Lack of diversity in lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:If we should have quota's for lacrosse to ensure DEI, then I propose we have quota's in all sports. If we were to use race, I would propose using the lates census data by race. Whether someone is interested or particularly skilled in the sport or not shouldn't matter, just like Title IX. This way, we can ensure that all races are equally represented in every sport based on the population of the country. Sound good?

Sounds good, but those quotas need to be at the early ages like when the sports are first introduced to children so everyone is able to get equal preparation. Then, we can have the best athletes available by the time they mature physically.

You wouldn't have the best athletes though, hence the quota, it wouldn't be based on ability or skill, but matching up with society.

You don’t need the quotas after every one gets the same access to preparation. After everyone matures physically, we will see who the best athletes are. Is there a reason you don’t want each kid to have the same access to preparation and training?

I assume you are just a troll, you aren't going to turn some kids into LeBron James no matter how much time they are shooting hoops at a young age.

Lebron started playing basketball when he was 8 years old. Had he not started playing until 16 years old, he would not be anywhere near the player he is today. If Steph Curry didn’t start playing basketball until he was 16, he wouldn’t be in the NBA and probably wouldn’t even have played college basketball. These guys are where they are because of intense basketball training starting at an early age.

Give more kids in Baltimore City and PG County access to intense lacrosse and I guarantee you will get better lacrosse players in the DMV and Baltimore areas. But is that what the current lacrosse community wants?

I am not talking outcomes, only access. Quota's across all sports throughout youth sports. That would be the goal of the more diversity in sports like lacrosse. I propose take it to all sports. Let skill rise to the top once we have equal access. And as mentioned, interest level should not be a reason for altering this.

Think about how different football, basketball, baseball/softball, lacrosse, swimming, track and field, soccer would look? Far more diversity across both the college and professional levels that would mirror our society...which is the goal of DEI, right?

Unfortunately, that’s not what they want in sports in this country. There is a thing called white supremacy. It exists in sports.

You should refrain from name calling and mud slinging. That's what people do when they are losing the argument and they know it.

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Anonymous wrote:If we should have quota's for lacrosse to ensure DEI, then I propose we have quota's in all sports. If we were to use race, I would propose using the lates census data by race. Whether someone is interested or particularly skilled in the sport or not shouldn't matter, just like Title IX. This way, we can ensure that all races are equally represented in every sport based on the population of the country. Sound good?

Sounds good, but those quotas need to be at the early ages like when the sports are first introduced to children so everyone is able to get equal preparation. Then, we can have the best athletes available by the time they mature physically.

You wouldn't have the best athletes though, hence the quota, it wouldn't be based on ability or skill, but matching up with society.

You don’t need the quotas after every one gets the same access to preparation. After everyone matures physically, we will see who the best athletes are. Is there a reason you don’t want each kid to have the same access to preparation and training?

I assume you are just a troll, you aren't going to turn some kids into LeBron James no matter how much time they are shooting hoops at a young age.

Lebron started playing basketball when he was 8 years old. Had he not started playing until 16 years old, he would not be anywhere near the player he is today. If Steph Curry didn’t start playing basketball until he was 16, he wouldn’t be in the NBA and probably wouldn’t even have played college basketball. These guys are where they are because of intense basketball training starting at an early age.

Give more kids in Baltimore City and PG County access to intense lacrosse and I guarantee you will get better lacrosse players in the DMV and Baltimore areas. But is that what the current lacrosse community wants?

I am not talking outcomes, only access. Quota's across all sports throughout youth sports. That would be the goal of the more diversity in sports like lacrosse. I propose take it to all sports. Let skill rise to the top once we have equal access. And as mentioned, interest level should not be a reason for altering this.

Think about how different football, basketball, baseball/softball, lacrosse, swimming, track and field, soccer would look? Far more diversity across both the college and professional levels that would mirror our society...which is the goal of DEI, right?

Unfortunately, that’s not what they want in sports in this country. There is a thing called white supremacy. It exists in sports.

