Maryland morons driving

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Anonymous wrote:Look Marylanders, if there are dual turning left lanes onto a 3 lane road, the inside left turning lane must turn into the furthest left lane on the 3 lane road unless dotted lines indicate otherwise. The outside turning lane is allowed to turn into the middle or outside lanes on the 3 lane road. I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly gotten into accidents or been run off the road by moronic Marylanders who are in the inside turning lanes of a dual left turning lane who decide to turn into the middle and even into the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Learn how to drive you MD clowns.

I'm not sure this statement is correct. At the very least, it seems ill advised to change lanes during the turn as there could be a car that turns right onto the same road on red without stopping which most people seem to do.

She is wrong. You can’t take “either” lane.

If somebody is turning right into what she calls the outside lane, she will be cutting that car off.

Typically, if there are 2 left turn lanes at intersection, those lanes will get a dedicated left turn arrow, indicating when they have the right of way. If they have the right of way, oncoming traffic must yield to them before turning right on red.

That doesn’t mean you can just take the outside lane. The rule is to turn into your designated lane which is the middle on.

[Anonymous]

When driving, it should never be ambiguous what your intentions are. When you are driving, you stay in your lane and signal to make a lane change. This is no different when turning left. If we were to extrapolate to an hyperbolic example and say you are turning left onto a 10 lane road, you don't get to cross 9 lanes of traffic to get into the right lane. The correct course of action is to get into your designated lane and then make safe lane changes to the right. If it isn't possible for a safe lane change, you need to find another way to make your turn. Driving law doesn't change because your destination is inconvenient

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look Marylanders, if there are dual turning left lanes onto a 3 lane road, the inside left turning lane must turn into the furthest left lane on the 3 lane road unless dotted lines indicate otherwise. The outside turning lane is allowed to turn into the middle or outside lanes on the 3 lane road. I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly gotten into accidents or been run off the road by moronic Marylanders who are in the inside turning lanes of a dual left turning lane who decide to turn into the middle and even into the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Learn how to drive you MD clowns.

I'm not sure this statement is correct. At the very least, it seems ill advised to change lanes during the turn as there could be a car that turns right onto the same road on red without stopping which most people seem to do.

Yup, clearly a MD driver who doesn't know how to drive.

The rule of thumb when making a left turn is to turn into to the lane closest to you. If there are 2 left turning lanes onto a 3 lane road, clearly the inside left turning lane's closest lane is the left most lane on the 3 lane road. The outside left turning lane can turn into the middle lane or the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Even when there are dotted lines on the road literally showing you how to do these turns, I almost get into accident with moronic MD drivers, because the inside turning lane doesn't want to wait in the line of cars in the left most lane on the 3 lane road, therefore they try to invade the middle lane and drive right over the dotted lines for lane turning. MD drivers are the worst.

Not hard. Turn into the lane closest to you.

You are wrong you can’t take the outside lane.

You’re missing the larger point: people in the leftmost left turn lane may only turn into the leftmost lane. They can’t drift into the middle lane. That’s what OP is talking about. Regardless of whether vehicles in the other turn lane (the rightmost of the two left turn lanes) turn into the middle lane or rightmost lane, the vehicles in the leftmost turn lane can only turn into the leftmost lane.

DP. This is Driver's Ed 101, people. Immediate PP is right. You turn into "your lane." If you are in the leftmost turn lane, you make your turn into the leftmost lane. If you are turning right, you are "supposed" to turn into the rightmost lane of travel but most people don't do this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look Marylanders, if there are dual turning left lanes onto a 3 lane road, the inside left turning lane must turn into the furthest left lane on the 3 lane road unless dotted lines indicate otherwise. The outside turning lane is allowed to turn into the middle or outside lanes on the 3 lane road. I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly gotten into accidents or been run off the road by moronic Marylanders who are in the inside turning lanes of a dual left turning lane who decide to turn into the middle and even into the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Learn how to drive you MD clowns.

I'm not sure this statement is correct. At the very least, it seems ill advised to change lanes during the turn as there could be a car that turns right onto the same road on red without stopping which most people seem to do.

She is wrong. You can’t take “either” lane.

If somebody is turning right into what she calls the outside lane, she will be cutting that car off.

