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Someone else sent me this, which I'm pasting here:
I stumbled across a Forbes article titled "Presidential Cabinets Have Been Dominated By College Elites Long Before Joe Biden And Donald Trump. Why That’s A Problem" yesterday, and I made note of this paragraph: "Bower-Bir coded the colleges these senior appointees attended as being either “elite” or “common.” The elite schools included the eight universities in the Ivy League (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Pennsylvania, Harvard, Princeton, Yale) plus 17 others determined through commonly understood academic groupings and a scientific survey of the American public (Duke, Georgetown, U. Chicago, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Cambridge, London School of Economics, Oxford, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Boston College, Boston University, Carnegie Mellon, New York University, Northwestern, Stanford and U. California, Berkeley). “Common” schools were simply everyplace else." Additionally, the UK government implemented earlier this year its "high potential" immigrant program by giving 2-year open work visas for everyone graduating with an undergrad or grad degree from a pre-selected group of universities. Here are the American ones: California Institute of Technology Columbia University Cornell University Duke University Harvard University Johns Hopkins University Massachusetts Institute of Technology New York University Northwestern University Princeton University Stanford University University of California, Berkeley University of California, Los Angeles University of California, San Diego University of Chicago University of Michigan-Ann Arbor University of Pennsylvania University of Texas at Austin University of Washington Yale University Here are the universities that appear on both lists, and these are the universities that BOTH the American public AND people outside of America think of as the most prestigious: Six universities in the Ivy League: Harvard University Yale University Princeton University Columbia University University of Pennsylvania Cornell University Eight universities not in the Ivy League: Stanford University Massachusetts Institute of Technology Duke University University of Chicago Johns Hopkins University Northwestern University University of California, Berkeley New York University Feel free to discuss. |
| Who cares? Really. Enough with the prestige porn. Let it go. |
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Yes, they are the most recognized. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I acknowledge that. I also know you can have a good education elsewhere. |
| yes sounds right. |
| The rest of the world is not monolith. I’ve been very surprised by, for example, how deeply knowledgeable south Asians are about American STEM program reputation. |
+1. Why does this person keep posting lists? |
Agree. It really is a sickness. |
| Seems like relevant info for people who might consider studying or working or living internationally... |
| Is it one person on this list serve who keeps posting over and over about school prestige and rankings? So tiresome |
Not really helpful info. It’s very general and lumps the world together. Also, who cares about prestige? Yuck. |
| NYU is not even T25 |
| as an immigrant who knows a lot of foreigners i find NYU and northwestern kinda out of place here. I don't think there is that much name recognition for these. |
NYU is fine. Certainly similar to Northwestern or Berkeley in prestige. Particularly in Asia and for those in finance, it is prestigious. |
Northwestern is definitely more prestigious than NYU. Berkeley, too, especially on the West Coast. |
| I'm under the impression that UCLA is known world-wide, because of football (basically, they get recognition from being on TV). And also in Asia where they have a strong presence. |