Protests on college campuses

Anonymous
^ to clarify, I am responding to the useful fool that said the events of Oct 7 didn’t happen. SMFH
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The protests are not only on the campuses of USC and Columbia. In the DC region, GWU's encampment with area colleges and universities' students joining in at DC/GWU campus. What effect if any will this have? Many have compared '23+'24 to the 60s/Vietnam.


This is nothing like Vietnam.


Vietnam was an organic coalescence for humanity. This is a malignant well-funded manipulation campaign of well-meaning but very ignorant young people.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is a very good letter. And the students who wrote it signed their names.



Great. They are welcome to write how they feel and their thoughts on the mattter.

Other Jewish people on campus feel differently and some have participated in the protests, like Jonathan Ben-Menachem. You can read his article here:
https://zeteo.com/p/i-am-a-jewish-student-at-columbia

I notice how the writers of this piece refer to people like Jonathan as "our Jewish peers who tokenize themselves"


You can notice all kinds of things, and keep not noticing the Jew hatred that's been unleashed since Hamas slaughtered, raped, and kidnapped 1200 Israelis on Oct 7.


The more you ignore and refuse to acknowledge the massive imbalance in atrocities committed by the Israeli side in this conflict, the less people hear you.

The more you ignore and refuse to acknowledge those atrocities and instead propagate false claims regarding the events of 10/7, the less people see you.

And the more you do both of those things while demanding that others focus only on YOUR interests and irrational feelings, the less people care about you at all.


The more these protesters pollute and vandalize college campuses, the less people hear or care about the. The more they do things like block highways, the less people hear and care about them. These strategies have been 100% asinine from the beginning.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The protests are not only on the campuses of USC and Columbia. In the DC region, GWU's encampment with area colleges and universities' students joining in at DC/GWU campus. What effect if any will this have? Many have compared '23+'24 to the 60s/Vietnam.


This is nothing like Vietnam.


Vietnam was an organic coalescence for humanity. This is a malignant well-funded manipulation campaign of well-meaning but very ignorant young people.


They're not really that well-meaning.
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Seven months into the war, the only glue holding the members of this Israeli cult together remains a fathomless hatred for anything they see as 'leftist' Why should we keep pretending? The gang from Channel 14 TV and die-hard fans of Benjamin Netanyahu would be very happy for the hostages to die in captivity

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-05-08/ty-article-opinion/.premium/netanyahu-and-his-gang-prefer-dead-hostages-to-happy-leftists/0000018f-539f-d662-a7af-7bbf95030000

This could never be published in the US. We do not have the freedom to criticize Israel. Though there are not leftists or moderates left in Israel.



This can never be shared in the US because, unlike Israel, US is the seat of power. Narratives like this or the college protests are deeply threatening to the power class.


In Israel everyone who reads that article (including the author) recognizes Israel’s right to exist. Unlike many of the US protestors.
Anonymous
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Seven months into the war, the only glue holding the members of this Israeli cult together remains a fathomless hatred for anything they see as 'leftist' Why should we keep pretending? The gang from Channel 14 TV and die-hard fans of Benjamin Netanyahu would be very happy for the hostages to die in captivity

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-05-08/ty-article-opinion/.premium/netanyahu-and-his-gang-prefer-dead-hostages-to-happy-leftists/0000018f-539f-d662-a7af-7bbf95030000

This could never be published in the US. We do not have the freedom to criticize Israel. Though there are not leftists or moderates left in Israel.



This can never be shared in the US because, unlike Israel, US is the seat of power. Narratives like this or the college protests are deeply threatening to the power class.


In Israel everyone who reads that article (including the author) recognizes Israel’s right to exist. Unlike many of the US protestors.


But in Israel no one recognizes the right to exist of a Palestinian state, the Palestinians in general or a right to defend themselves. Do Israelis and their supporters need to be held to the same standard?
Anonymous
Stunning level of brutality by the militarized state.

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Anonymous wrote:
Seven months into the war, the only glue holding the members of this Israeli cult together remains a fathomless hatred for anything they see as 'leftist' Why should we keep pretending? The gang from Channel 14 TV and die-hard fans of Benjamin Netanyahu would be very happy for the hostages to die in captivity

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-05-08/ty-article-opinion/.premium/netanyahu-and-his-gang-prefer-dead-hostages-to-happy-leftists/0000018f-539f-d662-a7af-7bbf95030000

This could never be published in the US. We do not have the freedom to criticize Israel. Though there are not leftists or moderates left in Israel.



This can never be shared in the US because, unlike Israel, US is the seat of power. Narratives like this or the college protests are deeply threatening to the power class.


In Israel everyone who reads that article (including the author) recognizes Israel’s right to exist. Unlike many of the US protestors.


But in Israel no one recognizes the right to exist of a Palestinian state, the Palestinians in general or a right to defend themselves. Do Israelis and their supporters need to be held to the same standard?


Absolutely need a Palestinian state and peace. Two questions for you. Just yes or no answers please. You can expound but do answer each question directly.

1. Do you believe in a 2-state solution - Israel’s right to exist and Palestine’s right to exist?

2 Do you condone the rape, murder, torture and kidnapping that took place on Oct 7 as “defending themselves” ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stunning level of brutality by the militarized state.



Brutality????

Kid rushed officers making an arrest, so he got tackled. Exactly what they should do.

After he was restrained, officer made sure he was ok.

Absolutely nothing wrong with what police did here. At all.

