With Duncan Gone, Who Supports the Foxhall Schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.

If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


In 2006, it was an 8 person race and cheh ended up with around 45% of the vote.

This race will be like that. Goulet and Frumin will get around 65% of the vote, and everyone else will split the rest.
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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.


I'm going to vote Frumin. Goulet has an impressive operation with tons of volunteers and money. I'm worried he will win and derail the school plan in deference to the NIMBY Palisades ppl and charter school pushers who funded him


I've spent a lot of time around the ward in the past couple of weeks. I've seen Frumin volunteers, Duncan volunteers, Bergman volunteers. I even saw Phil Thomas out late at night putting up road signs. I've never seen a Goulet volunteer.

I'll concede he has plenty of money. That's kind of the problem, actually.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.

This is hot garbage. If you are a true YIMBY he’s the only one in the race worth voting for and he has a real chance to win if all
YIMBYs would stop with a this 8th dimensional chess and vote for who represents the policies they support.


Finley has 153 in-Ward supporters, ie people who will actually vote for him: https://dcgeekery.com/dc-campaign-finance/2022/council-ward-3/finley/points

How is that viable in a race where something like 13,000 people will vote?
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Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.

This is hot garbage. If you are a true YIMBY he’s the only one in the race worth voting for and he has a real chance to win if all
YIMBYs would stop with a this 8th dimensional chess and vote for who represents the policies they support.


Finley has 153 in-Ward supporters, ie people who will actually vote for him: https://dcgeekery.com/dc-campaign-finance/2022/council-ward-3/finley/points

How is that viable in a race where something like 13,000 people will vote?

Those are donors not supporters. If all of the YIMBY people who agreed with him in the issues voted for him instead of convincing themselves that he cannot win and therefore voting for a lesser candidate, it would be a much different outcome.

Everyone in DC thinks they are playing out an episode of House of Cards when they could just vote their conscience and vote for Finley.
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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.


I'm going to vote Frumin. Goulet has an impressive operation with tons of volunteers and money. I'm worried he will win and derail the school plan in deference to the NIMBY Palisades ppl and charter school pushers who funded him


I've spent a lot of time around the ward in the past couple of weeks. I've seen Frumin volunteers, Duncan volunteers, Bergman volunteers. I even saw Phil Thomas out late at night putting up road signs. I've never seen a Goulet volunteer.

I'll concede he has plenty of money. That's kind of the problem, actually.


This afternoon, a nice young person knocked on my door and gave me a door hanger from Mr. Goulet’s campaign. Paid for by DFER. The fourth time a nice young person (all probably paid by DFER and good for them for getting paid this summer) has dropped by with a Goulet/DFER door hanger in the last ten days. Yes, the outside money is at work in W3.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.

This is hot garbage. If you are a true YIMBY he’s the only one in the race worth voting for and he has a real chance to win if all
YIMBYs would stop with a this 8th dimensional chess and vote for who represents the policies they support.


Finley has 153 in-Ward supporters, ie people who will actually vote for him: https://dcgeekery.com/dc-campaign-finance/2022/council-ward-3/finley/points

How is that viable in a race where something like 13,000 people will vote?

Those are donors not supporters. If all of the YIMBY people who agreed with him in the issues voted for him instead of convincing themselves that he cannot win and therefore voting for a lesser candidate, it would be a much different outcome.

Everyone in DC thinks they are playing out an episode of House of Cards when they could just vote their conscience and vote for Finley.


Donations are a barometer for support. Compare his numbers to the others in the race.
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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.


I'm going to vote Frumin. Goulet has an impressive operation with tons of volunteers and money. I'm worried he will win and derail the school plan in deference to the NIMBY Palisades ppl and charter school pushers who funded him


I've spent a lot of time around the ward in the past couple of weeks. I've seen Frumin volunteers, Duncan volunteers, Bergman volunteers. I even saw Phil Thomas out late at night putting up road signs. I've never seen a Goulet volunteer.

I'll concede he has plenty of money. That's kind of the problem, actually.