Typically, if there are 2 left turn lanes at intersection, those lanes will get a dedicated left turn arrow, indicating when they have the right of way. If they have the right of way, oncoming traffic must yield to them before turning right on red.

That doesn’t mean you can just take the outside lane. The rule is to turn into your designated lane which is the middle on.

Nonetheless, the reason why you can’t take the outside lane is not because you might cut off drivers who are supposed to yield to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look Marylanders, if there are dual turning left lanes onto a 3 lane road, the inside left turning lane must turn into the furthest left lane on the 3 lane road unless dotted lines indicate otherwise. The outside turning lane is allowed to turn into the middle or outside lanes on the 3 lane road. I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly gotten into accidents or been run off the road by moronic Marylanders who are in the inside turning lanes of a dual left turning lane who decide to turn into the middle and even into the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Learn how to drive you MD clowns.

I'm not sure this statement is correct. At the very least, it seems ill advised to change lanes during the turn as there could be a car that turns right onto the same road on red without stopping which most people seem to do.

Yup, clearly a MD driver who doesn't know how to drive.

The rule of thumb when making a left turn is to turn into to the lane closest to you. If there are 2 left turning lanes onto a 3 lane road, clearly the inside left turning lane's closest lane is the left most lane on the 3 lane road. The outside left turning lane can turn into the middle lane or the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Even when there are dotted lines on the road literally showing you how to do these turns, I almost get into accident with moronic MD drivers, because the inside turning lane doesn't want to wait in the line of cars in the left most lane on the 3 lane road, therefore they try to invade the middle lane and drive right over the dotted lines for lane turning. MD drivers are the worst.

Not hard. Turn into the lane closest to you.

You are wrong you can’t take the outside lane.

The point of the original post was that the inside left turning lanes are turning into the middle lane, which causes near accidents all of the time because the outside turning lanes turn (rightfully) into the middle lane. Typical Maryland drivers...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look Marylanders, if there are dual turning left lanes onto a 3 lane road, the inside left turning lane must turn into the furthest left lane on the 3 lane road unless dotted lines indicate otherwise. The outside turning lane is allowed to turn into the middle or outside lanes on the 3 lane road. I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly gotten into accidents or been run off the road by moronic Marylanders who are in the inside turning lanes of a dual left turning lane who decide to turn into the middle and even into the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Learn how to drive you MD clowns.

I'm not sure this statement is correct. At the very least, it seems ill advised to change lanes during the turn as there could be a car that turns right onto the same road on red without stopping which most people seem to do.

Yup, clearly a MD driver who doesn't know how to drive.

The rule of thumb when making a left turn is to turn into to the lane closest to you. If there are 2 left turning lanes onto a 3 lane road, clearly the inside left turning lane's closest lane is the left most lane on the 3 lane road. The outside left turning lane can turn into the middle lane or the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Even when there are dotted lines on the road literally showing you how to do these turns, I almost get into accident with moronic MD drivers, because the inside turning lane doesn't want to wait in the line of cars in the left most lane on the 3 lane road, therefore they try to invade the middle lane and drive right over the dotted lines for lane turning. MD drivers are the worst.

Not hard. Turn into the lane closest to you.

You are wrong you can’t take the outside lane.

The point of the original post was that the inside left turning lanes are turning into the middle lane, which causes near accidents all of the time because the outside turning lanes turn (rightfully) into the middle lane. Typical Maryland drivers...

Okay but she also posted wrong information so it was corrected.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look Marylanders, if there are dual turning left lanes onto a 3 lane road, the inside left turning lane must turn into the furthest left lane on the 3 lane road unless dotted lines indicate otherwise. The outside turning lane is allowed to turn into the middle or outside lanes on the 3 lane road. I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly gotten into accidents or been run off the road by moronic Marylanders who are in the inside turning lanes of a dual left turning lane who decide to turn into the middle and even into the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Learn how to drive you MD clowns.

I'm not sure this statement is correct. At the very least, it seems ill advised to change lanes during the turn as there could be a car that turns right onto the same road on red without stopping which most people seem to do.

She is wrong. You can’t take “either” lane.

If somebody is turning right into what she calls the outside lane, she will be cutting that car off.