AAU basketball would look dramatically different if we had quotas based on race. As would lacrosse. Correct. Remember, the proposed is not based on skill. Only access. D1 football teams would be far more diverse than they are today. Same for hoops. Think bout the boy who drops football or basketball case he doesn’t think that sport is for “him”…

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Anonymous wrote:If we should have quota's for lacrosse to ensure DEI, then I propose we have quota's in all sports. If we were to use race, I would propose using the lates census data by race. Whether someone is interested or particularly skilled in the sport or not shouldn't matter, just like Title IX. This way, we can ensure that all races are equally represented in every sport based on the population of the country. Sound good?

Sounds good, but those quotas need to be at the early ages like when the sports are first introduced to children so everyone is able to get equal preparation. Then, we can have the best athletes available by the time they mature physically.

You wouldn't have the best athletes though, hence the quota, it wouldn't be based on ability or skill, but matching up with society.

You don’t need the quotas after every one gets the same access to preparation. After everyone matures physically, we will see who the best athletes are. Is there a reason you don’t want each kid to have the same access to preparation and training?

I assume you are just a troll, you aren't going to turn some kids into LeBron James no matter how much time they are shooting hoops at a young age.

Lebron started playing basketball when he was 8 years old. Had he not started playing until 16 years old, he would not be anywhere near the player he is today. If Steph Curry didn’t start playing basketball until he was 16, he wouldn’t be in the NBA and probably wouldn’t even have played college basketball. These guys are where they are because of intense basketball training starting at an early age.

Give more kids in Baltimore City and PG County access to intense lacrosse and I guarantee you will get better lacrosse players in the DMV and Baltimore areas. But is that what the current lacrosse community wants?

I am not talking outcomes, only access. Quota's across all sports throughout youth sports. That would be the goal of the more diversity in sports like lacrosse. I propose take it to all sports. Let skill rise to the top once we have equal access. And as mentioned, interest level should not be a reason for altering this.

Think about how different football, basketball, baseball/softball, lacrosse, swimming, track and field, soccer would look? Far more diversity across both the college and professional levels that would mirror our society...which is the goal of DEI, right?

Unfortunately, that’s not what they want in sports in this country. There is a thing called white supremacy. It exists in sports.

You should refrain from name calling and mud slinging. That's what people do when they are losing the argument and they know it.

There was no name calling.

[Anonymous]

The word white supremacy is akin to calling somebody a Nazi or a racist. If you called somebody that in a bar, it would likely start a fight. Try to make your points on the merits without attacking people, and you will be taken more seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:The word white supremacy is akin to calling somebody a Nazi or a racist. If you called somebody that in a bar, it would likely start a fight. Try to make your points on the merits without attacking people, and you will be taken more seriously.

You would loved to control the narrative wouldn’t you?

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Anonymous wrote:The word white supremacy is akin to calling somebody a Nazi or a racist. If you called somebody that in a bar, it would likely start a fight. Try to make your points on the merits without attacking people, and you will be taken more seriously.

You would loved to control the narrative wouldn’t you?

There were no attacks. White supremacy is real and you need to be a Nazi, KKK member, or an open racist to be a supporter of the system of white supremacy. Some supporters of the system, don’t want the fact they are supporting white supremacy to be exposed.

This guy is basically saying there is no white supremacy in sports because I’m white and I say so.

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Anonymous wrote:The word white supremacy is akin to calling somebody a Nazi or a racist. If you called somebody that in a bar, it would likely start a fight. Try to make your points on the merits without attacking people, and you will be taken more seriously.

You would loved to control the narrative wouldn’t you?

There were no attacks. White supremacy is real and you need to be a Nazi, KKK member, or an open racist to be a supporter of the system of white supremacy. Some supporters of the system, don’t want the fact they are supporting white supremacy to be exposed.

This guy is basically saying there is no white supremacy in sports because I’m white and I say so.

If you are the one constantly using "white supremacy" in this thread, you are indeed, watering it down and its losing meaning.

some rednecks who likely don't watch much women's lacrosse heckling players as they warm up isn't white supremacy. Those people are trash and don't belong anywhere near a campus. It also has really nothing to do with the original article in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Basic and simple question, but I am struggling to answer - why ARE top basketball and football teams so heavily black?

