Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

JR was a violent psycho drug addict deviant. He got off on cutting his victims and playing with blood. He went too far this time.


Glad he’s dead and I hope he suffered.

Oh BB’s mom….

Big Mama is big mad.

Joes hoes are big mad he dead.

reasonable people are mad that he was gunned down in cold blood. Don't worry this shows all the hallmarks of the perfect crime. I'd be depressed and driving like a dufus at the prospect of going to prison too. tick tok till the ap tells all. .

Gunned down in cold blood? He killed Christine Banfield with a knife and then tried to attack her husband.

I know that’s what you want to believe but I’m sorry that’s not where the evidence is pointing.

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

JR was a violent psycho drug addict deviant. He got off on cutting his victims and playing with blood. He went too far this time.


Glad he’s dead and I hope he suffered.

Oh BB’s mom….

Big Mama is big mad.

Joes hoes are big mad he dead.

reasonable people are mad that he was gunned down in cold blood. Don't worry this shows all the hallmarks of the perfect crime. I'd be depressed and driving like a dufus at the prospect of going to prison too. tick tok till the ap tells all. .

Gunned down in cold blood? He killed Christine Banfield with a knife and then tried to attack her husband.

Is there any evidence (“evidence” meaning something beyond what the Au pair and BB say happened) that JR tried to attack BB? Any injuries to BB? Anything JR says on the 911 calls? Blood patterns on the floor / walls indicating what was happening? Basically, is there literally anything out there to support what you’re saying?

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

JR was a violent psycho drug addict deviant. He got off on cutting his victims and playing with blood. He went too far this time.


Glad he’s dead and I hope he suffered.

Tik Tok.

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

No, pal. Just no.

Once JR was shot IN THE HEAD, it really doesn't matter if he had stabbed CB or not. (Although, you have quite the flare for fantasy.)

There is no evidence that JR was holding a knife after he was shot. (most likely b/c he was in excruciating pain from taking a bullet to the eye/head) There is no evidence that AP or anyone was in IMMINENT risk of serious bodily harm from JR. The most that we know about AP's version of events is that JR "moved" while he was on the ground.

Who knows what will come out at trial -- but it's going to take a LOT for AP to convince a jury that she was reasonable in believing that JR posed an imminent threat to her or others. I don't think she can do that without taking the stand and testifying that JR was coming at her or BB. Even then, the jury will rely on their common sense and the testimony of medical experts about what JR was experiencing and capable of doing with a bullet in his eye/head.

Even if JR had, in fact, stabbed CB, that still doesn't give AP the right to shoot him dead if he has already been injured enough that he poses no additional threat.

If she perceived he was going for the knife, she had a right to defend herself.

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

JR was a violent psycho drug addict deviant. He got off on cutting his victims and playing with blood. He went too far this time.


Glad he’s dead and I hope he suffered.

Tik Tok.

That’s…a social media platform.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

No, pal. Just no.

Once JR was shot IN THE HEAD, it really doesn't matter if he had stabbed CB or not. (Although, you have quite the flare for fantasy.)

There is no evidence that JR was holding a knife after he was shot. (most likely b/c he was in excruciating pain from taking a bullet to the eye/head) There is no evidence that AP or anyone was in IMMINENT risk of serious bodily harm from JR. The most that we know about AP's version of events is that JR "moved" while he was on the ground.

Who knows what will come out at trial -- but it's going to take a LOT for AP to convince a jury that she was reasonable in believing that JR posed an imminent threat to her or others. I don't think she can do that without taking the stand and testifying that JR was coming at her or BB. Even then, the jury will rely on their common sense and the testimony of medical experts about what JR was experiencing and capable of doing with a bullet in his eye/head.

Even if JR had, in fact, stabbed CB, that still doesn't give AP the right to shoot him dead if he has already been injured enough that he poses no additional threat.

If she perceived he was going for the knife, she had a right to defend herself.

Uh, he was already shot in the face and blinded… so you’re saying It was faster for her to go find a gun safe in another room, figure out how to open it, go back to the room to point that gun at him and shoot him again. … instead of running out of the room and go get the little girl and get help?

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^ but she felt safe enough to call and hang up on 911 twice

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Anonymous wrote:^ but she felt safe enough to call and hang up on 911 twice

As well as go towards not only the sound of possible gun fire but also flesh stabbing sounds while the child you are in charge of caring for is now in the house thanks to you and or her father.

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

No, pal. Just no.

Once JR was shot IN THE HEAD, it really doesn't matter if he had stabbed CB or not. (Although, you have quite the flare for fantasy.)

There is no evidence that JR was holding a knife after he was shot. (most likely b/c he was in excruciating pain from taking a bullet to the eye/head) There is no evidence that AP or anyone was in IMMINENT risk of serious bodily harm from JR. The most that we know about AP's version of events is that JR "moved" while he was on the ground.

Who knows what will come out at trial -- but it's going to take a LOT for AP to convince a jury that she was reasonable in believing that JR posed an imminent threat to her or others. I don't think she can do that without taking the stand and testifying that JR was coming at her or BB. Even then, the jury will rely on their common sense and the testimony of medical experts about what JR was experiencing and capable of doing with a bullet in his eye/head.

Even if JR had, in fact, stabbed CB, that still doesn't give AP the right to shoot him dead if he has already been injured enough that he poses no additional threat.

If she perceived he was going for the knife, she had a right to defend herself.

The only evidence supporting that would have to be her testimony. She'd have to take the stand at trial.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

No, pal. Just no.

Once JR was shot IN THE HEAD, it really doesn't matter if he had stabbed CB or not. (Although, you have quite the flare for fantasy.)

