Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, a handsome really smart clean-cut kid.

Look how fast they pivoted from trans to autistic. These RWNJs are something else.

Could his defense use autism as a mitigating factor against the death penalty?

Why do you assume autism here?

I mean that's a classic response. Shooter was a minority, blame radicalization. Shooter was white? Talk about mental illness.

autism is not a 'mental illness'.

It’s a mental disorder and invisible disability.

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Anonymous wrote:I vowed not to come back to this thread, but I just wanted to say as a Dem I’m so impressed with the Utah governor. He said this is watershed moment, but how remains to be seen though he hopes it’s used as an off ramp. He called out everyone, including naming GOP and MAGA to be civil and stop political violence.

He talked about Dems and Republicans coming together in Utah last night to talk about moving forward and even mentioned the toll watching violence on social media affects us.

Bravo! I see the tiniest light of hope thanks to this Republican. May he inspire people.

Utah and Mormons in general are pretty chill conservatives, despite Mormonism’s origins as a teen rape cult.

On the other hand, Mike Lee, it his family got eaten by Reaganism.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to claim the alleged shooter is a centrist or lefty...

https://bsky.app/profile/iwriteok.bsky.social/post/3lynfxustfc2e

Nope.

So he was engaging with some really nasty right wing stuff on the internet as a teen and his parents apparently did no investigation into what he was copying. Great.

How are you getting that? The Governor of Utah at the press conference said the stuff they had found at the crime scene had anti-fascist writings on it. Those posts are all from 2020 - a lot can happen in 5 years. His family apparently also told investigators he became a lot more “political” recently.

You know that fascism is bad, right?

Can we not even agree on that?

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

My college teens had never heard of him, when he was shot, they were told by friends that “he promotes gun violence and says horrific things”
So I guess it depends on who/where you are

My high school teen asked me about him last week so I explained scamming via 990s and explained that he's basically a con artist with rizz.

Face it, MOST “internet influencer” or “podcasters” never get traction and are drop out scam artists. Pushing cosmetics, pushing their personal option, pushing their Huak Tuan viral event for five mins.

Then there are the talented people who use them for civil discourse (Kirk) or broadening others horizons (Kelsey bros).

If you can’t tell the difference you’re not listening

I work in the Influencer and podcasting world, and have worked with people like Kirk.

There’s nothing talented about them. What they do is 100% understand the game, which is to be as controversial as possible to get views and virality. When we train new clients, we train them how to speak in ways that are triggering and leave no nuance/room for actual discourse. We also know to pick out debate opponents who will also be triggering in some way - dumb, LGBTQ+, something that will cause the internet to gang up on them and side with the Influencer.

It’s very hard for me to empathize with Kirk because when you get into that world, and over time you become more and more extreme to get more and more views, you know exactly what you’re signing up for. Everyone I’ve worked with has received death threats, had their homes broken into, etc. The women I know who do Only Fans basically live in fortresses because there are so many attempts to harm them.

I’m not gonna celebrate his death, but I’m not going to pretend he was out there doing God’s work. He had extensive training in how to go viral, and that was the motivation behind his content. If cuddling puppies would have made him money, believe me, he would have been doing that instead.

And if you don’t believe me, pick your favorite podcaster/influencer and scroll back on their timeline 10+ years. You’ll see that most start as fairly balanced and nuanced, and over time become more and more extreme because that’s what they need to do to get views. That one chick, Pearl whatever - she started with giving financial advice, nobody watched it, so she started with the whole weird anti-feminism thing (despite her not even following her own advice).

Best post I have read on here in a long time. Trump used the same playbook to propel himself to the presidency. For many years he was close with the Democratic Party. He wanted to run for office, even mentioned it to the Clintons, but the Dems all thought of him as a clown. He seized on some conspiratorial stuff, like Obama's citizenship, and realized that he could ride right wing discontent to the White House. His only goal in the WH is to enrich himself. He cares nothing for our country and the American people. He's a textbook narcissist and constantly craves attention and adoration. As time goes on, he makes more and more outrageous statements and gets away with it. He's the most dangerous political figure in our nation's history.

