Lack of diversity in lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Watch the documentary called City Lax.

Now the PG County high schools have Lacrosse all the pretty boys with average talent are going to see what it like when you play against hungry kids with great agility.

Hungry dogs run faster


This exactly. Lax was a way for privileged white mediocre athletes to play at a level they couldn’t in sports with more diversity like football, basketball, etc.

Wow. What an absolutely racist statement.


+ 1 Comparing minority players to dogs? Using tropes about minorities in athletics. Disgusting


Clearly you live under a rock if you haven't heard the term and pay attention to sports no matter what color.


“Pay attention to sports no matter what color?” What does this even mean? Grammar is your friend, not your enemy.
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Anonymous wrote:The responses here are why lacrosse has very time with diversity and inclusion. Lacrosse is an unequivocally white dominated sport at every level (Admin, coaching, players). There is little motivation to change this, because the participants benefit from it being exclusionary - clearly if more people played lacrosse there would be more competition for playing time and recruiting. Of course there are people who support diversity and inclusion, but they are far outnumbered and while they may support it, at some point its easier to ignore the issue.

Outreach programs where people go into the "inner city" with ministicks and spend some time entertaining minority kids with the sport do very little to support diversity and inclusion. They seem to be more PR stunts and to allow the lacrosse community to feel good about itself. Of course, these kids will never be a threat to their kids playing time or recruiting chances. Meanwhile, in every suburban neighborhood on the East Coast, there are minority kids having to surmount alienation, bias, and yes, even racism (I know, shocking).

This post will be mocked or ignored by most who read it, but for minority parents out there who see this, keep at it... it's a beautiful sport! Things have to get better eventually...


Totally agree with you, PP.
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Anonymous wrote:I think accusations of racism are serious, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Accusing coaches of being racist because an inexperienced player with questionable stick work (as all inexperienced players are) is put on defense.

Accusing teammates of being racist because they don't pass you the ball.

You'll find both happen on every team, some girls hog the ball, some girls can't catch, so players avoid passing them the ball.

Maybe there was racist undertones to those decisions, certainly not enough evidence to conclude it is accurate and irresponsible imo.



I am guessing you are white and usually not on the receiving end of this sort of race based discrimination? The entire point is that the attitudes are pervasive, the actions are nearly impossible to prove, by design, and thusly, will continue until enough sunlight is on an issue and someone white decides to be a race traitor and admit to what they know happens behind closed doors.

Most people will say the exact same thing you are saying, that accusations of racism are serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. But racist actions happen all the time and white people look the other way, because it doesn't affect them, or they are giving the benefit of the doubt to colleagues or teammates, or they don't want to cause social discomfort. Then, those who are perpetuating discriminatory acts are protected, and emboldened to continue, because they know their fellow white peers will not check their behaviors.



I am white and if you are white you know that not everything is motivated by race. A minority not getting the ball is not a "racist action", that's the point. A coach putting a minority on defense is not a "racist action". She is on M&D's B team and is clearly a very talented player. Reading between the lines, the accusation there is she is on their B team because the A team wouldn't play her at middie, her preferred position. That is one hell of an accusation.


I agree we need more minorities in the sport, but there are a lot of issues that is keeping that from happening that is not racist. The PG County playoff team last year didn't even have a full starting lineup to compete in the playoff game. That's an issue.



It is interesting that she was good enough to be on the USA U16 team but is only on M&D's B team. Just sayin', not accusing....

I share the same questions.
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Anonymous wrote:I think accusations of racism are serious, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Accusing coaches of being racist because an inexperienced player with questionable stick work (as all inexperienced players are) is put on defense.

Accusing teammates of being racist because they don't pass you the ball.

You'll find both happen on every team, some girls hog the ball, some girls can't catch, so players avoid passing them the ball.

Maybe there was racist undertones to those decisions, certainly not enough evidence to conclude it is accurate and irresponsible imo.


It is what it is.
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Anonymous wrote:I think accusations of racism are serious, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Accusing coaches of being racist because an inexperienced player with questionable stick work (as all inexperienced players are) is put on defense.

Accusing teammates of being racist because they don't pass you the ball.

You'll find both happen on every team, some girls hog the ball, some girls can't catch, so players avoid passing them the ball.

Maybe there was racist undertones to those decisions, certainly not enough evidence to conclude it is accurate and irresponsible imo.


It is what it is.


What does that mean?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think accusations of racism are serious, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Accusing coaches of being racist because an inexperienced player with questionable stick work (as all inexperienced players are) is put on defense.

Accusing teammates of being racist because they don't pass you the ball.

You'll find both happen on every team, some girls hog the ball, some girls can't catch, so players avoid passing them the ball.