There is no evidence that JR was holding a knife after he was shot. (most likely b/c he was in excruciating pain from taking a bullet to the eye/head) There is no evidence that AP or anyone was in IMMINENT risk of serious bodily harm from JR. The most that we know about AP's version of events is that JR "moved" while he was on the ground.

Who knows what will come out at trial -- but it's going to take a LOT for AP to convince a jury that she was reasonable in believing that JR posed an imminent threat to her or others. I don't think she can do that without taking the stand and testifying that JR was coming at her or BB. Even then, the jury will rely on their common sense and the testimony of medical experts about what JR was experiencing and capable of doing with a bullet in his eye/head.

Even if JR had, in fact, stabbed CB, that still doesn't give AP the right to shoot him dead if he has already been injured enough that he poses no additional threat.

If she perceived he was going for the knife, she had a right to defend herself.

She will have to convince a jury that it was reasonable to believe JR was trying to get a knife, and able to be an imminent threat to someone's life in his condition. Perhaps if he was on drugs, it might be possible. My life experience tells me that a guy who is shot in the head and eye is not capable of attacking others...but let's see what the evidence and experts say.

My take: jurors will not believe that JR posed a threat when he was shot the 2nd time.

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Anonymous wrote:The common theme seems to be that she hasn't made a sensical decision throughout the entire process.

Also, having an affair isn't a crime. So regardless of any "conspiracy" if they had hooked up before, it's not unreasonable to believe that they would hook up after. It doesn't require a conspiracy to see that.

She’s not on trial because she hooked up with BB. She’s on trial because she killed a man and it is hard to see how it’s justified.

She wakes up in the middle of the night and JR is in her room? Sure.

She saves CB’s life and CB confirms that without the Au pair’s action, she would’ve died, because JR had BB in a chokehold or something? Sure.

But here, the Au pair sought out the situation and then - even though BB was armed and had already shot JR - she runs to a safe, grabs another gun and fatally shoots JR? And ends up not “saving” anyone’s life anyway? She made a dumb decision to use lethal force and she should go to prison for it.

Or, the guy who had apparently just stabbed a woman in the neck was moving towards her and her husband who was focused on rendering aide.

I think you have the facts of the story wrong. She shot Joe after Brendan already shot Joe and stabbed Christine. Christine and Brendan being Julianas’ employers and also Brendan’s affair partner.

There has been ZERO evidence shared by the police or the courts on who stabbed CB and which order the shoot/stabbing occurred. Prosecutors have to prove that JR wasn't a threat, which is much harder if he is the stabber. AP has a decent self-defense claim, since JR was larger and more physically fit, and the medical examiner has already testified in the prelim that she that JR could potentially see and move. It's also much more likely that JR was the stabber, because BB would have to be insanely quick to shoot JR, pickup the knife, and stab CB, all before AP entered. Why wouldn't CB resist if BB picked up the knife and came at her? She's much less likely to defend against JR, who was already using the knife on her for playtime, and was standing right next to her. She wouldn't expect that he'd actually cut her in anger.

It's just as likely that JR got infuriated, cut CB, and then tried to attack BB, who shot him, and went to his wife. AP then enters the room, freaks out, starts to call 911, see's JR still trying to move, gets the other gun for safety, and ends up shooting him when he goes for the knife again. The 911 call hangups is also potentially in her favor, since it shows she wanted to call police, but was probably freaking out at the situation. If we can hear the second call, it might give some idea into her state of mind, but it's logical she'd be panicking heavily. Initial reports said that she was barely able to say "My friend is hurt", and BB had to give directions to the house.

No, pal. Just no.

Once JR was shot IN THE HEAD, it really doesn't matter if he had stabbed CB or not. (Although, you have quite the flare for fantasy.)

There is no evidence that JR was holding a knife after he was shot. (most likely b/c he was in excruciating pain from taking a bullet to the eye/head) There is no evidence that AP or anyone was in IMMINENT risk of serious bodily harm from JR. The most that we know about AP's version of events is that JR "moved" while he was on the ground.

Who knows what will come out at trial -- but it's going to take a LOT for AP to convince a jury that she was reasonable in believing that JR posed an imminent threat to her or others. I don't think she can do that without taking the stand and testifying that JR was coming at her or BB. Even then, the jury will rely on their common sense and the testimony of medical experts about what JR was experiencing and capable of doing with a bullet in his eye/head.

Even if JR had, in fact, stabbed CB, that still doesn't give AP the right to shoot him dead if he has already been injured enough that he poses no additional threat.

If she perceived he was going for the knife, she had a right to defend herself.

Big Mama's Xanax and Franzia must have kicked in. Until tomorrow Big Mama. Tick Tock

[Anonymous]

Here is a news clip from tonight.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/fairfax/grand-jury-indicts-au-pair-in-connection-to-mans-death-in-fairfax-county/65-7958c778-e8c6-4ed9-ad11-b695b598357c
there is a longer write up under the clip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ but she felt safe enough to call and hang up on 911 twice

Point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is a news clip from tonight.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/fairfax/grand-jury-indicts-au-pair-in-connection-to-mans-death-in-fairfax-county/65-7958c778-e8c6-4ed9-ad11-b695b598357c
there is a longer write up under the clip

thanks for this

the good people of the commonwealth of va cannot bring you back joe or christine but the wheels of justice continue to turn

rip

WE BELIEVE IN JUSTICE FOR BOTH said the grand jurors who then indicted the ap

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is a news clip from tonight.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/fairfax/grand-jury-indicts-au-pair-in-connection-to-mans-death-in-fairfax-county/65-7958c778-e8c6-4ed9-ad11-b695b598357c
there is a longer write up under the clip

thanks for this. their statement is heartening, may justice prevail.