The American universities that BOTH Americans AND non-Americans think of as the most prestigious

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Global prestige and recognition is what splits the top tier universities - HYPSM, Caltech, Columbia, maybe Berkeley - and the next tier of Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, etc.

U. Chicago is a weird case. Within academia, high levels of government and the top firms in industry, it's considered easily top tier. But its name recognition is much lower both nationally and globally, and name recognition affects prestige.

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Ok

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Anonymous wrote:Global prestige and recognition is what splits the top tier universities - HYPSM, Caltech, Columbia, maybe Berkeley - and the next tier of Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, etc.

U. Chicago is a weird case. Within academia, high levels of government and the top firms in industry, it's considered easily top tier. But its name recognition is much lower both nationally and globally, and name recognition affects prestige.

+1.

I would bump Caltech down to the next tier though.

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Anonymous wrote:as an immigrant who knows a lot of foreigners i find NYU and northwestern kinda out of place here. I don't think there is that much name recognition for these.

This +1000. NYU and Northwestern are not considered prestigious.

Don't know what you're smoking. Northwestern is prestigious, full stop. NYU is prestigious to an extent as well.

Yes, but Northeastern is famous for gaming the system.

NorthWESTERN, not NEU, which has no business in this conversation. Stop trolling please.

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Anonymous wrote:NYU is not even T25

Huge international student body, though. The educate the children of wealthy elites in Asia, Middle East, and Africa. NYU has currency overseas, for better or worse, and a growing foreign alumni network.

Title says both.
To Americans, NYU is barely T30
Why is it there in the first place

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get University of Washington either - especially since the UK visa program omits top lacs which are more prestigious than some on the list.

NYU is prestigious and has some absolutely world-class top programs (business, arts, law, medical school). It doesn’t get much love on DCUM but it’s an amazing university.

Highly-ranked (#6 on the US News ranking - this thread is about rankings afterall) computer science department with tons of funding from the enormous tech wealth in the region. The late Paul Allen was a major donor and the school is named after him. Clearly the UK wants to tap into that talent.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get University of Washington either - especially since the UK visa program omits top lacs which are more prestigious than some on the list.

NYU is prestigious and has some absolutely world-class top programs (business, arts, law, medical school). It doesn’t get much love on DCUM but it’s an amazing university.

Highly-ranked (#6 on the US News ranking - this thread is about rankings afterall) computer science department with tons of funding from the enormous tech wealth in the region. The late Paul Allen was a major donor and the school is named after him. Clearly the UK wants to tap into that talent.

The focus here is mailnly undergraduate ranking not law or medical.
Stern is highly respected. Art is art.
Other than that NYU is not evern T25 for undergrad in general.

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I guess I have to ask -- why would anyone care what people outside the US thought? No one cares even if you pursue an international career. -- they do not get the US college system. So is there a Harvard bump -- sure but not a signficant one. Two they know nothing because they are too far removed. Three views on higher education outside the US are off.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm under the impression that UCLA is known world-wide, because of football (basically, they get recognition from being on TV). And also in Asia where they have a strong presence.

Ummm no. Their football sucks and they are hardly ever on TV. They are known because they are in LA which is in Cali which is the US for most of Asia and because they are a top notch research school.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I have to ask -- why would anyone care what people outside the US thought? No one cares even if you pursue an international career. -- they do not get the US college system. So is there a Harvard bump -- sure but not a signficant one. Two they know nothing because they are too far removed. Three views on higher education outside the US are off.

It matters for people who have links abroad, whether that's family, friends, work, etc. Many many international students in the U.S. for whom this information is pertinent.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm under the impression that UCLA is known world-wide, because of football (basically, they get recognition from being on TV). And also in Asia where they have a strong presence.

I could get behind that. Add Georgetown, too.

LMFAO nobody cares about american-football and any of the collge sports outside of the US.
NBA and MLB(in some parts) are wached a bit, but the world ouside of the US mainly watch soccer.
You guys sound like a big frog in a small pond LOL

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Harvard
Yale
Stanford
MIT
Princeton
Columbia
UChicago
Northwestern
Duke
UPenn
Cornell
Caltech
Berkeley
UCLA
Georgetown
NYU

These are basically the only US colleges with global prestige.

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Michigan has global prestige. They are ranked in the top 25 at both THE and QS rankings, the two most well know. Even Berkeley and UCLA cannot say that. Georgetown does not belong on the list.

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Here is a list that reflects prestige in the UK:

https://www.businessinsider.com/graduates-top-us-universities-colleges-uk-visa-without-job-offer-2022-5

Included on the list are the following 20 US universities, in alphabetical order:

California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Duke University
Harvard University
Johns Hopkins University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
New York University
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of Chicago
University of Michigan
University of Pennsylvania
University of Texas at Austin
University of Washington
Yale University

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a list that reflects prestige in the UK:

https://www.businessinsider.com/graduates-top-us-universities-colleges-uk-visa-without-job-offer-2022-5

Included on the list are the following 20 US universities, in alphabetical order:

California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Duke University
Harvard University
Johns Hopkins University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
New York University
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of Chicago
University of Michigan
University of Pennsylvania
University of Texas at Austin
University of Washington
Yale University

I graduated from Oxbridge. Most people in the UK either don't know or don't care about 3/4 of the schools on this list.