Ketogenic diet on Cleveland Clinic Journal volume 88.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think keto is FINALLY on its death bed. People no longer buy that "lose weight fast" BS. It doesn't work regarding weightloss, and it's terribly unhealthy.

Demonizing fat in the 90''s was idiotic, and demonizing carbs in the 2000's was equally moronic.

You’ve never tried it, have you?
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve done it for many years, so yes you can stay on it.

No, your body doesn’t need carbs, and neither does your brain, no, keto does not destroy your kidneys.


Please cite medical research.

NP and too lazy to go looking, but on super low carb diets, your body manufactures them itself. If you need proof that the human body doesn’t need carbs, the existence of humans in the Arctic Circle, who survived pretty much on meat and fish (they ate plants and thus carbohydrates where available, but it’s not like the Arctic is a rich source of plant-based foods), is it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_cuisine

I’m not defending a keto diet for widespread consumption - nothing could be more tedious than listening to a friend calculate macros - but no, we don’t really need carbs. They sure are tasty!


It's a less efficient process. It requires more fuel and produces less energy. That's why keto may be good for weight loss for some people but it's not a good way to live.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve done it for many years, so yes you can stay on it.

No, your body doesn’t need carbs, and neither does your brain, no, keto does not destroy your kidneys.


Please cite medical research.

NP and too lazy to go looking, but on super low carb diets, your body manufactures them itself. If you need proof that the human body doesn’t need carbs, the existence of humans in the Arctic Circle, who survived pretty much on meat and fish (they ate plants and thus carbohydrates where available, but it’s not like the Arctic is a rich source of plant-based foods), is it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_cuisine

I’m not defending a keto diet for widespread consumption - nothing could be more tedious than listening to a friend calculate macros - but no, we don’t really need carbs. They sure are tasty!


It's a less efficient process. It requires more fuel and produces less energy. That's why keto may be good for weight loss for some people but it's not a good way to live.


Your GI system, from the top to the bottom is a lot healthier when whole grains are consumed. The fiber provided from fruits and vegetables is not
The same and while it is beneficial in different ways, the soluble fiber from legumes and whole grains has heath benefits you don’t get from low carb vegetables. Some oatmeal for breakfast a few days per week (hi oatmeal lady, love you), some quinoa with salmon and vegetables for dinner, a spouted whole grain wrap filled with Veggies and hummous…these things are GOOD for you. There is plenty of research on this. Eating carbs shouldn’t mean rice and pasta all day every day. But a couple servings of whole grains most days is definitely beneficial for all people and isnt what is making anyone obese
Anonymous
The diet is best for people who want to control diabetes ,pre diabetes or kick start weight loss.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve done it for many years, so yes you can stay on it.

No, your body doesn’t need carbs, and neither does your brain, no, keto does not destroy your kidneys.


Please cite medical research.

NP and too lazy to go looking, but on super low carb diets, your body manufactures them itself. If you need proof that the human body doesn’t need carbs, the existence of humans in the Arctic Circle, who survived pretty much on meat and fish (they ate plants and thus carbohydrates where available, but it’s not like the Arctic is a rich source of plant-based foods), is it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_cuisine

I’m not defending a keto diet for widespread consumption - nothing could be more tedious than listening to a friend calculate macros - but no, we don’t really need carbs. They sure are tasty!


Well you and/or PP shouldn't come here stating things as facts if you're not prepared to back up your assertions.

Just because something "can" be done doesn't mean it should or that its healthy or sustainable long term. Improve your relationship with food and then you won't need to do any weird diets that eliminate or demonize entire food groups.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve done it for many years, so yes you can stay on it.

No, your body doesn’t need carbs, and neither does your brain, no, keto does not destroy your kidneys.


Please cite medical research.

NP and too lazy to go looking, but on super low carb diets, your body manufactures them itself. If you need proof that the human body doesn’t need carbs, the existence of humans in the Arctic Circle, who survived pretty much on meat and fish (they ate plants and thus carbohydrates where available, but it’s not like the Arctic is a rich source of plant-based foods), is it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_cuisine

I’m not defending a keto diet for widespread consumption - nothing could be more tedious than listening to a friend calculate macros - but no, we don’t really need carbs. They sure are tasty!