I think there are far more whites that play both sports. Check your local little league basketball and football teams and what will you see? And throughout America there are far more white kids playing these sports. I will even bet the percentage of black kids playing organized football and basketball throughout the US is less than 12%. Once you get to the elite levels maybe you see more blacks, but that’s another topic.

That is the question I meant to ask. Why are the top HS, college, and pro football and basketball teams disproportionately black?

Nobody can say for sure, but I have a theory.

In 1524, Giovanni da Verrazano described encountering Black people when he landed in coastal Carolina. He described these Black natives “well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed”. It sounds to me like Verrazano discovered an athletic race of people when he landed here. It very could be that the athletic people you speak of are descendants of the group Verrazano discovered. And that group of people could be some of the better athletes in the world.

Now some of the posters are making the point that we have many naturally athletic kids who are not allowed to reach their potential as athletes in this country due to the lack of resources. While they have the ability, they have not been able to build their skill level to match. And if we truly want to see the best athletes in this country, we should give all children access to sports early to prevent the lack of resources from becoming a factor. As kids get older, they can decide which sport they want to play and let the best athletes form the best teams without race being a factor.

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Anonymous wrote:Basic and simple question, but I am struggling to answer - why ARE top basketball and football teams so heavily black?

I think there are far more whites that play both sports. Check your local little league basketball and football teams and what will you see? And throughout America there are far more white kids playing these sports. I will even bet the percentage of black kids playing organized football and basketball throughout the US is less than 12%. Once you get to the elite levels maybe you see more blacks, but that’s another topic.

That is the question I meant to ask. Why are the top HS, college, and pro football and basketball teams disproportionately black?

Nobody can say for sure, but I have a theory.

In 1524, Giovanni da Verrazano described encountering Black people when he landed in coastal Carolina. He described these Black natives “well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed”. It sounds to me like Verrazano discovered an athletic race of people when he landed here. It very could be that the athletic people you speak of are descendants of the group Verrazano discovered. And that group of people could be some of the better athletes in the world.

Now some of the posters are making the point that we have many naturally athletic kids who are not allowed to reach their potential as athletes in this country due to the lack of resources. While they have the ability, they have not been able to build their skill level to match. And if we truly want to see the best athletes in this country, we should give all children access to sports early to prevent the lack of resources from becoming a factor. As kids get older, they can decide which sport they want to play and let the best athletes form the best teams without race being a factor.

So to you, everything is based on race. Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Basic and simple question, but I am struggling to answer - why ARE top basketball and football teams so heavily black?

I think there are far more whites that play both sports. Check your local little league basketball and football teams and what will you see? And throughout America there are far more white kids playing these sports. I will even bet the percentage of black kids playing organized football and basketball throughout the US is less than 12%. Once you get to the elite levels maybe you see more blacks, but that’s another topic.

That is the question I meant to ask. Why are the top HS, college, and pro football and basketball teams disproportionately black?

Nobody can say for sure, but I have a theory.

In 1524, Giovanni da Verrazano described encountering Black people when he landed in coastal Carolina. He described these Black natives “well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed”. It sounds to me like Verrazano discovered an athletic race of people when he landed here. It very could be that the athletic people you speak of are descendants of the group Verrazano discovered. And that group of people could be some of the better athletes in the world.

Now some of the posters are making the point that we have many naturally athletic kids who are not allowed to reach their potential as athletes in this country due to the lack of resources. While they have the ability, they have not been able to build their skill level to match. And if we truly want to see the best athletes in this country, we should give all children access to sports early to prevent the lack of resources from becoming a factor. As kids get older, they can decide which sport they want to play and let the best athletes form the best teams without race being a factor.

So to you, everything is based on race. Interesting.

Let’s be honest, we are dealing with white supremacy. People keep trying to deflect the racism, but that’s just what it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Basic and simple question, but I am struggling to answer - why ARE top basketball and football teams so heavily black?

I think there are far more whites that play both sports. Check your local little league basketball and football teams and what will you see? And throughout America there are far more white kids playing these sports. I will even bet the percentage of black kids playing organized football and basketball throughout the US is less than 12%. Once you get to the elite levels maybe you see more blacks, but that’s another topic.