This afternoon, a nice young person knocked on my door and gave me a door hanger from Mr. Goulet’s campaign. Paid for by DFER. The fourth time a nice young person (all probably paid by DFER and good for them for getting paid this summer) has dropped by with a Goulet/DFER door hanger in the last ten days. Yes, the outside money is at work in W3.


There is nothing sinister about this. Any individual or organization that you wanted to could do the same. And that’s a good thing for democracy.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.

This is hot garbage. If you are a true YIMBY he’s the only one in the race worth voting for and he has a real chance to win if all
YIMBYs would stop with a this 8th dimensional chess and vote for who represents the policies they support.


Finley has 153 in-Ward supporters, ie people who will actually vote for him: https://dcgeekery.com/dc-campaign-finance/2022/council-ward-3/finley/points

How is that viable in a race where something like 13,000 people will vote?

Those are donors not supporters. If all of the YIMBY people who agreed with him in the issues voted for him instead of convincing themselves that he cannot win and therefore voting for a lesser candidate, it would be a much different outcome.

Everyone in DC thinks they are playing out an episode of House of Cards when they could just vote their conscience and vote for Finley.


Donations are a barometer for support. Compare his numbers to the others in the race.

Endorsements are also a barometer of support. Every YIMBY and YIMBY organization should be endorsing the only remaining true YIMBY left in the race.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.

This is hot garbage. If you are a true YIMBY he’s the only one in the race worth voting for and he has a real chance to win if all
YIMBYs would stop with a this 8th dimensional chess and vote for who represents the policies they support.


Finley has 153 in-Ward supporters, ie people who will actually vote for him: https://dcgeekery.com/dc-campaign-finance/2022/council-ward-3/finley/points

How is that viable in a race where something like 13,000 people will vote?

Those are donors not supporters. If all of the YIMBY people who agreed with him in the issues voted for him instead of convincing themselves that he cannot win and therefore voting for a lesser candidate, it would be a much different outcome.

Everyone in DC thinks they are playing out an episode of House of Cards when they could just vote their conscience and vote for Finley.


Donations are a barometer for support. Compare his numbers to the others in the race.

Endorsements are also a barometer of support. Every YIMBY and YIMBY organization should be endorsing the only remaining true YIMBY left in the race.


It's incredible that GGW hasn't endorsed Finley. Even their endorsement of Bergmann read as more of an endorsement of Finley.

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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.


I'm going to vote Frumin. Goulet has an impressive operation with tons of volunteers and money. I'm worried he will win and derail the school plan in deference to the NIMBY Palisades ppl and charter school pushers who funded him


I've spent a lot of time around the ward in the past couple of weeks. I've seen Frumin volunteers, Duncan volunteers, Bergman volunteers. I even saw Phil Thomas out late at night putting up road signs. I've never seen a Goulet volunteer.

I'll concede he has plenty of money. That's kind of the problem, actually.


This afternoon, a nice young person knocked on my door and gave me a door hanger from Mr. Goulet’s campaign. Paid for by DFER. The fourth time a nice young person (all probably paid by DFER and good for them for getting paid this summer) has dropped by with a Goulet/DFER door hanger in the last ten days. Yes, the outside money is at work in W3.


There is nothing sinister about this. Any individual or organization that you wanted to could do the same. And that’s a good thing for democracy.


Sinister?

I was responding to the PP who said they had not seen any Goulet volunteers.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.

This is hot garbage. If you are a true YIMBY he’s the only one in the race worth voting for and he has a real chance to win if all
YIMBYs would stop with a this 8th dimensional chess and vote for who represents the policies they support.


Finley has 153 in-Ward supporters, ie people who will actually vote for him: https://dcgeekery.com/dc-campaign-finance/2022/council-ward-3/finley/points

How is that viable in a race where something like 13,000 people will vote?

Those are donors not supporters. If all of the YIMBY people who agreed with him in the issues voted for him instead of convincing themselves that he cannot win and therefore voting for a lesser candidate, it would be a much different outcome.

Everyone in DC thinks they are playing out an episode of House of Cards when they could just vote their conscience and vote for Finley.