Well you and/or PP shouldn't come here stating things as facts if you're not prepared to back up your assertions.

Just because something "can" be done doesn't mean it should or that its healthy or sustainable long term. Improve your relationship with food and then you won't need to do any weird diets that eliminate or demonize entire food groups.

You’re right. The entire population of the Arctic Circle never existed.
Anonymous
My best friends daughter was on the Keto diet. She has epilepsy. Her doctors are baffled by the Keto craze in otherwise healthy people. It is a last resort measure for seizure reduction.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a medical reason for needing to do keto, it's not healthy. Your body needs carbs.


Do you people even click on links, cause it feels like you’re a bot programmed to repeat this sentence in every thread about keto


Well first I don't see any links in this thread.

Secondly, its just science, period. You want a quick fix and you're destroying your kidneys and metabolism in the process. Eat a balanced diet and no need for keto or any other latest fad diet of the moment.


+100

Carbs are essential for healthy brain function, but OP is clearly faltering.

Not to mention your GI tract and colon. If you're too stupid to differentiate between a sweet potato and a cupcake, then there's no point in having a discussion.


LOL!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think keto is FINALLY on its death bed. People no longer buy that "lose weight fast" BS. It doesn't work regarding weightloss, and it's terribly unhealthy.

Demonizing fat in the 90''s was idiotic, and demonizing carbs in the 2000's was equally moronic.

You’ve never tried it, have you?


I have--it's not sustainable. Hence why 99% of people gain the weight back, plus more.

You know what *IS* sustainable? No restrictions, eat less, move more. Lost a large chunk of weight and have maintained it for 5+ years.

Also no GI issues due to abundant fiber (ie, carbs)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve done it for many years, so yes you can stay on it.

No, your body doesn’t need carbs, and neither does your brain, no, keto does not destroy your kidneys.


Please cite medical research.

NP and too lazy to go looking, but on super low carb diets, your body manufactures them itself. If you need proof that the human body doesn’t need carbs, the existence of humans in the Arctic Circle, who survived pretty much on meat and fish (they ate plants and thus carbohydrates where available, but it’s not like the Arctic is a rich source of plant-based foods), is it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_cuisine

I’m not defending a keto diet for widespread consumption - nothing could be more tedious than listening to a friend calculate macros - but no, we don’t really need carbs. They sure are tasty!


Well you and/or PP shouldn't come here stating things as facts if you're not prepared to back up your assertions.

Just because something "can" be done doesn't mean it should or that its healthy or sustainable long term. Improve your relationship with food and then you won't need to do any weird diets that eliminate or demonize entire food groups.

You’re right. The entire population of the Arctic Circle never existed.


Arctic Circle?? haha. Can you stop referencing this already? They did not have long lives and their lifestyle of hunting/fishing all day and maintaining body temperature in subzero climate are vastly different from yours thus their metabolic needs cannot be accurately compared to your DC work from home, get my groceries delivered lifestyle.

Carbohydrates are your bodies optimal source for energy and the easiest to utilize. Yes, protein and fats can be converted to energy, but it isn't optimal, takes added work, and stresses your organs long term.
Anonymous
I’m having two bananas and a pomegranate for lunch. What a house of horrors will these evil carbs wreck on my body!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m having two bananas and a pomegranate for lunch. What a house of horrors will these evil carbs wreck on my body!


Seeding a pomegranate takes a lot of effort. That will help reduce your blood sugar spike. Good thinking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m having two bananas and a pomegranate for lunch. What a house of horrors will these evil carbs wreck on my body!




Candy bars are better than that.
Who eats two bananas?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m having two bananas and a pomegranate for lunch. What a house of horrors will these evil carbs wreck on my body!




Candy bars are better than that.
Who eats two bananas?

Yes, indeed! I am such a glutton eating so much candy in the form of bananas!
How much weight will I gain?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m having two bananas and a pomegranate for lunch. What a house of horrors will these evil carbs wreck on my body!




Candy bars are better than that.
Who eats two bananas?

Yes, indeed! I am such a glutton eating so much candy in the form of bananas!
How much weight will I gain?




There was an experiment by Dennis Pollock on YouTube his blood sugar level was better with Snickers candy bar than bananas.
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