Do you think the left struggles with marketing because the right uses professional firms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure at the highest levels of the party there is plenty of money to pay for professional firms for marketing and consulting.

Agree with you that the left struggles with this more. I think it stems from their big tent approach; whereas the Republicans take a more deliberately exclusionary approach.

Unfortunately the messages that Dems are putting out these days are clearly not resonating with voters. They appear to be struggling to retain current Democrats, I am hearing way more stories of Ds turning R than Rs moving to D.

I wish the Democrats could get it together because the so many Republicans are eager to abandon the rule of law.

12:52. Because that’s the message the GOP-owned media wants you to get. Notice that it’s not widely reported that Republicans and hence Republican voters were dying off of covid at crazy amounts.

I don't think disagree with your point that this message is pushed by GOP media. However, the only media that I consume is The Washington Post (which leans left) and the Economist (traditionally right-leaning, now it's more centrist and left-ish on social issues). I'm talking about my experiences with people in real life. I completely agree with your points that Republicans have died off at much greater rates due to COVID, which will impact their voter pool.

[Anonymous]

The Dems idea of marketing is suppressing free thought and discourse.

It is not working very well!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Dems idea of marketing is suppressing free thought and discourse.

It is not working very well!!!!

“Free thought”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

It’s not the framing that sucks. It’s the actual messages and actual proposals.

Speaking as a Democrat who plans to cast (an hopefully one-time) backlash vote in November, I agree. First of all, the far left lunatics who have hijacked the party are hardheaded and fascistic. They accuse anyone who doesn’t sign onto all of their excesses of being a Republican plant and they have plans to take the party even further left. They are every bit as beholden to white multimillionaires and billionaires as Republicans are, except that their masters are the fringe elements of the LGBTQ and race pimp lobby. The Democratic Party needs to suffer some painful and humiliating losses in order to abandon this foray into madness and get back on track.

Before anyone starts carrying on with a white nationalist accusations, I’m a racial minority. The idea that racial minorities sign onto this bullsh-t is complete nonsense. The numbers show that Democrats are losing racial minorities. Compare 2016 percentages to 2020 if you dare face reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

It’s not the framing that sucks. It’s the actual messages and actual proposals.

Speaking as a Democrat who plans to cast (an hopefully one-time) backlash vote in November, I agree. First of all, the far left lunatics who have hijacked the party are hardheaded and fascistic. They accuse anyone who doesn’t sign onto all of their excesses of being a Republican plant and they have plans to take the party even further left. They are every bit as beholden to white multimillionaires and billionaires as Republicans are, except that their masters are the fringe elements of the LGBTQ and race pimp lobby. The Democratic Party needs to suffer some painful and humiliating losses in order to abandon this foray into madness and get back on track.

Before anyone starts carrying on with a white nationalist accusations, I’m a racial minority. The idea that racial minorities sign onto this bullsh-t is complete nonsense. The numbers show that Democrats are losing racial minorities. Compare 2016 percentages to 2020 if you dare face reality.

If you think the Democrats are the hard-headed fascists, you’re a dumbass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Dems idea of marketing is suppressing free thought and discourse.

It is not working very well!!!!

You don’t know the meaning of the word suppression.

[maremart]

I'm sure both sides have plenty of money and use it to employ professionals, whether it's consultants, lobbies, or whatever way they can exert influence. I'm not even sure one side has more gaffes than the other, but perhaps one base is just more willing to put up with them. Who knows?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

It’s not the framing that sucks. It’s the actual messages and actual proposals.

Speaking as a Democrat who plans to cast (an hopefully one-time) backlash vote in November, I agree. First of all, the far left lunatics who have hijacked the party are hardheaded and fascistic. They accuse anyone who doesn’t sign onto all of their excesses of being a Republican plant and they have plans to take the party even further left. They are every bit as beholden to white multimillionaires and billionaires as Republicans are, except that their masters are the fringe elements of the LGBTQ and race pimp lobby. The Democratic Party needs to suffer some painful and humiliating losses in order to abandon this foray into madness and get back on track.

Before anyone starts carrying on with a white nationalist accusations, I’m a racial minority. The idea that racial minorities sign onto this bullsh-t is complete nonsense. The numbers show that Democrats are losing racial minorities. Compare 2016 percentages to 2020 if you dare face reality.

If you think the Democrats are the hard-headed fascists, you’re a dumbass.

DP.
I think pp was talking about people just like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

It’s not the framing that sucks. It’s the actual messages and actual proposals.

Speaking as a Democrat who plans to cast (an hopefully one-time) backlash vote in November, I agree. First of all, the far left lunatics who have hijacked the party are hardheaded and fascistic. They accuse anyone who doesn’t sign onto all of their excesses of being a Republican plant and they have plans to take the party even further left. They are every bit as beholden to white multimillionaires and billionaires as Republicans are, except that their masters are the fringe elements of the LGBTQ and race pimp lobby. The Democratic Party needs to suffer some painful and humiliating losses in order to abandon this foray into madness and get back on track.

Before anyone starts carrying on with a white nationalist accusations, I’m a racial minority. The idea that racial minorities sign onto this bullsh-t is complete nonsense. The numbers show that Democrats are losing racial minorities. Compare 2016 percentages to 2020 if you dare face reality.

If you think the Democrats are the hard-headed fascists, you’re a dumbass.

Oh, look, an airtight argument. It’s a real mystery the party is losing voters with verbally abusive fascists like you as the new base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

But their policies work really well. Go figure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

It’s not the framing that sucks. It’s the actual messages and actual proposals.