Maybe there was racist undertones to those decisions, certainly not enough evidence to conclude it is accurate and irresponsible imo.



I am guessing you are white and usually not on the receiving end of this sort of race based discrimination? The entire point is that the attitudes are pervasive, the actions are nearly impossible to prove, by design, and thusly, will continue until enough sunlight is on an issue and someone white decides to be a race traitor and admit to what they know happens behind closed doors.

Most people will say the exact same thing you are saying, that accusations of racism are serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. But racist actions happen all the time and white people look the other way, because it doesn't affect them, or they are giving the benefit of the doubt to colleagues or teammates, or they don't want to cause social discomfort. Then, those who are perpetuating discriminatory acts are protected, and emboldened to continue, because they know their fellow white peers will not check their behaviors.



I am white and if you are white you know that not everything is motivated by race. A minority not getting the ball is not a "racist action", that's the point. A coach putting a minority on defense is not a "racist action". She is on M&D's B team and is clearly a very talented player. Reading between the lines, the accusation there is she is on their B team because the A team wouldn't play her at middie, her preferred position. That is one hell of an accusation.


I agree we need more minorities in the sport, but there are a lot of issues that is keeping that from happening that is not racist. The PG County playoff team last year didn't even have a full starting lineup to compete in the playoff game. That's an issue.



It is interesting that she was good enough to be on the USA U16 team but is only on M&D's B team. Just sayin', not accusing....

I share the same questions.

I’m sure she can make any team in the country as long as she is eligible within the rules. However, due to the racism she has experienced, she is playing with who she is comfortable with.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think accusations of racism are serious, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Accusing coaches of being racist because an inexperienced player with questionable stick work (as all inexperienced players are) is put on defense.

Accusing teammates of being racist because they don't pass you the ball.

You'll find both happen on every team, some girls hog the ball, some girls can't catch, so players avoid passing them the ball.

Maybe there was racist undertones to those decisions, certainly not enough evidence to conclude it is accurate and irresponsible imo.


Well maybe it wasn’t racism. Maybe it was poor coaching. These coaches would not allow a player to grow who obviously had the potential to develop into one of the top players in the country in the position they refused to allow her to try.

From a developmental standpoint, is this the Coach you would want for your kid? And you want us to believe a coach with any knowledge of the game would not have recognized this potential had the girl been white?

If it were my kid, I’d be content with just having her play against them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think accusations of racism are serious, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Accusing coaches of being racist because an inexperienced player with questionable stick work (as all inexperienced players are) is put on defense.

Accusing teammates of being racist because they don't pass you the ball.

You'll find both happen on every team, some girls hog the ball, some girls can't catch, so players avoid passing them the ball.

Maybe there was racist undertones to those decisions, certainly not enough evidence to conclude it is accurate and irresponsible imo.



I am guessing you are white and usually not on the receiving end of this sort of race based discrimination? The entire point is that the attitudes are pervasive, the actions are nearly impossible to prove, by design, and thusly, will continue until enough sunlight is on an issue and someone white decides to be a race traitor and admit to what they know happens behind closed doors.

Most people will say the exact same thing you are saying, that accusations of racism are serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. But racist actions happen all the time and white people look the other way, because it doesn't affect them, or they are giving the benefit of the doubt to colleagues or teammates, or they don't want to cause social discomfort. Then, those who are perpetuating discriminatory acts are protected, and emboldened to continue, because they know their fellow white peers will not check their behaviors.



I am white and if you are white you know that not everything is motivated by race. A minority not getting the ball is not a "racist action", that's the point. A coach putting a minority on defense is not a "racist action". She is on M&D's B team and is clearly a very talented player. Reading between the lines, the accusation there is she is on their B team because the A team wouldn't play her at middie, her preferred position. That is one hell of an accusation.


I agree we need more minorities in the sport, but there are a lot of issues that is keeping that from happening that is not racist. The PG County playoff team last year didn't even have a full starting lineup to compete in the playoff game. That's an issue.



It is interesting that she was good enough to be on the USA U16 team but is only on M&D's B team. Just sayin', not accusing....

I share the same questions.

I’m sure she can make any team in the country as long as she is eligible within the rules. However, due to the racism she has experienced, she is playing with who she is comfortable with.


Yet, not real example of racism was ever provided in this "in-depth" article. Sorry, playing defense isn't evidence of racism. Seems to me, the Post woulda loved a nice piece of racism to add to the article but just couldn't find any.
Getting a Red card for calling "I got Ball", yeah, there's def more to that story.

