Thinner than their friends now who have to restrict and work out 2x a day. Winning.

You are “winning” bc you need to take a med so you don’t keep overeating?

This. What happens when you stop taking it? I think we all know the answer.

NP. At worst, the same thing that would happen if OP didn’t take Ozempic and followed the largely idiotic advice dispensed on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no secret. Cut back on your eating and work out.

This.

But mainly eat less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cut out all sugar, flour, white rice and potatoes. No seed oils. An anti inflammatory, low glycemic diet is the way to go. Exercise daily.

I eat 4 slices of bread with jelly for pre workout breakfast, 80g oatmeal for post workout breakfast, french bread as a morning snack, 200g of white rice with lunch, avocado toast for afternoon snack, 200g white rice with dinner, and 150g fruit for dessert. I’ll let you guess how fat I am.

Carbs are fuel. Diet depends on activity level. Stop the nonsense and eat in a well balanced deficit over several months.

Are you the neurotic man that does extreme exercising? If so, clearly what you and what your diet is isn’t applicable here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cut out all sugar, flour, white rice and potatoes. No seed oils. An anti inflammatory, low glycemic diet is the way to go. Exercise daily.

I eat 4 slices of bread with jelly for pre workout breakfast, 80g oatmeal for post workout breakfast, french bread as a morning snack, 200g of white rice with lunch, avocado toast for afternoon snack, 200g white rice with dinner, and 150g fruit for dessert. I’ll let you guess how fat I am.

Carbs are fuel. Diet depends on activity level. Stop the nonsense and eat in a well balanced deficit over several months.

So, Exhibit 4,291,392 that DCUMs weight management advice is idiotic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no secret. Cut back on your eating and work out.

This. It is the ONLY way.

Now what methods you use to do that may differ depending on your needs. Maybe you needs meds or surgery in order to consistently eat less. If you do- do that. Baby steps with exercise. Start with low level exercise like walking on incline if you aren’t use to any. Increase intensity and add strength training as you build stamina and get stronger.

Actually many women are losing on Ozempic with little effort. Thinner than their friends now who have to restrict and work out 2x a day. Winning.

You are “winning” bc you need to take a med so you don’t keep overeating?

Um— yeah. If there are medical reasons for your weight gain, then taking a medication that will reduce it is definitely winning.

The people saying that all overweight people need to do is eat less and exercise more are similar to people who tell the clinically depressed that all they need to do is just cheer up.

For most obese people, it’s about body chemistry, not willpower.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no secret. Cut back on your eating and work out.

This. It is the ONLY way.

Now what methods you use to do that may differ depending on your needs. Maybe you needs meds or surgery in order to consistently eat less. If you do- do that. Baby steps with exercise. Start with low level exercise like walking on incline if you aren’t use to any. Increase intensity and add strength training as you build stamina and get stronger.

Actually many women are losing on Ozempic with little effort. Thinner than their friends now who have to restrict and work out 2x a day. Winning.

You are “winning” bc you need to take a med so you don’t keep overeating?

This. What happens when you stop taking it? I think we all know the answer.

What is your point, PP? If you’re hypertensive and you stop taking your blood pressure meds, you’ll become hypertensive again. If you’re diabetic, and you stop taking insulin, really bad things will happen. Yes, there are some medication‘s that some people will need to take throughout their lives. Why is oh Simpich any different from any other drug that people may take long term for medical reasons?

[Anonymous]

^ *Ozempic. Sorry, dictating.