Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher

[Anonymous]

Are there no security officers in the school? Anybody trained to defuse and de escalate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there no security officers in the school? Anybody trained to defuse and de escalate?

There are. But as we keep telling you, law enforcement doesn’t prevent crime. LEO only responds to crime. An SRO in the building didn’t make much difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids need a lot more support after the last 18 months. Many have experienced serious long-term trauma (abuse, death of loved ones, etc). Sadly these incidents are not surprising. I hope the teacher will be okay. They are on the receiving end of so much mistreatment, just like flight attendants, nurses, etc.

Ok but fk you and your kid and anyone else who condones this because of last 18 months.

This post is out of line. PP didn't condone anything of the sort.

Mmkay. Substitute “condone” with “make excuses for” then if you prefer. The point still stands.

No excuse made. The reality is a lot of kids are really, really messed up right now. Society needs to be prepared for an increase in violent school incidents and address things accordingly to prevent them as much as possible. I don’t see you offering any solutions to actually combat the problem. Prevention is key. There were multiple incidents of violence in high schools in Maryland today. It’s widespread.

And you’re still doing it.

Newsflash: I don’t need to have a “solution.” Millions of kids came back to school after distance learning without turning into feral, aggressive wild animals.

For the ones who didn’t? Not my responsibility, not the school’s responsibility — the near adult high school student and their parents’ responsibility.

The “solution” is if you physically attack a teacher, charges are pressed, you go to juvie or jail, as age applicable, and you are no longer welcomed at school to endanger others. Here’s some info on alternative school for behavioral issues or GED classes.

Next!

It’s almost as though you don’t care how these violent occurrences will affect other students, teachers, and administrators on a daily basis. Just because it’s not everyone’s direct responsibility doesn’t mean it won’t have a negative impact on those experiencing it, including bystanders.

Teacher here. I’ve worked in poor and suburban schools where fights is child’s play.

Very simple: child or not I dont give a flying fack. When my integrity is compromised I will defend myself with anything and everything. That includes chokeholds to put a student to sleep or a good old knuckle sandwich to the mouth. Either way I’m not going home maimed or disabled. I have a family. And even if I didn’t have one I’d still act the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen the video. The kid is obviously the aggressor but when he grabs the teachers device the teacher reacts with pulling back and then shoving. Then they’re rolling and punching. The kid started it but the teacher should’ve just let him snatch the device. Instinctually I get it, your defenses kick in. But you cannot ever ever ever touch a student. I’m a teacher and wouldn’t be surprised if he gets fired. This is one of those things you can’t come back from.

the teacher has a right to defend himself and prevent his property from being stollen. This isn't a 4th grader

I understand that, but it’s a serious issue to ever lay a hand on a child. He is a minor. I’m not saying he’s a good kid. But we don’t know what was happening before this and the facts are a teacher fought a kid. It is very very hard to retain employment once you’ve fought with a kid, justified or not. We aren’t even supposed to break up fights the kids are in because of the liability.

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He is a minor who assaulted an adult. He should be treated like an adult. The teacher was perfectly reasonable in defending himself. That "minor" needs to be put into jail and should not be allowed back in school.

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Anonymous wrote:So, you don’t want to actually come up with any proactive solutions to prevent crime and violence in schools, just allow it to happen and then lock up the offenders? I support consequences after the fact, but am also interested in prevention.

Best prevention = better parenting

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[Anonymous]

How can we find out if he got expelled only from school (who you be surprised with LCPS? Haha) or expelled from the school district entirely?

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Anonymous wrote:How can we find out if he got expelled only from school (who you be surprised with LCPS? Haha) or expelled from the school district entirely?

You can’t. It’s private education info protected by FERPA. Get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:student should be in jail for a very long time.

Article says teacher is suspended. Think we are missing some facts

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids need a lot more support after the last 18 months. Many have experienced serious long-term trauma (abuse, death of loved ones, etc). Sadly these incidents are not surprising. I hope the teacher will be okay. They are on the receiving end of so much mistreatment, just like flight attendants, nurses, etc.

Ok but fk you and your kid and anyone else who condones this because of last 18 months.

This post is out of line. PP didn't condone anything of the sort.