That is the question I meant to ask. Why are the top HS, college, and pro football and basketball teams disproportionately black?

Nobody can say for sure, but I have a theory.

In 1524, Giovanni da Verrazano described encountering Black people when he landed in coastal Carolina. He described these Black natives “well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed”. It sounds to me like Verrazano discovered an athletic race of people when he landed here. It very could be that the athletic people you speak of are descendants of the group Verrazano discovered. And that group of people could be some of the better athletes in the world.

Now some of the posters are making the point that we have many naturally athletic kids who are not allowed to reach their potential as athletes in this country due to the lack of resources. While they have the ability, they have not been able to build their skill level to match. And if we truly want to see the best athletes in this country, we should give all children access to sports early to prevent the lack of resources from becoming a factor. As kids get older, they can decide which sport they want to play and let the best athletes form the best teams without race being a factor.

So to you, everything is based on race. Interesting.

Let’s be honest, we are dealing with white supremacy. People keep trying to deflect the racism, but that’s just what it is.

Really? if that is what you honestly think, then propose an intelligent solution without sounding like a racist yourself. And ask yourself if whatever you propose would make the girl in the WAPO story more likely, or less likely, to integrate and succeed in the sport.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Basic and simple question, but I am struggling to answer - why ARE top basketball and football teams so heavily black?

I think there are far more whites that play both sports. Check your local little league basketball and football teams and what will you see? And throughout America there are far more white kids playing these sports. I will even bet the percentage of black kids playing organized football and basketball throughout the US is less than 12%. Once you get to the elite levels maybe you see more blacks, but that’s another topic.

That is the question I meant to ask. Why are the top HS, college, and pro football and basketball teams disproportionately black?

Nobody can say for sure, but I have a theory.

In 1524, Giovanni da Verrazano described encountering Black people when he landed in coastal Carolina. He described these Black natives “well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed”. It sounds to me like Verrazano discovered an athletic race of people when he landed here. It very could be that the athletic people you speak of are descendants of the group Verrazano discovered. And that group of people could be some of the better athletes in the world.

Now some of the posters are making the point that we have many naturally athletic kids who are not allowed to reach their potential as athletes in this country due to the lack of resources. While they have the ability, they have not been able to build their skill level to match. And if we truly want to see the best athletes in this country, we should give all children access to sports early to prevent the lack of resources from becoming a factor. As kids get older, they can decide which sport they want to play and let the best athletes form the best teams without race being a factor.

So to you, everything is based on race. Interesting.

Let’s be honest, we are dealing with white supremacy. People keep trying to deflect the racism, but that’s just what it is.

White supremacy must only be in lacrosse cause I am pretty sure there are a ton of sports that race has nothing to do with. Access comes down to dollars rew elite youth sports. From AAU to Pop Warner to figure skating and golf all take money. Race maybe a byproduct of access, but lack of dollars (or ability to spread limited dollars across a number of sports) is what limits participation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Basic and simple question, but I am struggling to answer - why ARE top basketball and football teams so heavily black?

I think there are far more whites that play both sports. Check your local little league basketball and football teams and what will you see? And throughout America there are far more white kids playing these sports. I will even bet the percentage of black kids playing organized football and basketball throughout the US is less than 12%. Once you get to the elite levels maybe you see more blacks, but that’s another topic.

That is the question I meant to ask. Why are the top HS, college, and pro football and basketball teams disproportionately black?

Nobody can say for sure, but I have a theory.

In 1524, Giovanni da Verrazano described encountering Black people when he landed in coastal Carolina. He described these Black natives “well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed”. It sounds to me like Verrazano discovered an athletic race of people when he landed here. It very could be that the athletic people you speak of are descendants of the group Verrazano discovered. And that group of people could be some of the better athletes in the world.

Now some of the posters are making the point that we have many naturally athletic kids who are not allowed to reach their potential as athletes in this country due to the lack of resources. While they have the ability, they have not been able to build their skill level to match. And if we truly want to see the best athletes in this country, we should give all children access to sports early to prevent the lack of resources from becoming a factor. As kids get older, they can decide which sport they want to play and let the best athletes form the best teams without race being a factor.