Typically, if there are 2 left turn lanes at intersection, those lanes will get a dedicated left turn arrow, indicating when they have the right of way. If they have the right of way, oncoming traffic must yield to them before turning right on red.

That doesn’t mean you can just take the outside lane. The rule is to turn into your designated lane which is the middle on.

Nonetheless, the reason why you can’t take the outside lane is not because you might cut off drivers who are supposed to yield to you.

You really just can’t admit when you are wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look Marylanders, if there are dual turning left lanes onto a 3 lane road, the inside left turning lane must turn into the furthest left lane on the 3 lane road unless dotted lines indicate otherwise. The outside turning lane is allowed to turn into the middle or outside lanes on the 3 lane road. I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly gotten into accidents or been run off the road by moronic Marylanders who are in the inside turning lanes of a dual left turning lane who decide to turn into the middle and even into the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Learn how to drive you MD clowns.

I'm not sure this statement is correct. At the very least, it seems ill advised to change lanes during the turn as there could be a car that turns right onto the same road on red without stopping which most people seem to do.

Yup, clearly a MD driver who doesn't know how to drive.

The rule of thumb when making a left turn is to turn into to the lane closest to you. If there are 2 left turning lanes onto a 3 lane road, clearly the inside left turning lane's closest lane is the left most lane on the 3 lane road. The outside left turning lane can turn into the middle lane or the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Even when there are dotted lines on the road literally showing you how to do these turns, I almost get into accident with moronic MD drivers, because the inside turning lane doesn't want to wait in the line of cars in the left most lane on the 3 lane road, therefore they try to invade the middle lane and drive right over the dotted lines for lane turning. MD drivers are the worst.

Not hard. Turn into the lane closest to you.

You are wrong you can’t take the outside lane.

The point of the original post was that the inside left turning lanes are turning into the middle lane, which causes near accidents all of the time because the outside turning lanes turn (rightfully) into the middle lane. Typical Maryland drivers...

Okay but she also posted wrong information so it was corrected.

do we know op is a woman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look Marylanders, if there are dual turning left lanes onto a 3 lane road, the inside left turning lane must turn into the furthest left lane on the 3 lane road unless dotted lines indicate otherwise. The outside turning lane is allowed to turn into the middle or outside lanes on the 3 lane road. I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly gotten into accidents or been run off the road by moronic Marylanders who are in the inside turning lanes of a dual left turning lane who decide to turn into the middle and even into the right most lane on the 3 lane road. Learn how to drive you MD clowns.

I'm not sure this statement is correct. At the very least, it seems ill advised to change lanes during the turn as there could be a car that turns right onto the same road on red without stopping which most people seem to do.

She is wrong. You can’t take “either” lane.

If somebody is turning right into what she calls the outside lane, she will be cutting that car off.

Typically, if there are 2 left turn lanes at intersection, those lanes will get a dedicated left turn arrow, indicating when they have the right of way. If they have the right of way, oncoming traffic must yield to them before turning right on red.

That doesn’t mean you can just take the outside lane. The rule is to turn into your designated lane which is the middle on.

Nonetheless, the reason why you can’t take the outside lane is not because you might cut off drivers who are supposed to yield to you.

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NP. We all agree leftmost to leftmost. No question. Cased closed.
Where I live, we can and do take the outmost lane from the other turn lane because it is a protected left with arrows.
After we are established in these lanes (remember establishing yourself in each lane?) we do the proper checks and move to the middle if we desire. It works out perfectly, and nobody assumes they have the middle, causing a crash.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I learned to drive in MD, and lived/drove in VA for 20+ years. Lived in the beltway area my entire life, so I feel like I can offer an objective opinion.

There are good drivers and there are bad drivers, regardless of what your plate says. If someone is unfamiliar with a road or traffic pattern, they will probably make mistakes. Give a little grace.

Also, blanket generalizations are not constructive and to some degree harmful.

If you need to get acclimated to the road then pull over to get your bearings. Don't speed through DC neighborhoods, fail to stop BEHIND THE LINE at stop signs, ignore no turn on red etc. When MD drivers stop speeding through my neighborhood (FYI the speed limit is 20 mph on any road in DC unless otherwise posted), start stopping for pedestrians in crosswalks, and stop putting my kids at risk then maybe I will give them some grace.