Mmkay. Substitute “condone” with “make excuses for” then if you prefer. The point still stands.

No excuse made. The reality is a lot of kids are really, really messed up right now. Society needs to be prepared for an increase in violent school incidents and address things accordingly to prevent them as much as possible. I don’t see you offering any solutions to actually combat the problem. Prevention is key. There were multiple incidents of violence in high schools in Maryland today. It’s widespread.

And you’re still doing it.

Newsflash: I don’t need to have a “solution.” Millions of kids came back to school after distance learning without turning into feral, aggressive wild animals.

For the ones who didn’t? Not my responsibility, not the school’s responsibility — the near adult high school student and their parents’ responsibility.

The “solution” is if you physically attack a teacher, charges are pressed, you go to juvie or jail, as age applicable, and you are no longer welcomed at school to endanger others. Here’s some info on alternative school for behavioral issues or GED classes.

Next!

It’s almost as though you don’t care how these violent occurrences will affect other students, teachers, and administrators on a daily basis. Just because it’s not everyone’s direct responsibility doesn’t mean it won’t have a negative impact on those experiencing it, including bystanders.

Teacher here. I’ve worked in poor and suburban schools where fights is child’s play.

Very simple: child or not I dont give a flying fack. When my integrity is compromised I will defend myself with anything and everything. That includes chokeholds to put a student to sleep or a good old knuckle sandwich to the mouth. Either way I’m not going home maimed or disabled. I have a family. And even if I didn’t have one I’d still act the same way.

You shouldn’t be a teacher. No good teacher has this cross their mind

[Anonymous]

Was this tug of war with laptop? Because it reads like teacher pushed kid.
As the student passes the teacher — who has not been identified — the student grabs the teacher’s laptop with one hand and then appears to hit the computer as he tries to rip it from the teacher’s grasp.

As the teacher pulls the laptop away from the student he moves forward, shoving the student backward onto a cluster of desks, at which at least two other students are seated.

While the two struggle for control, the camera’s view changes for several seconds as the person filming moves away from the fracas.

When the camera is turned back toward the altercation, the teacher can be seen attempting to grasp the student’s arms and push him down onto the desk. The student then begins to stand up before being shoved backward to the ground, apparently hitting the back of his head on the edge of the desk.

[Anonymous]

Yup. The teacher is toast and will get fired. The kid was a better fighter, but the teacher actively engaged in a fight with a minor.

[Anonymous]

HS teacher here. I would absolutely defend myself against anyone, including a student, if I was ever attacked. Most of my students are much bigger than me and I would defend myself in any way possible if I was in danger of physical harm.

I would NOT struggle with them for any electronic device or try to get it back. They could take it. I would not physically get in their way if they tried to leave. Let them go. That’s the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:HS teacher here. I would absolutely defend myself against anyone, including a student, if I was ever attacked. Most of my students are much bigger than me and I would defend myself in any way possible if I was in danger of physical harm.

I would NOT struggle with them for any electronic device or try to get it back. They could take it. I would not physically get in their way if they tried to leave. Let them go. That’s the difference.

I’m a high school teacher and that’s what I said. First of all, the fact they were in a verbal fight to begin with is bad. You don’t get into power struggles with kids. When the kid reaches for the device he should have let him take it and smash it or whatever. It’s school property, why should we go creating a physical altercation over school property? So yea the kid is the aggressor but unfortunately the totality of events makes it clear the teacher had other options for deescalation he chose not to use and when the kid grabs the computer the teacher is the one that escalates it to a physical altercation.

[Anonymous]

I know I have some friends worried about this October TikTok thing. Not me. If a high school student ever hits me, I am 100% pressing charges. Tell your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I have some friends worried about this October TikTok thing. Not me. If a high school student ever hits me, I am 100% pressing charges. Tell your kids.

Omg chill lol. That list is so obviously fake. Kids are not going to plan a year of monthly schemes out in advance and then make sure we all know. The list is a stupid joke, you really think teenagers are going to think “hey call April’s challenge “grab some eggs” because it’s theft related but also an Easter reference”? Come on. They don’t want to smack your backside I promise. I’m a teacher and I’m embarrassed for any teacher who is believing any of that is going to happen, you sound hysterical.