Anonymous
Hey Biden, if they haven't already, artists are gonna influence the youth voters - the ones your campaign needs!:

Scottie Andrew, CNN
"rapper Macklemore praises college students across the US who are protesting Israel’s war in Gaza, vowing that he will not vote for President Joe Biden come November.

The song, released Monday, is titled “Hind’s Hall” in reference to the new temporary name pro-Palestinian protesters at Columbia University gave to a building they occupied on campus.

With its release, the Grammy-winning rapper becomes one of the first major music artists to explicitly condemn the US government’s continued aid to Israel and praise students who are protesting their universities’ financial investments in companies tied to Israel on campuses across the US.

“The problem isn’t the protests, it’s what they’re protesting,” Macklemore raps. “It goes against what our country is funding.”

The song also criticizes the police dispatched by universities to break up protests on college campuses. Several of the schools who called on police to intervene said its encampments were unlawful and that administrators had attempted to negotiate with student protesters before police got involved.

Hind’s Hall, the name pro-Palestinian protesters gave to Columbia’s Hamilton Hall, was named for the Palestinian child Hind Rajab, who was found dead in Gaza after she became trapped in a car with six of her relatives.

They were fleeing fighting in northern Gaza when their vehicle came under Israeli fire.

Macklemore’s lyrics reference the more than 13,800 children who’ve been killed in Gaza since the beginning of the war. The song asks listeners, as well as politicians, university officials and fellow artists who’ve not spoken out against the violence in Gaza, to consider the human cost of the war: “What if you were in Gaza? What if those were your kids? If the West was pretending that you didn’t exist?”

In “Hind’s Hall,” Macklemore accuses the music industry of being “complicit in (its) platform of silence,” he sings.

He’s likely the only major artist to write a song about the conflict. Several notable musicians have signed onto the Artists 4Ceasefire letter addressed to Biden, though, including Dua Lipa, Jon Batiste and Selena Gomez. Scottish singer Annie Lennox also verbally called for a ceasefire while performing at the Grammys in February.

Macklemore has said through his social media channels that when the song is released on streaming, all the proceeds will go to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees.

Macklemore has been an outspoken supporter of Palestinians since last year. Less than two weeks after the October 7 attack on southern Israel led by Hamas, which saw the deaths of at least 1,200 people and the taking of more than 250 hostages, he shared a post in which he mourned the loss of life in both Israel and Gaza.

“My heart deeply hurts for the Israelis that lost loved ones to such an abomination,” he wrote of the October 7 attack. ”… But killing innocent humans in retaliation as collective punishment is not the answer. That is why I am supporting the people around the world who are calling for a ceasefire.”

Later in the post, he wrote, “I stand for a Free Palestine and an end to the looming genocide of its people.”

In the same post, he referenced the controversial claim that criticizing the Israeli government is antisemitic. “I can whole heartedly (sic) love my Jewish brothers and sisters while simultaneously condemning the Israeli government for their mass killings and Apartheid.”

Macklemore also appeared at a pro-Palestinian march in Washington in November. In an Instagram post shared after the event, he said that he was heartened by “Jewish and Muslim youth marching side by side, belting words of resistance together.”

Macklemore has faced accusations of antisemitism before. In 2014, he wore what he called a “random costume” of a large fake nose and thick black beard to surprise Seattle concertgoers. Several detractors, including Seth Rogen, called his costume antisemitic, prompting Macklemore to “acknowledge how the costume could, within a context of stereotyping, be ascribed to a Jewish caricature.”

The rapper has made political statements throughout his career. He was nominated for a Grammy for the 2012 song “Same Love,” which advocated for LGBTQ equality and support for same-sex marriage. In 2016, he appeared on a remix of the YG song “FDT, Pt. 2,” which stands for “F**k Donald Trump.”

Macklemore continued to speak out against Trump after he entered office. And protesters on college campuses are still speaking out against the war on Gaza, even after some universities canceled or altered commencements and have already disciplined fellow student protesters.
Anonymous
If they want to vote for Trump or sit out the 2024 election and have Trump and the white nationalists and Christian fundamentalists running the country, then we will have the republic we deserve.
Anonymous
Macklemore has not been influential in 10 years. Gen Z knows him as the guy who sang the catchy thrift store song when they were in 3rd grade.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Macklemore has not been influential in 10 years. Gen Z knows him as the guy who sang the catchy thrift store song when they were in 3rd grade.


People will not forget him for speaking out against ridiculous spending.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Stunning level of brutality by the militarized state.



Brutality????

Kid rushed officers making an arrest, so he got tackled. Exactly what they should do.

After he was restrained, officer made sure he was ok.

Absolutely nothing wrong with what police did here. At all.



This. These entitled kids don’t even know what the struggle is actually like. You rush a cop, you’re getting taken down. You break and enter, you’re probably not getting your stuff back. And no you can’t Uber Eats vegan chicken nuggets in. They have the gall to cry when there are repercussions? lol
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The protests are not only on the campuses of USC and Columbia. In the DC region, GWU's encampment with area colleges and universities' students joining in at DC/GWU campus. What effect if any will this have? Many have compared '23+'24 to the 60s/Vietnam.


This is nothing like Vietnam.


Vietnam was an organic coalescence for humanity. This is a malignant well-funded manipulation campaign of well-meaning but very ignorant young people.


This is just wrong and your refusal to see that is just evidence of how blinded you are.
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