Red states recover faster than blue

[Anonymous]

Most people last about 5 years in Fla before they realize what they gave up in the north. Then if they are young and not on probation, they move. If they are old they are stuck until they die. Neither is economically reliable. Then Florida falls into a slump until the next boom of suckers trying to relive their childhood dreams.

-Florida native

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably because they had the most to gain. If any company relocates to FL they are crazy. Unless they want to be a part of the grift and suck DeSantis's tit.

Except this doesn’t really fit your narrative. Sorry to be the bearer of good news:

“The move­ment is al­ready start­ing to af­fect state economies and fi­nances. Flor­ida is on track to reg­is­ter a record bud­get sur­plus for the fis­cal year that ended June 30, which it at­trib­utes in part to new res­i­dents. The state is putting most of the ex­tra money into a re­serve fund to pro­tect state agen­cies and res­i­dents dur­ing the next down-turn, while in­vest­ing in school con­struc­tion and rais­ing teacher pay, a spokes­woman for Flor­ida Gov. Ron De­San­tis said.”

Nicely done, DeSantis.

LOL. California has a $100 Billion budget surplus this year, also historic and about 10X that of Florida.

But it’s *California*. Any idea why people might be fleeing in droves??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those states have the lowest labor participation rates in the country. Of course their unemployment is lower, so many people aren't even looking for jobs.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/labor-force-participation-rate-by-sex

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably because they had the most to gain. If any company relocates to FL they are crazy. Unless they want to be a part of the grift and suck DeSantis's tit.

Except this doesn’t really fit your narrative. Sorry to be the bearer of good news:

“The move­ment is al­ready start­ing to af­fect state economies and fi­nances. Flor­ida is on track to reg­is­ter a record bud­get sur­plus for the fis­cal year that ended June 30, which it at­trib­utes in part to new res­i­dents. The state is putting most of the ex­tra money into a re­serve fund to pro­tect state agen­cies and res­i­dents dur­ing the next down-turn, while in­vest­ing in school con­struc­tion and rais­ing teacher pay, a spokes­woman for Flor­ida Gov. Ron De­San­tis said.”

Nicely done, DeSantis.

LOL. California has a $100 Billion budget surplus this year, also historic and about 10X that of Florida.

But it’s *California*. Any idea why people might be fleeing in droves??

People cash in and retire in cheaper places, always been the case. CA is not adding as many new immigrants as before so the underlying retirement trend is exposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those states have the lowest labor participation rates in the country. Of course their unemployment is lower, so many people aren't even looking for jobs.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/labor-force-participation-rate-by-sex

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/release/tables?rid=446&eid=784070

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably because they had the most to gain. If any company relocates to FL they are crazy. Unless they want to be a part of the grift and suck DeSantis's tit.

Except this doesn’t really fit your narrative. Sorry to be the bearer of good news:

“The move­ment is al­ready start­ing to af­fect state economies and fi­nances. Flor­ida is on track to reg­is­ter a record bud­get sur­plus for the fis­cal year that ended June 30, which it at­trib­utes in part to new res­i­dents. The state is putting most of the ex­tra money into a re­serve fund to pro­tect state agen­cies and res­i­dents dur­ing the next down-turn, while in­vest­ing in school con­struc­tion and rais­ing teacher pay, a spokes­woman for Flor­ida Gov. Ron De­San­tis said.”

Nicely done, DeSantis.

Never mind the other PP’s description being completely disrespectful to women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people last about 5 years in Fla before they realize what they gave up in the north. Then if they are young and not on probation, they move. If they are old they are stuck until they die. Neither is economically reliable. Then Florida falls into a slump until the next boom of suckers trying to relive their childhood dreams.

-Florida native

I have heard similar about people who move down there when they first retire but this is different now. I know a lot of families who have moved to Florida in the past decade. This was long before retirement and all before covid. All are happy and none are leaving. They say it’s a great place to raise their families, contrary to what you read about the schools here. I admit, I’m jealous of their lives every time I visit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people last about 5 years in Fla before they realize what they gave up in the north. Then if they are young and not on probation, they move. If they are old they are stuck until they die. Neither is economically reliable. Then Florida falls into a slump until the next boom of suckers trying to relive their childhood dreams.

-Florida native

This is demonstrably not true based on the flows of people into the state. A few maybe, but most? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

When you have time, I suggest you take your head out of the two mile sand hole where is now. You will learn than even in deep deep blue DC remote learning ended in May 2021 and the last school year was entirely in person, even through the Omicron surge. But I am sure many people fled to Arkansas and Alabama or Oklahoma for their schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

I love the freedom that Texas gives women over their own bodies.

Versus the blue cities, like Los Angeles and NYC, who unethically pushed Covid vaccines on 12 year olds to attend public school.

No freedom for our families and our kids, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people last about 5 years in Fla before they realize what they gave up in the north. Then if they are young and not on probation, they move. If they are old they are stuck until they die. Neither is economically reliable. Then Florida falls into a slump until the next boom of suckers trying to relive their childhood dreams.

-Florida native

I have heard similar about people who move down there when they first retire but this is different now. I know a lot of families who have moved to Florida in the past decade. This was long before retirement and all before covid. All are happy and none are leaving. They say it’s a great place to raise their families, contrary to what you read about the schools here. I admit, I’m jealous of their lives every time I visit.

DP. I agree - we know tons of families who have moved to Florida and all love it. I wish I enjoyed hot weather more - I'd be all for moving there too.

[Anonymous]

A lot of Boomer professionals have retired in the past 2 years. Probably a lot more on the East and West Coasts than in the South and Great Plains. There is a serious labor shortage in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. Not sure how it compares to other regions.

[Anonymous]

No they don't. It's been 150 years since they lost the Civil War, and the Confederate States are still full of racist hicks telling each other tall tales about the Lost Cause. That's not a quick recovery.

[Anonymous]

Blue states had more to “recover”. When a hurricane hits a mansion and a shack, the shack can be fixed quicker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blue states had more to “recover”. When a hurricane hits a mansion and a shack, the shack can be fixed quicker.

+1. And “recovered” in Mississippi looks like a starting place to recovery for most blue states.