Speaking as a Democrat who plans to cast (an hopefully one-time) backlash vote in November, I agree. First of all, the far left lunatics who have hijacked the party are hardheaded and fascistic. They accuse anyone who doesn’t sign onto all of their excesses of being a Republican plant and they have plans to take the party even further left. They are every bit as beholden to white multimillionaires and billionaires as Republicans are, except that their masters are the fringe elements of the LGBTQ and race pimp lobby. The Democratic Party needs to suffer some painful and humiliating losses in order to abandon this foray into madness and get back on track.

Before anyone starts carrying on with a white nationalist accusations, I’m a racial minority. The idea that racial minorities sign onto this bullsh-t is complete nonsense. The numbers show that Democrats are losing racial minorities. Compare 2016 percentages to 2020 if you dare face reality.

If you think the Democrats are the hard-headed fascists, you’re a dumbass.

Oh, look, an airtight argument. It’s a real mystery the party is losing voters with verbally abusive fascists like you as the new base.

Disagreeing with a stupid statement is not fascism. Using violence, corruption, and conspiracy to try to overturn an election is fascism. Banning books and lessons that offer a different perspective is fascism. Concocting and perpetuating conspiracy theories to incite racists and fools is fascism. Organizing an entire political party around disinformation and imaginary grievances and promising to lock up your political opponents is fascism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

It’s not the framing that sucks. It’s the actual messages and actual proposals.

Speaking as a Democrat who plans to cast (an hopefully one-time) backlash vote in November, I agree. First of all, the far left lunatics who have hijacked the party are hardheaded and fascistic. They accuse anyone who doesn’t sign onto all of their excesses of being a Republican plant and they have plans to take the party even further left. They are every bit as beholden to white multimillionaires and billionaires as Republicans are, except that their masters are the fringe elements of the LGBTQ and race pimp lobby. The Democratic Party needs to suffer some painful and humiliating losses in order to abandon this foray into madness and get back on track.

Before anyone starts carrying on with a white nationalist accusations, I’m a racial minority. The idea that racial minorities sign onto this bullsh-t is complete nonsense. The numbers show that Democrats are losing racial minorities. Compare 2016 percentages to 2020 if you dare face reality.

Good plan. While you are sending “woke twitter” a message, the lunatics that republicans are electing to office are going to more forward with actual government sanctioned and enforced fascism. They are looking to roll back the clock on birth control and inter racial marriage. Good plan.

[Anonymous]

I subscribe to lots of social media from both sides, the right goes LOW. The politicians of the left are not playing quite as dirty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

Which messages suck?

Here are a few in recent years:

Defund the police
Don't worry about the price of gas. Buy an EV.
Inflation is transitory.
No need to secure the southern border. Migrants just want to claim asylum.
Nothing wrong with teaching K-3 kids about sexual orientation and gender identity.
Parents should not have a say in education.
It doesn't matter if only a few biological men are allowed to compete in women's sports.
The laptop is Russian disinformation.
We need to do away with Title 42, but members of the House still need to work from home and be able to vote by proxy.
Entertainers and professional athletes can be exempt from vaccine mandates, but everyone else is not exempt.
The threat of sanctions wasn't really intended as a deterrent as many in this administration claimed.

I know there are more. These are just off my head.

Watch less Fox News, lady. You're living in a bubble and parroting what Republican talking heads put in Democrats' mouths.

I’m democrat and agree with many of these, especially defund the police. That was literally the messaging. And liberal DAs decided to try out all this no bail stuff and no prosecuting broken windows and personal property and raising the limits for shoplifting. Do you think people are fking idiots? They see this stuff. It’s done mainly by folks to help “judicial reform in the name of equity”, but really it’s a euphemism for simply allowing crime to happen so families aren’t broken up. People are not okay.

+10000 well put!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left struggles because their messages suck.

It’s not the framing that sucks. It’s the actual messages and actual proposals.

Speaking as a Democrat who plans to cast (an hopefully one-time) backlash vote in November, I agree. First of all, the far left lunatics who have hijacked the party are hardheaded and fascistic. They accuse anyone who doesn’t sign onto all of their excesses of being a Republican plant and they have plans to take the party even further left. They are every bit as beholden to white multimillionaires and billionaires as Republicans are, except that their masters are the fringe elements of the LGBTQ and race pimp lobby. The Democratic Party needs to suffer some painful and humiliating losses in order to abandon this foray into madness and get back on track.

Before anyone starts carrying on with a white nationalist accusations, I’m a racial minority. The idea that racial minorities sign onto this bullsh-t is complete nonsense. The numbers show that Democrats are losing racial minorities. Compare 2016 percentages to 2020 if you dare face reality.

If you think the Democrats are the hard-headed fascists, you’re a dumbass.

Oh, look, an airtight argument. It’s a real mystery the party is losing voters with verbally abusive fascists like you as the new base.

Disagreeing with a stupid statement is not fascism. Using violence, corruption, and conspiracy to try to overturn an election is fascism. Banning books and lessons that offer a different perspective is fascism. Concocting and perpetuating conspiracy theories to incite racists and fools is fascism. Organizing an entire political party around disinformation and imaginary grievances and promising to lock up your political opponents is fascism.

Do you understand democracy works? You have to get the majority of voters on your side. If you turn off voters due to rudeness, belligerence, and arrogance on top of some of the insane ideas some in this thread have already addressed, then you will lose. Losers get nothing. You’re going to be on the curb screaming into the wind about Republicans this and Republicans that. November will soon be here and then we will remind you how democracy works.