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ACHS - conservative leaning students - afraid to speak up
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Anonymous
Have you? Because the first amendment doesn't protect someone from getting shot down or feeling uncomfortable in their peer group. |
Anonymous
Exactly. Youngkin is suppressing all discussion. |
Anonymous
That is a religious belief. You don’t get to force your religious beliefs on others. |
Anonymous
If your daughter has questions, she should ask them in a respectful manner. Maybe she won’t grow up to be ignorant of non - binary identification |
Anonymous
Correct. Unfortunately many people don't understand the science or prefer to ignore the science because it doesn't suit their narcissistic preferences. |
Anonymous
I, for one, am sick of the poor silenced and persecuted conservative trope. If you fear backlash for saying something others find offensive, you are the problem. It doesn’t mean your views are valid or truth. This is how the marketplace of ideas work. |
Anonymous
Have you confused pandemic responses as being a conservative versus liberal thing? Dear Lord. Everything is tribal with you lot. |
Anonymous
Because a couple of snowflake conservatives fear backlash if they express reprehensible viewpoints and demand the right to do so without feedback? Naw. I think it’s something else. |
Anonymous
Let me sum the article up: 1) The writer erects a straw man that conservative students feel silenced or reluctant to speak up. 2) A Pew survey of classes at the school finds that the students overwhelmingly identify as liberal. Which is shocking because who knew that teenagers by and large are liberal? But it also undercuts the straw man premise in (1). 3) Some teachers are quoted saying some students are generally reluctant to talk in class. Because, you know, they are teenagers. Another shocking result! 4) No actual examples of any conservative student being silenced by anyone. Just this vague assertion that some conservative students somewhere are hiding their true feelings because of backlash. In other words, it’s a lot of baseless whining and a trope. |
Anonymous
So you aren’t religious and don’t speak out on abortion because of your faith views? This is honestly a first. |
Anonymous
I am the OP and thank you. Yes, the reason I posted the article is that people were believing that this was not happening. This was written by a student who clearly observed something and then decided to write about it. It was backed up by teachers and students. Almost all the rhetoric and attacks on this thread are from an adult perspective about other adults. But the discussion should be on high school kids who are heading to becoming adults. If they never have the chance to discuss and debate then what happens? They stay locked in their own beliefs, double down, and insist only their way is right. There are other issues besides social justice issues that have two sides for example economics, climate, and so on. Students at this age are forming opinions, exploring beliefs, figuring out who they are. Having discussions were beliefs are challenged and they must defend them, challenges the student to think more critically. Maybe it changes their mind or maybe it just opens their mind to realizing there are different viewpoints and not everything is black and white, or maybe it makes them more stalwart in their belief than before. But let's give kids the chance to discuss and debate these things. |
Anonymous
This whole thread is useless because the "adults" can't even focus on the real question OP posed. To you liberals merely citing that conservatives shouldn't be spouting their anti-democracy and sexist positions or election fraud claims etc: NOT ALL MODERATE LIBERALS, INDEPEDENTS, OR REPUBLICANS HOLD THOSE POSITIONS! And OP's question doesn't ask about such positions being stifled in classroom discussions. This is the whole problem with politics and the social culture in this country today - only extremes, no nuance, no room for middle positions, no conceivable possibility that many people have different but not-that-different views on various topics, no willingness to even entertain anyone's thoughts or questions that even slightly indicate the possibility of something even a hair's width different than one's own. FGS, teenagers are supposed to be learning and developing their personal views and opinions on issues. Establishing an environment in which free discussion takes place is critical to that. The vast majority of students are not going to declare these extreme positions you're all accusing each other of here. If legitimate discussions can't take place, then school instructional methods should change to a debate format whereby students are assigned a position and they have to advocate for it and defend it whether they agree with it or not. That's the best way to strengthen your own arguments for the position you do hold anyway. But I don't expect any of it to happen in the classroom because supposed intelligent, educated, grown adults can't even figure it out and demonstrate it for their own kids. So y'all just go on and assume every young child 100% holds the identical extreme views of their loudmouth parents. Both sides - guilty of the exact same crap. |
Anonymous
| Remember that Governor Youngkin won’t permit the expression of conservative views in schools. |
Anonymous
In other words, the most liberal view is right and therefore anyone with a different opinion about government regulation, taxes, local government authority, zoning policies, housing policies, traffic management and incentives in relation to environmental concerns, social programs, education policy, public budget priorities or fiscal management, etc. etc. etc., is "the problem" and is "offensive" and shouldn't shrink from personal attacks and criticisms from the "always-right-never-wrong" far liberal. It just isn't possible for a liberal to say anything offensive or to extend misguided moral judgment on someone else. Someone being offended by one's remarks means the one making the remark is invalid and untruthful - because we all know there are no overly sensitive people who will find offense in just about anything and people's comments are never taken out of context or misconstrued. (I'm a liberal - so nope, not a persecuted conservative trope - but disgusted by the attitude and comments of PP and most others on this thread) |
Anonymous
Oh please. I agree Youngkin and his ilk are suppressing truthful and robust history instruction and learning. But this isn't about Youngkin. This has been happening for years under Democratic governorship. But more relevantly, in the all-Democrat like-minded governance and advocacy ubiquitous in Arlington and the identical liberal-only environments in Arlington public schools, kids have had years to learn their anything-but-the-farthest-left opinion on any issue is unwelcomed in an Arlington classroom, and to not dare question anything about policies or proposals related to certain issues. |