Donations are a barometer for support. Compare his numbers to the others in the race.

Endorsements are also a barometer of support. Every YIMBY and YIMBY organization should be endorsing the only remaining true YIMBY left in the race.


Greater Greater Washington, one of the most YIMBY organizations out there, endorsed Frumin. He is definitely not as in step with their positions as Finley is, but they realize how important it is to prevent Goulet from winning this election. I don't agree with all of Frumin's positions either, but we have to come together and not let out-of-state money buy this council race. Frumin is our only shot at that.
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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.


I'm going to vote Frumin. Goulet has an impressive operation with tons of volunteers and money. I'm worried he will win and derail the school plan in deference to the NIMBY Palisades ppl and charter school pushers who funded him


I've spent a lot of time around the ward in the past couple of weeks. I've seen Frumin volunteers, Duncan volunteers, Bergman volunteers. I even saw Phil Thomas out late at night putting up road signs. I've never seen a Goulet volunteer.

I'll concede he has plenty of money. That's kind of the problem, actually.


This afternoon, a nice young person knocked on my door and gave me a door hanger from Mr. Goulet’s campaign. Paid for by DFER. The fourth time a nice young person (all probably paid by DFER and good for them for getting paid this summer) has dropped by with a Goulet/DFER door hanger in the last ten days. Yes, the outside money is at work in W3.


There is nothing sinister about this. Any individual or organization that you wanted to could do the same. And that’s a good thing for democracy.


Nobody drops the kind of money DFER is dropping into this race without expecting something in return. Nobody. Not even billionaires. Especially not billionaires.
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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.


I'm going to vote Frumin. Goulet has an impressive operation with tons of volunteers and money. I'm worried he will win and derail the school plan in deference to the NIMBY Palisades ppl and charter school pushers who funded him


I've spent a lot of time around the ward in the past couple of weeks. I've seen Frumin volunteers, Duncan volunteers, Bergman volunteers. I even saw Phil Thomas out late at night putting up road signs. I've never seen a Goulet volunteer.

I'll concede he has plenty of money. That's kind of the problem, actually.


This afternoon, a nice young person knocked on my door and gave me a door hanger from Mr. Goulet’s campaign. Paid for by DFER. The fourth time a nice young person (all probably paid by DFER and good for them for getting paid this summer) has dropped by with a Goulet/DFER door hanger in the last ten days. Yes, the outside money is at work in W3.


There is nothing sinister about this. Any individual or organization that you wanted to could do the same. And that’s a good thing for democracy.


It's sinister as hell. Dark money groups are dropping at least $400K into Goulet's campaign. That is an unprecedented amount for a ward council race. DC Fair Elections candidates are limited to $250K so it dwarfs what campaigns can spend on their own.
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This "vote for Frumin, or else..." stuff is very "blue no matter who."
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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.


I'm going to vote Frumin. Goulet has an impressive operation with tons of volunteers and money. I'm worried he will win and derail the school plan in deference to the NIMBY Palisades ppl and charter school pushers who funded him


I've spent a lot of time around the ward in the past couple of weeks. I've seen Frumin volunteers, Duncan volunteers, Bergman volunteers. I even saw Phil Thomas out late at night putting up road signs. I've never seen a Goulet volunteer.

I'll concede he has plenty of money. That's kind of the problem, actually.


This afternoon, a nice young person knocked on my door and gave me a door hanger from Mr. Goulet’s campaign. Paid for by DFER. The fourth time a nice young person (all probably paid by DFER and good for them for getting paid this summer) has dropped by with a Goulet/DFER door hanger in the last ten days. Yes, the outside money is at work in W3.


There is nothing sinister about this. Any individual or organization that you wanted to could do the same. And that’s a good thing for democracy.


No, actually, out-of-state organizations spending millions to influence the elections of a local legislature with only 13 members is not a good thing for democracy. It creates artificial support for candidates who will owe these organizations something if they get elected. Supplanting local, grassroots support and campaigns with massive expenditures from special interests is a bad thing, and candidates who do so should not win public office.
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