PP here, I wholeheartedly agree - I have very little patience for unsafe actions by bad drivers, especially when pedestrians and cyclists who stand very little chance of surviving being hit by a car are involved. I'm willing to bet that there are unsafe DC drivers speeding through your neighborhood as well as MD drivers. I'm also willing to bet the MD residents will complain about DC drivers speeding through their neighborhoods. My point is bad drivers are bad drivers, and it doesn't really help to generalize that all X are Y. Unfortunately we are fighting human nature and the divisive politics in our region are a prime example.

Sure and I have no patience for unsafe DC drivers either. But the MD driver stereotype exists for a reason- MD drivers are often coming in from the Beltway or higher speed roads and are used to deriving faster and where there are few to no pedestrians. They expect to be able to drive the same speed for their entire commutes, even when cutting through residential neighborhoods. I live near the MD border and always look at license plates of speeding drivers and they are more than 50% of the speeders, etc

Also, DC has the mechanism to collect on speeding and other tickets from DC drivers but not MD drivers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I learned to drive in MD, and lived/drove in VA for 20+ years. Lived in the beltway area my entire life, so I feel like I can offer an objective opinion.

There are good drivers and there are bad drivers, regardless of what your plate says. If someone is unfamiliar with a road or traffic pattern, they will probably make mistakes. Give a little grace.

Also, blanket generalizations are not constructive and to some degree harmful.

If you need to get acclimated to the road then pull over to get your bearings. Don't speed through DC neighborhoods, fail to stop BEHIND THE LINE at stop signs, ignore no turn on red etc. When MD drivers stop speeding through my neighborhood (FYI the speed limit is 20 mph on any road in DC unless otherwise posted), start stopping for pedestrians in crosswalks, and stop putting my kids at risk then maybe I will give them some grace.

PP here, I wholeheartedly agree - I have very little patience for unsafe actions by bad drivers, especially when pedestrians and cyclists who stand very little chance of surviving being hit by a car are involved. I'm willing to bet that there are unsafe DC drivers speeding through your neighborhood as well as MD drivers. I'm also willing to bet the MD residents will complain about DC drivers speeding through their neighborhoods. My point is bad drivers are bad drivers, and it doesn't really help to generalize that all X are Y. Unfortunately we are fighting human nature and the divisive politics in our region are a prime example.

Sure and I have no patience for unsafe DC drivers either. But the MD driver stereotype exists for a reason- MD drivers are often coming in from the Beltway or higher speed roads and are used to deriving faster and where there are few to no pedestrians. They expect to be able to drive the same speed for their entire commutes, even when cutting through residential neighborhoods. I live near the MD border and always look at license plates of speeding drivers and they are more than 50% of the speeders, etc

Also, DC has the mechanism to collect on speeding and other tickets from DC drivers but not MD drivers.

Would it comfort you to know that DC drivers have the exact same stereotype in both Virginia and Maryland? I'm not sure what your point is. Bad drivers are bad drivers. It's laughable to draw stereotypes based on an imaginary porous line drawn on a map.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:statistics show that VA drivers are actually the worse.

I find MD drivers are way too cautious.

VA drivers are way too aggressive and discourteous.

I see you've not driven in PG County much.

[Anonymous]

Virginia drivers will cut you off, DC drivers will flip you off, but Maryland drivers will crash into your house.

[Anonymous]

Just spend some time at the Chevy Chase circle. Most MD drivers enter/exit on CT ave which means that they speed up to get into and around the circle regardless of cars in the circle, yield signs, pedestrians, speed, accidents already in the circle, lane lines, etc.

Yes, more than once I have watch an MD car enter the circle and hit a cop car at an accident in the circle. WTF people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:statistics show that VA drivers are actually the worse.

I find MD drivers are way too cautious.

VA drivers are way too aggressive and discourteous.

Not true. Look at Alexandria, for example. It's frequently on lists of "worst drivers" - but it has nothing to do with where the 'bad driving' takes place, everything (EVERYTHING) to do with the sh!tty MD drivers coming over across the bridge for VA jobs. Spend 10 minutes on Rt 1, and you'd see that the "statistics" are a lie.

Maryland drivers are the worst.