Sub protest

Anonymous
Subs should absolutely get paid more.

I subbed for $15. For a year. It's not worth it. You only work half of the days. It's exhausting, in part because the kids don't know or trust you.

They absolutely deserve at least double that. Especially because in the time of COVID they don't have any idea what kind of disease risk they'll be encountering every day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about they pay full-time teachers who sign a year-long contract, no more than 10 days of in-person absence etc, $5,500+ a month and call it day?

Why pay subs (DCPS retirees) $9,000/mo? Get teachers for a year instead.


And this is why you need to pay qualified subs more money. Your calculations are all out of whack. Currently the sub pay was $15/hr, that is now the new minimum wage in DC. It should be $20 minimum, $25 with a degree, and $30 for retired or new teachers. You got to put more money into education if you want more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Man I pay a college babysitter more than a sub makes. I'm not rich, just a fed making under $90K before taxes. Pretty sure subbing a public school class of 30 kids is harder than playing with my 4 yo and 2 yo.


+1

They could make more in cash just finding babysitting gigs while school is closed than substituting. I don’t blame anyone for not taking this on for $17 an hour or whatever barely over minimum wage amount is being offered.
Anonymous
Of course they should pay more. They can’t find subs because the pay is appalling. Setting aside who deserves what, this is simple market economics. Pay more and you’ll get more takers. We need more takers, ergo we need to pay more.
Anonymous
People who are multiplying and comparing this to newbie teachers are totally missing the point. Newbie teachers get benefits and job security and a year of seniority, whereas subs get none of the above. Don’t be daft.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s retired teachers only, it doesn’t have anything to do with certification. I’m a certified DCPS teacher that substitutes, I have young children that my parents want to watch and like the flexibility to only work on those days. I am not eligible for the increased rate. Also, even if a substitute teacher works every school day there are not benefits available. So unless you get health insurance somewhere else you’re out of luck. There aren’t enough substitutes because no one who doesn’t have money and benefits coming from somewhere else can afford to do it.


They're retired...why would they need benefits? Anyone over 65 qualifies for free healthcare via medicare? They don't need a retirement account because they're already retired. Sick leave...they can just not sign up to sub that day.


Medicare isn’t free
Anonymous
So did the subs actually strike?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about they pay full-time teachers who sign a year-long contract, no more than 10 days of in-person absence etc, $5,500+ a month and call it day?

Why pay subs (DCPS retirees) $9,000/mo? Get teachers for a year instead.


How are you getting $9,000 a month? The average month has about 20 teaching days. At $300/day that’s $6,000 a month, not $9,000, which is not too far above the $5,500 you proposed.
Anonymous
Is there a pool of salaried (plus benefits) subs? or is it all just individual contracts?
Anonymous
I have been a person on here who regularly comments that teachers are making plenty at 100k a year.

Even I think sub pay is too low.
Anonymous
I used to sub ten years ago. The pay is too low. And the estimation of teaching days is not a factor as a person is day to day. There is no guarantee (even for long term positions) that you will be there the next day. Paired with zero health benefits, $300 per day is more than reasonable. Many of the kids are unvaccinated; a class can be closed at any time. If you are covid-exposed, the sub then has to self quarantine for 5-14 days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have been a person on here who regularly comments that teachers are making plenty at 100k a year.

Even I think sub pay is too low.


That’s the end of the pay scale WTF. 100k in DC is nothing. But I agree subs need more money.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have been a person on here who regularly comments that teachers are making plenty at 100k a year.

Even I think sub pay is too low.


That’s the end of the pay scale WTF. 100k in DC is nothing. But I agree subs need more money.


I understand that you struggle to get by on your salary of 300k per year, but the median household income in DC is $92,266 so you are objectively wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have been a person on here who regularly comments that teachers are making plenty at 100k a year.

Even I think sub pay is too low.


That’s the end of the pay scale WTF. 100k in DC is nothing. But I agree subs need more money.


I understand that you struggle to get by on your salary of 300k per year, but the median household income in DC is $92,266 so you are objectively wrong.


Teachers deserve more than median wage.

And 300k would be fine. Kidding I’m thinking more 150k.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have been a person on here who regularly comments that teachers are making plenty at 100k a year.

Even I think sub pay is too low.


That’s the end of the pay scale WTF. 100k in DC is nothing. But I agree subs need more money.


I understand that you struggle to get by on your salary of 300k per year, but the median household income in DC is $92,266 so you are objectively wrong.


Teachers deserve more than median wage.

And 300k would be fine. Kidding I’m thinking more 150k.


You have confused wage with HHI.
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