With Duncan Gone, Who Supports the Foxhall Schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.

If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.
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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.

If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.


Trying to explain this to some people doesn't really work. I have a neighbor who is like that.
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Anonymous wrote:Finley. He pointed out that the Foxhall school means pre-k3 at Stoddert, Key, and Mann.


The current Foxhall school plans would mean pre-K3 at Key for sure and likely Mann, but not at Stoddert. Even after replacing the trailers and sending half of Glover Park to Foxhall, there isn't projected to be space.


Do you have a cite for this? Mary Cheh's newsletter (which is dated!) states that pre-k3 would be at Stoddert too.


There's no cite, just numbers. The addition is planned for 523 kids, projections are around 650. If 100 are sent from Stoddert to Foxhall, there's still no room at Stoddert.


Partially correct.

The addition is planned for 523 kids.

Pre-pandemic, Stoddert was forecasted to reach 613 kids by the 2028-2029 school year. There are no post-pandemic projections beyond the coming year.


I'm surprised I got one of the numbers right rather than just ballpark!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCCA put out a guide
https://foxhall.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Special-Election-2022_FCCA_FINAL.pdf


What Frumin told Foxhall Pravda was interesting. He clearly crafted it to try to pick up a few votes from the NIMBYs, but the tl/dr is that he supports both schools. MacArthur HS will be a done deal by the time he takes office and decisions on the size will be guided by effects on other HSs, not what the FCCA wants. On Foxhall, recovering Old Hardy is the best solution for all bar the hard core FCCAs. It’s a hard ask, but he will earn in unending plaudits if he pulls it off. If not, then it seems like he’s on board with much of what DCPS is actually planning to do (rather than what the FCCAs want others to believe that DCPS is planning to do).
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Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.

If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.


If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


You keep fighting your fight. But I'm a Duncan supporter and most of us (who haven't voted) are going Frumin.


I'm going to vote Frumin. Goulet has an impressive operation with tons of volunteers and money. I'm worried he will win and derail the school plan in deference to the NIMBY Palisades ppl and charter school pushers who funded him
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.

If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.



if everyone votes for who they think is best for the job, rather than fancying themselves pundits playing 3D chess, then we'd have better governance, through and through.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.

If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.



if everyone votes for who they think is best for the job, rather than fancying themselves pundits playing 3D chess, then we'd have better governance, through and through.

Exactly. Everyone is worrying about what everyone else is doing instead of voting for what they believe in.
Anonymous
This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.
Anonymous
Lordy DC really needs ranked choice voting. I hate that DC council seats are basically given away for only 25% of the primary vote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.


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Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.

This is hot garbage. If you are a true YIMBY he’s the only one in the race worth voting for and he has a real chance to win if all
YIMBYs would stop with a this 8th dimensional chess and vote for who represents the policies they support.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Frumin supports scaled down schools at Foxhall (enough only for IB kids in foxhall for ES and Hardy for HS). He wants to take the savings and expand Stoddert/Key/Mann to have Pk3 there.

Thomas is OK with whatever DCPS does. So implicitly OK with the schools.


Thomas has said he wants to reevaluate the sites.


Thomas literally tweeted yesterday that he favors "saving" hardy park.


So this makes Finley the only one serious about addressing school overcrowding?

Yes. If people are truly concerned about school they should vote Finley. He’s the only one who understands the issue and supports a practical plan to address it.


This is bad advice, and I'm a single-issue voter for improving our public schools.

The choice is between Frumin and Goulet. Finley has no shot. While Frumin is not my ideal candidate, Goulet would be awful for Ward 3 schools. Like, you would struggle to design a worse candidate. At least an indifferent candidate doesn't owe favors to financial backers pushing the replacement of neighborhood schools for charter schools.

If your single issue is school crowding, then Finley is your only choice. I’m not sure how complicated this is.


Au contraire. Even if Finley is better for my pet issue than Frumin, if he cannot win -- and he cannot win -- my vote for him is not helping my cause. If my second choice is Frumin and he is much, much better than Goulet, then I should vote for Frumin.

This is basic strategic voting here.

He cannot win if you tell people not to vote for him. There is probably no better opportunity to get a true YIMBY like Finley on the council than now, when the vote is so fragmented. The winner of this primary will probably only have 20% of the vote share. If all the YIMBY supporters of Duncan and Bergmann turn and vote for Finley, he can win.


There is absolutely no way Finley can win. He doesn't have any sort of base - look at his donations. And half the people who live in his ANC hate him. Personally, I am a big fan but I am voting for Frumin as the next best viable choice to keep Goulet out.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a two-person race. Finley couldn't even win the support of progressive orgs like GGW (endorsed Bergmann, then endorsed Frumin) or Sunrise (he split the Sunrise vote with Henry Cohen, who has dropped out and endorsed Frumin). I probably agree more with Finley than I do Frumin (I was previously a Duncan supporter), but we need to back Matt now. Finley doesn't have the endorsements, the donors, or the massive grassroots support that Frumin has. We cannot let Goulet win, and Frumin is the only shot at beating him.

This is hot garbage. If you are a true YIMBY he’s the only one in the race worth voting for and he has a real chance to win if all
YIMBYs would stop with a this 8th dimensional chess and vote for who represents the policies they support.


Eric, what are you doing here?
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