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Yet, not real example of racism was ever provided in this "in-depth" article. Sorry, playing defense isn't evidence of racism. Seems to me, the Post woulda loved a nice piece of racism to add to the article but just couldn't find any.
Getting a Red card for calling "I got Ball", yeah, there's def more to that story.



I guess the USA Team Coach, her high school coach and the American Select coaches are all racist as well considering she plays/played Defense for all of those teams...
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Yet, not real example of racism was ever provided in this "in-depth" article. Sorry, playing defense isn't evidence of racism. Seems to me, the Post woulda loved a nice piece of racism to add to the article but just couldn't find any.
Getting a Red card for calling "I got Ball", yeah, there's def more to that story.



I guess the USA Team Coach, her high school coach and the American Select coaches are all racist as well considering she plays/played Defense for all of those teams...

I didn’t read that she had a problem playing defense. Her mom was saying they would only allow her to play defense. If a kid wants to learn different positions and you restrict them, that hurts their development as a player. If she tells her high school coach she wants to try some different positions or she will find a new high school, what do you think her coach is going to do?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think accusations of racism are serious, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Accusing coaches of being racist because an inexperienced player with questionable stick work (as all inexperienced players are) is put on defense.

Accusing teammates of being racist because they don't pass you the ball.

You'll find both happen on every team, some girls hog the ball, some girls can't catch, so players avoid passing them the ball.

Maybe there was racist undertones to those decisions, certainly not enough evidence to conclude it is accurate and irresponsible imo.



I am guessing you are white and usually not on the receiving end of this sort of race based discrimination? The entire point is that the attitudes are pervasive, the actions are nearly impossible to prove, by design, and thusly, will continue until enough sunlight is on an issue and someone white decides to be a race traitor and admit to what they know happens behind closed doors.

Most people will say the exact same thing you are saying, that accusations of racism are serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. But racist actions happen all the time and white people look the other way, because it doesn't affect them, or they are giving the benefit of the doubt to colleagues or teammates, or they don't want to cause social discomfort. Then, those who are perpetuating discriminatory acts are protected, and emboldened to continue, because they know their fellow white peers will not check their behaviors.



I am white and if you are white you know that not everything is motivated by race. A minority not getting the ball is not a "racist action", that's the point. A coach putting a minority on defense is not a "racist action". She is on M&D's B team and is clearly a very talented player. Reading between the lines, the accusation there is she is on their B team because the A team wouldn't play her at middie, her preferred position. That is one hell of an accusation.


I agree we need more minorities in the sport, but there are a lot of issues that is keeping that from happening that is not racist. The PG County playoff team last year didn't even have a full starting lineup to compete in the playoff game. That's an issue.



It is interesting that she was good enough to be on the USA U16 team but is only on M&D's B team. Just sayin', not accusing....

I share the same questions.

I’m sure she can make any team in the country as long as she is eligible within the rules. However, due to the racism she has experienced, she is playing with who she is comfortable with.


Yet, not real example of racism was ever provided in this "in-depth" article. Sorry, playing defense isn't evidence of racism. Seems to me, the Post woulda loved a nice piece of racism to add to the article but just couldn't find any.
Getting a Red card for calling "I got Ball", yeah, there's def more to that story.


For some reason reason I don’t think you would see any example and agree it qualifies as racism. Some people will never admit when they see anti-Black racism. I guess it’s part of the code of white supremacy.
Anonymous
What a clown post. If you don’t see racism in every single thing, your a supporter of white supremacy?

Great logic Rev Al.
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Anonymous wrote:What a clown post. If you don’t see racism in every single thing, your a supporter of white supremacy?

Great logic Rev Al.

No, when you try to pretend racism isn’t there and it obviously is, that’s when you are supporting racism/white supremacy.
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Anonymous wrote:What a clown post. If you don’t see racism in every single thing, your a supporter of white supremacy?

Great logic Rev Al.

The above comment is racist.
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Anonymous wrote:

Yet, not real example of racism was ever provided in this "in-depth" article. Sorry, playing defense isn't evidence of racism. Seems to me, the Post woulda loved a nice piece of racism to add to the article but just couldn't find any.
Getting a Red card for calling "I got Ball", yeah, there's def more to that story.



I guess the USA Team Coach, her high school coach and the American Select coaches are all racist as well considering she plays/played Defense for all of those teams...

I didn’t read that she had a problem playing defense. Her mom was saying they would only allow her to play defense. If a kid wants to learn different positions and you restrict them, that hurts their development as a player. If she tells her high school coach she wants to try some different positions or she will find a new high school, what do you think her coach is going to do?


I would hope, "good luck" (and actually mean it).

I don't get this whole "I should get to pick my position" thing that seems to have invaded youth sports. Play where the coach tells you to play and be happy to be playing.
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