This is why I never vote for career politicians and only ones with real world experience managing or governing people, budget, departments.

But Trump isn't a career politician and he's the worst. The new online political celebrity blogger / podcaster crowd is who you need to worry more about than career politicians who at least understand the stakes of the game.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is saying college radicalized him. Ffs.

What do you think radicalized him?

Sounds like he was radicalized before college? See pictures of children holding guns and kid dressed up as a hate symbol meme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He is from very conservative and religious area. The NYPost is nit saying anything about him. Looks like this is a red on red thing.

Yes social media enlightened the conservative boy, he got woke, and pow pow!

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to claim the alleged shooter is a centrist or lefty...

https://bsky.app/profile/iwriteok.bsky.social/post/3lynfxustfc2e

Nope.

So he was engaging with some really nasty right wing stuff on the internet as a teen and his parents apparently did no investigation into what he was copying. Great.

How are you getting that? The Governor of Utah at the press conference said the stuff they had found at the crime scene had anti-fascist writings on it. Those posts are all from 2020 - a lot can happen in 5 years. His family apparently also told investigators he became a lot more “political” recently.

You know that fascism is bad, right?

Can we not even agree on that?

Also, a lot of conservatives are against fascism. And were against the teachings of Charlie Kirk.

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Anonymous wrote:Checking out his mom FACEBOOK account seems like he was right wing

According to the press briefing - he hated Charlie Kirk. And the messages inscribed on the ballistics indicates he was echoing the narrative of leftists - fascist.

Fact

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, a handsome really smart clean-cut kid.

Look how fast they pivoted from trans to autistic. These RWNJs are something else.

Could his defense use autism as a mitigating factor against the death penalty?

Why do you assume autism here?

I mean that's a classic response. Shooter was a minority, blame radicalization. Shooter was white? Talk about mental illness.

autism is not a 'mental illness'.

It’s a mental disorder and invisible disability.

It’s neurological, not mental

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He is from very conservative and religious area. The NYPost is nit saying anything about him. Looks like this is a red on red thing.

Yes social media enlightened the conservative boy, he got woke, and pow pow!

Provide your proof that he got woke. He stayed conservative.

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Anonymous wrote:He is from very conservative and religious area. The NYPost is nit saying anything about him. Looks like this is a red on red thing.

Wrong. Comments the investigators got from friends and family indicate he has recently become more political. He hated Charlie Cook and inscribed with “hey, fascist! Catch”. Sounds like he was radicalized by the far left

Pretty much

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Anonymous wrote:Checking out his mom FACEBOOK account seems like he was right wing

According to the press briefing - he hated Charlie Kirk. And the messages inscribed on the ballistics indicates he was echoing the narrative of leftists - fascist.

Fact

Conservatives hate Charlie Kirk too.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is saying college radicalized him. Ffs.

What do you think radicalized him?

He barely went to college according to the presser. Also, I find it odd that anyone would say anyone was radicalized because of college because thousands of college kids showed up to hear Charlie in every campus he attended, most of them in MAGA hats.

Please stop 🙏🏻

If anything, sounds like college didn't get a chance to soften his views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Waiting for DT to retract his "radical leftists" comment....

Cue the skeleton covered in cobwebs meme, waiting waiting waiting

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to claim the alleged shooter is a centrist or lefty...

https://bsky.app/profile/iwriteok.bsky.social/post/3lynfxustfc2e

Nope.

So he was engaging with some really nasty right wing stuff on the internet as a teen and his parents apparently did no investigation into what he was copying. Great.

How are you getting that? The Governor of Utah at the press conference said the stuff they had found at the crime scene had anti-fascist writings on it. Those posts are all from 2020 - a lot can happen in 5 years. His family apparently also told investigators he became a lot more “political” recently.

You know that fascism is bad, right?

Can we not even agree on that?

Also, a lot of conservatives are against fascism. And were against the teachings of Charlie Kirk.

Ok, I just wanted to make sure that no one was trying to generally associate being against fascism with something negative.