ACHS - conservative leaning students - afraid to speak up

[Anonymous]

Conservatives are never afraid of speaking up. In fact, they’ll dominate the conversation then claim they’re being silenced or discriminated against because people disagree with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are never afraid of speaking up. In fact, they’ll dominate the conversation then claim they’re being silenced or discriminated against because people disagree with them.

We're talking about kids in a liberal school setting here, not elected power-hungry radical politicians or plain ol' bombastic, gun rights at any costs above anything else, insecure jackasses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I struggle with what to think about abortion, and I would think and hope that is common given the complexities of the issues. Science, faith, psychology, sociology, politics are all intertwined in it. I work in an APS school and would not feel comfortable if my colleagues found out that I even ponder these complexities: the only acceptable opinion is to be 100%, unwaveringly pro-choice. This is somewhat true for other issues as well. I’m not a snowflake—I can stand having people disagree with me. I can’t stand committing social and career suicide. I am working hard to raise thoughtful children who can think for themselves and who can sit with ethical quandaries, because I know that they will not get that lesson from our immediate society.

Spot on.
+1 (though I don't work in an APS school)
Thank you for being honest!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a conservative leaning independent but discuss all different viewpoints with my kids. However, my APS middle schooler has already learned to just keep her mouth shut about anything that might be politically controversial. Like having questions about so many MS girls going by “they” and declaring they are non-binary. I tell my kid to be respectful of everyone & call people what they want to be called. Kid has told me she thinks it’s become the trendy thing to do but would never say that at school. Lots of smiling and nodding.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are never afraid of speaking up. In fact, they’ll dominate the conversation then claim they’re being silenced or discriminated against because people disagree with them.

We're talking about kids in a liberal school setting here, not elected power-hungry radical politicians or plain ol' bombastic, gun rights at any costs above anything else, insecure jackasses.

The republican governor has tried to ban and mitigate “progressive” ideas in public schools. I have zero sympathy for kids who feel entitled to sharing their conservative views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The republican governor has tried to ban and mitigate “progressive” ideas in public schools. I have zero sympathy for kids who feel entitled to sharing their conservative views.

Are you kidding me? "Entitled...to sharing their conservative views"? Are you familiar with the 1st amendment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, are conservative views pro-insurrection, or what? I think many have strayed from the country’s major conservative political party because of what it’s become in recent years. My family was once conservative but now more independent and unable to defend or justify many conservative policies.

+1

Depends what you mean by “conservative”.

Kids probably shouldn’t speak up if they are anti-democracy, anti-woman, or a bigot.

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, are conservative views pro-insurrection, or what? I think many have strayed from the country’s major conservative political party because of what it’s become in recent years. My family was once conservative but now more independent and unable to defend or justify many conservative policies.

+1

Depends what you mean by “conservative”.

Kids probably shouldn’t speak up if they are anti-democracy, anti-woman, or a bigot.

+2

+3 also shouldn't talk about gun collections much. If they start going off about their parent's assault rifle collection, I don't want my kid around them. Stating a political opinion is fine. But nope, don't want my kid being friends with yours if you have ARs around the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a conservative leaning independent but discuss all different viewpoints with my kids. However, my APS middle schooler has already learned to just keep her mouth shut about anything that might be politically controversial. Like having questions about so many MS girls going by “they” and declaring they are non-binary. I tell my kid to be respectful of everyone & call people what they want to be called. Kid has told me she thinks it’s become the trendy thing to do but would never say that at school. Lots of smiling and nodding.

Good. A positive use of peer pressure.

Sh1tting on peers is never ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:has already learned to just keep her mouth shut about anything that might be politically controversial.

Lots of smiling and nodding.

sounds just like visiting my parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I struggle with what to think about abortion, and I would think and hope that is common given the complexities of the issues. Science, faith, psychology, sociology, politics are all intertwined in it. I work in an APS school and would not feel comfortable if my colleagues found out that I even ponder these complexities: the only acceptable opinion is to be 100%, unwaveringly pro-choice. This is somewhat true for other issues as well. I’m not a snowflake—I can stand having people disagree with me. I can’t stand committing social and career suicide. I am working hard to raise thoughtful children who can think for themselves and who can sit with ethical quandaries, because I know that they will not get that lesson from our immediate society.

You can struggle with those things. And if, in the end, you decide you think abortion is wrong then you do not ever have to get one.

You don’t get to force your religious beliefs on others though. That’s all that pro-choice means.

No one is going to force you to get an abortion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I struggle with what to think about abortion, and I would think and hope that is common given the complexities of the issues. Science, faith, psychology, sociology, politics are all intertwined in it. I work in an APS school and would not feel comfortable if my colleagues found out that I even ponder these complexities: the only acceptable opinion is to be 100%, unwaveringly pro-choice. This is somewhat true for other issues as well. I’m not a snowflake—I can stand having people disagree with me. I can’t stand committing social and career suicide. I am working hard to raise thoughtful children who can think for themselves and who can sit with ethical quandaries, because I know that they will not get that lesson from our immediate society.

I also struggle with what to think. For me. Which is why I never had an abortion.

I don’t get to “struggle with what to think” about having a government that forces other people to stay pregnant if they don’t want to.

And I certainly don’t talk about it at work!

[Anonymous]

Having a discussion about taxes, or corporations, or government spending? I bet folks could even bave a reasonable debate about voting and election integrity if the speaker drops the falsehood of stolen elections. Those opinions aren't the ones folks are afraid to speak up about (if those are even republican ideals now).

It is because the new republican ideals are largely all social conservatism. They are ideals that are personally hurtful. No one wants to debate someone when their opinion is that a fellow student's life is immoral, not valid, shouldn't exist or doesn't exist. Furthermore, debating with someone whose ideas are based in falsehoods like Biden stole the election or covid is fake or whatever other nonsense modern day republics are spewing is also pointless.

And abortion is, always was and likely always will be a contentious subject. So that one is nothing new.

The republican party doesn't even have a platform at the moment so not even sure what real ideals they can discuss. Their platform seems to be "just say whatever we can to make the left mad and make our followers scream in approval"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally I struggle with what to think about abortion, and I would think and hope that is common given the complexities of the issues. Science, faith, psychology, sociology, politics are all intertwined in it. I work in an APS school and would not feel comfortable if my colleagues found out that I even ponder these complexities: the only acceptable opinion is to be 100%, unwaveringly pro-choice. This is somewhat true for other issues as well. I’m not a snowflake—I can stand having people disagree with me. I can’t stand committing social and career suicide. I am working hard to raise thoughtful children who can think for themselves and who can sit with ethical quandaries, because I know that they will not get that lesson from our immediate society.

You can struggle with those things. And if, in the end, you decide you think abortion is wrong then you do not ever have to get one.

You don’t get to force your religious beliefs on others though. That’s all that pro-choice means.

No one is going to force you to get an abortion.

Being against abortion isn't a religious belief. It is about understanding the science and being against the murder of a human life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The republican governor has tried to ban and mitigate “progressive” ideas in public schools. I have zero sympathy for kids who feel entitled to sharing their conservative views.

Are you kidding me? "Entitled...to sharing their conservative views"? Are you familiar with the 1st amendment?

OMG are YOU familiar with it? It m and the government can’t punish your speech. Not that you are protected from all consequences of your actions or comments all the time. If I “free speech” my boss I might get fired. He’s not the State.