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Anonymous
My mistake. Didn't see that second team part.  But that's dead on about the 05 ECNL players that are leaving. Id also say a few of the second team kids are just looking for a new development environment.
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Anonymous
| My DD is looking at McLean. Is there an issue with player development or lack thereof? Also, it sounds like ECNL at younger ages is struggling. Why is that when the older ages are excelling? |
Anonymous
Because the older ages had established teams |
Anonymous
I think the older teams have remained mostly intact from prior to the start of DA whereas the younger ages have been diluted due to the draw of GDA. Another factor is that historically, younger age group teams that try to play a possession style do not fare as well against the kick and run style. |
Anonymous
you can't develop in a toxic environment. if your dd is a ulittle, you will get a different coach new to the club every 1-2 years while watching longtime coaches leave or get forced out due to the infighting. |
Anonymous
| Why are so many leaving the 05 Mclean team? Clyde Watson is supposedly a great coach and they're high in the standings |
Anonymous
New kid in town called DA. |
Anonymous
In regards to player development I don’t think there’s a problem at the older age groups. But if everyone is honest most of the kids in the older age groups aren’t Mclean players that are “homegrown”. It’s that way for many “elite” teams it’s not just a Mclean thing, it’s the soccer world. Some kids don’t develop as fast as others so they may be/are replaced by kids who did. For the girls who left for a different environment, they are looking for a place that offers higher level training than they would have received playing ccl 2. Kids who left the ECNL team I’m sure had their own reasons, some wanted to train more often, others didn’t like the two a day tourney setup, all/most didn’t like the idea of no league games in the spring when they reach high school so other kids could play high school while they have nothing except showcases. |
Anonymous
This is an accurate description of the past but not the present. I venture that geographically it was impossible to attract like the past being wedged in between Spirit VA and Arl. Soccer, both of which have the girls DA now. So ECNL players will be homegrown or nearby 2nd teamers trying to find a spot somewhere. When C.W. eventually decides to leave, that is probably the nail in the coffin. |
Anonymous
This. And, it depends how you define "great coach". The word on the street is that Clyde's communication with parents was nonexistent until he realized that no one had registered for try-outs. There are not major red flags with him being a jerk to girls on the team like some are posting about other age groups, but also chose not to address some issues between girls this year that even led to one kid getting injured. Clyde is great at putting together a team of really good soccer players who get results at the older age groups and get placed into college soccer if they so choose. But, as a PP just mentioned, those girls don't necessarily come the whole way through McLean's program. He isn't necessarily "developing" really good soccer players - he is choosing players who are already on that track. I would also point out that Clyde has been able to do this thus far because they were the only ECNL/"elite" game in town for a long time. With so many opportunities locally to now participate in these national showcases and different "elite" options, it will be interesting to see whether he can actually develop soccer players and get the same results. |
Anonymous
Exactly, have to agree. But as a parent on that team I can’t recall that being the issue on an injury. Of course I could be wrong and if so then add that to the list of reasons to switch. Whoa. |
Anonymous
Girls are social minded and much more unlikely to leave teams they have been on for years to put themselves out there on a new team unless all their friends go too. Unless a player is very ambitious (whereas boys are much more likely to change teams to the best team they can get on even if they don't know anyone. I see boys do it all the time). So the older teams are much more likely to stay intact, as girls won't leave what they know. The younger age groups aren't established teams, and those girls are still young enough that relationships won't be a strong anchor on their decisions. So for 05 and younger, they will simply go to whatever club/environment seems the best long term developmental choice. As a PP pointed out, they may not just want a spring of showcases. They may want to continue with a full year of club. |
Anonymous
| (I'm speaking of the top players of course). The rest will do what they have always done: seek the best placement they can with the remaining options not taken by top players already. |
Anonymous
| So bascially, MYS is not unlike Bethesda. The coaching skill-set is assembling good players and coaching them to win as opposssed to developing players. |
Anonymous
Are you kidding me? Did you just say that girls don't leave teams because their besties are on the team and they aren't as ambitious as boys? The older girls aren't leaving Mclean because they are already well into their recruiting years and have no reason to leave, not because they aren't ambitious. The younger girls are leaving because there are more options, and the DA model, which is finally available to them, is attractive. Wow. Just wow. |