So to you, everything is based on race. Interesting.

Let’s be honest, we are dealing with white supremacy. People keep trying to deflect the racism, but that’s just what it is.

Really? if that is what you honestly think, then propose an intelligent solution without sounding like a racist yourself. And ask yourself if whatever you propose would make the girl in the WAPO story more likely, or less likely, to integrate and succeed in the sport.

There would have been no need for the story, if the sport was available and introduced to more girls in community’s like the one the young lady lived in atleast by the age of 7.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Basic and simple question, but I am struggling to answer - why ARE top basketball and football teams so heavily black?

I think there are far more whites that play both sports. Check your local little league basketball and football teams and what will you see? And throughout America there are far more white kids playing these sports. I will even bet the percentage of black kids playing organized football and basketball throughout the US is less than 12%. Once you get to the elite levels maybe you see more blacks, but that’s another topic.

That is the question I meant to ask. Why are the top HS, college, and pro football and basketball teams disproportionately black?

Nobody can say for sure, but I have a theory.

In 1524, Giovanni da Verrazano described encountering Black people when he landed in coastal Carolina. He described these Black natives “well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed”. It sounds to me like Verrazano discovered an athletic race of people when he landed here. It very could be that the athletic people you speak of are descendants of the group Verrazano discovered. And that group of people could be some of the better athletes in the world.

Now some of the posters are making the point that we have many naturally athletic kids who are not allowed to reach their potential as athletes in this country due to the lack of resources. While they have the ability, they have not been able to build their skill level to match. And if we truly want to see the best athletes in this country, we should give all children access to sports early to prevent the lack of resources from becoming a factor. As kids get older, they can decide which sport they want to play and let the best athletes form the best teams without race being a factor.

So to you, everything is based on race. Interesting.

Let’s be honest, we are dealing with white supremacy. People keep trying to deflect the racism, but that’s just what it is.

White supremacy must only be in lacrosse cause I am pretty sure there are a ton of sports that race has nothing to do with. Access comes down to dollars rew elite youth sports. From AAU to Pop Warner to figure skating and golf all take money. Race maybe a byproduct of access, but lack of dollars (or ability to spread limited dollars across a number of sports) is what limits participation.

Racism is a dominant factor in every sport in the US.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basic and simple question, but I am struggling to answer - why ARE top basketball and football teams so heavily black?

I think there are far more whites that play both sports. Check your local little league basketball and football teams and what will you see? And throughout America there are far more white kids playing these sports. I will even bet the percentage of black kids playing organized football and basketball throughout the US is less than 12%. Once you get to the elite levels maybe you see more blacks, but that’s another topic.

That is the question I meant to ask. Why are the top HS, college, and pro football and basketball teams disproportionately black?

Nobody can say for sure, but I have a theory.

In 1524, Giovanni da Verrazano described encountering Black people when he landed in coastal Carolina. He described these Black natives “well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed”. It sounds to me like Verrazano discovered an athletic race of people when he landed here. It very could be that the athletic people you speak of are descendants of the group Verrazano discovered. And that group of people could be some of the better athletes in the world.

Now some of the posters are making the point that we have many naturally athletic kids who are not allowed to reach their potential as athletes in this country due to the lack of resources. While they have the ability, they have not been able to build their skill level to match. And if we truly want to see the best athletes in this country, we should give all children access to sports early to prevent the lack of resources from becoming a factor. As kids get older, they can decide which sport they want to play and let the best athletes form the best teams without race being a factor.

So to you, everything is based on race. Interesting.

Let’s be honest, we are dealing with white supremacy. People keep trying to deflect the racism, but that’s just what it is.

White supremacy must only be in lacrosse cause I am pretty sure there are a ton of sports that race has nothing to do with. Access comes down to dollars rew elite youth sports. From AAU to Pop Warner to figure skating and golf all take money. Race maybe a byproduct of access, but lack of dollars (or ability to spread limited dollars across a number of sports) is what limits participation.

Racism is a dominant factor in every sport in the US.

Good excuse if your kid sucks at a sport...my kid can't figure skate...must be cause she isn't asian...