Red states recover faster than blue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people last about 5 years in Fla before they realize what they gave up in the north. Then if they are young and not on probation, they move. If they are old they are stuck until they die. Neither is economically reliable. Then Florida falls into a slump until the next boom of suckers trying to relive their childhood dreams.

-Florida native

I have heard similar about people who move down there when they first retire but this is different now. I know a lot of families who have moved to Florida in the past decade. This was long before retirement and all before covid. All are happy and none are leaving. They say it’s a great place to raise their families, contrary to what you read about the schools here. I admit, I’m jealous of their lives every time I visit.

Summers are unbearable. And with global warming (a term DeSantis tut tuts), why move to a place where the heat is going to get even worse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No they don't. It's been 150 years since they lost the Civil War, and the Confederate States are still full of racist hicks telling each other tall tales about the Lost Cause. That's not a quick recovery.

Ah. Someone didn't bother to read the article and just wants to nurse old grievances. Bye, now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people last about 5 years in Fla before they realize what they gave up in the north. Then if they are young and not on probation, they move. If they are old they are stuck until they die. Neither is economically reliable. Then Florida falls into a slump until the next boom of suckers trying to relive their childhood dreams.

-Florida native

I have heard similar about people who move down there when they first retire but this is different now. I know a lot of families who have moved to Florida in the past decade. This was long before retirement and all before covid. All are happy and none are leaving. They say it’s a great place to raise their families, contrary to what you read about the schools here. I admit, I’m jealous of their lives every time I visit.

DP. I agree - we know tons of families who have moved to Florida and all love it. I wish I enjoyed hot weather more - I'd be all for moving there too.

Same for us. Families who have moved to either Florida or SC.

I don’t love the heat, so I won’t go that far south, but it does sound appealing.

[Anonymous]

Maybe if the red states recover some more they’ll stop being such welfare leeches on the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe if the red states recover some more they’ll stop being such welfare leeches on the rest of us.

Indeed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How unsurprising. Now that people can live wherever they WANT to live and work remotely, millions have moved to red states to do so.

By many mea­sures, red states—those that lean Re­pub­li­can—have re­cov­ered faster eco­nom­i­cally than De­mo­c­ra­tic-lean­ing blue ones, with work­ers and em­ploy­ers mov­ing from the coasts to the mid­dle of the coun­try and Flor­ida.

Since Feb­ruary 2020, the month be­fore the pan­demic be­gan, the share of all U.S. jobs lo­cated in red states has grown by more than half a per­cent­age point, ac­cord­ing to an analy­sis of La­bor De­part­ment data by the Brook­ings In­sti­tu­tion think tank. Red states have added 341,000 jobs over that time, while blue states were still short 1.3 mil­lion jobs as of May.

Sev­eral ma­jor com­pa­nies have re­cently an­nounced moves of their head­quar­ters from blue to red states. Hedge-fund com­pany Citadel said re­cently it would move its head­quar­ters from Chicago to Mi­ami, and Cater­pil­lar Inc. plans to move from Illi­nois to Texas.

To track each state’s progress to­ward nor­mal since the pan­demic be­gan, Moody’s An­a­lyt­ics de­vel-oped an in­dex of 13 met­rics, in­clud­ing the value of goods and ser­vices pro­duced, em­ploy­ment, re­tail sales and new-home list­ings. Eleven of the 15 states with the high­est read­ings through mid-June were red. Eight of the bot­tom 10 were blue.

The states that gained the most, led by Flor­ida, Texas and North Car­olina, are al­most all red, as de­fined by the Cook Po­lit­i­cal Re­port based on how states voted in the past two pres­i­den­tial elec­tions. The states that lost the most res­i­dents are al­most all blue, led by Cal­i­for­nia, New York and Illi­nois.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/red-states-winning-post-pandemic-economy-migration-11657030536

Hopefully they are moving to GA to make it more blue.

NC will take awhile, but by 2032 it will be a tossup state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok. Glad they recovered! Don’t want any state to do poorly. Guess that’s where we differ. Stop making every topic divisive, OP.

So those states will be purple now?

This is the assumption. I lived in a blue state and moved to a purple state. I voted mostly D, but anticipate I will be voting mostly R in the midterms and 2024. I dont know how this would register in any polls because I am a presumed Democratic voter.

[Anonymous]

Of course if there is migration from blue to red, then perhaps that will continue the liberalization of cities in red states and start to turn those states blue:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/american-migration-patterns-should-terrify-gop/598153/

[Anonymous]

On a per capita basis red states did far worse than blue states during the pandemic, so it stands to reason they would have more to recover. Texas still lags far behind the national unemployment rate.

As for companies moving there, sure some companies definitely like the idea of red states whoring themselves out with cheap labor, less care about the environment, and so on. That's a win for companies. Not for people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

Freedom???? Where have you been the past couple of weeks? There’s no freedom for any female capable of bearing children anymore in those states.

[Anonymous]

Schools are going to be a mess tho. No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

Freedom???? Where have you been the past couple of weeks? There’s no freedom for any female capable of bearing children anymore in those states.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

It’s much more likely this had to do with housing prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No they don't. It's been 150 years since they lost the Civil War, and the Confederate States are still full of racist hicks telling each other tall tales about the Lost Cause. That's not a quick recovery.

Ah. Someone didn't bother to read the article and just wants to nurse old grievances. Bye, now.

DP... Nothing in the article negates the reality that toxic neoconfederate sentiments still pollute the South and it is they who still dwell on old grievances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

It’s much more likely this had to do with housing prices.

We are in the cohort of people who moved from a blue state. Housing prices were a perk, but like every other major life decisions, there were a host of factors. The prime reason is that we believe it will benefit our kids to grow up in an environment different from the DC suburbs, and yes, the covid restrictions weighed heavily. Although the restrictions were lifted, it was very damaging to the youth and I worry they will suffer academically and emotionally for a long time.