Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

Which is why the party that us lying can’t let this go to trial, or even summary judgment.

Sorry but it's too far gone. The accusations so both sides will defend themselves. Why would Blake/Ryan settle or withdraw before trying to clear her name? Same with Justin. I don't think it will go to trial but it will last longer with more communications and evidence unrevealed.

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

I'm sure that they understand that supporting a lawsuit isn't the same as liking a social media post. Her suit mentions others. They aren't going to lie under oath for her.

And yet she is awfully vague about who those others are. I called that out pages ago.

Have any of them come out in support of her? I don't think so. You'd think they would want to curry favor with Ryan and Blake and support the victim. Unless I missed something, it's pretty much her word she has all these others supporting him. People here were conflating lack of vocal support for Baldoni as indicative of guilt, and I just don't think that's accurate. Like a PP, I'd stay out of this completely.

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Can't help but think that she refused to sign her contract because she knew all the stuff she had planned wouldn't be in it.

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

A lot of his costars weren't silently supporting him though. They were loudly supporting her. We will have to see why. No one was around the whole time.

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

I'm sure that they understand that supporting a lawsuit isn't the same as liking a social media post. Her suit mentions others. They aren't going to lie under oath for her.

And yet she is awfully vague about who those others are. I called that out pages ago.

Have any of them come out in support of her? I don't think so. You'd think they would want to curry favor with Ryan and Blake and support the victim. Unless I missed something, it's pretty much her word she has all these others supporting him. People here were conflating lack of vocal support for Baldoni as indicative of guilt, and I just don't think that's accurate. Like a PP, I'd stay out of this completely.

* supporting her

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

I'm sure that they understand that supporting a lawsuit isn't the same as liking a social media post. Her suit mentions others. They aren't going to lie under oath for her.

And yet she is awfully vague about who those others are. I called that out pages ago.

Have any of them come out in support of her? I don't think so. You'd think they would want to curry favor with Ryan and Blake and support the victim. Unless I missed something, it's pretty much her word she has all these others supporting him. People here were conflating lack of vocal support for Baldoni as indicative of guilt, and I just don't think that's accurate. Like a PP, I'd stay out of this completely.

Yes they have. Colleen Hoover, Jenny Slate, and Brandon Sklenar vocally supported her saying we didn't know the whole story.

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

A lot of his costars weren't silently supporting him though. They were loudly supporting her. We will have to see why. No one was around the whole time.

Brandon Sklenar is one.

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

Which is why the party that us lying can’t let this go to trial, or even summary judgment.

PR attack on both sides. Do think Lively/Reynolds side guessed wrong that Baldoni would back down, but maybe should have expected if claim true that Lively team wrote apology that other side refused to release. When TMZ is laughing at both sides, not a great look.

Anyone posting yet who Blake’s other high powered “dragon” is that is redacted in complaint?

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

I'm sure that they understand that supporting a lawsuit isn't the same as liking a social media post. Her suit mentions others. They aren't going to lie under oath for her.

And yet she is awfully vague about who those others are. I called that out pages ago.

Have any of them come out in support of her? I don't think so. You'd think they would want to curry favor with Ryan and Blake and support the victim. Unless I missed something, it's pretty much her word she has all these others supporting him. People here were conflating lack of vocal support for Baldoni as indicative of guilt, and I just don't think that's accurate. Like a PP, I'd stay out of this completely.

Yes they have. Colleen Hoover, Jenny Slate, and Brandon Sklenar vocally supported her saying we didn't know the whole story.

Hoover didn’t say that. She just said she found Blake nice. Very different.

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Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

Which is why the party that us lying can’t let this go to trial, or even summary judgment.

PR attack on both sides. Do think Lively/Reynolds side guessed wrong that Baldoni would back down, but maybe should have expected if claim true that Lively team wrote apology that other side refused to release. When TMZ is laughing at both sides, not a great look.

Anyone posting yet who Blake’s other high powered “dragon” is that is redacted in complaint?

People suspecting Taylor, but I think it could be any number of people.

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

Which is why the party that us lying can’t let this go to trial, or even summary judgment.

Sorry but it's too far gone. The accusations so both sides will defend themselves. Why would Blake/Ryan settle or withdraw before trying to clear her name? Same with Justin. I don't think it will go to trial but it will last longer with more communications and evidence unrevealed.

It’s Amber/Johnny for 2025

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

I'm sure that they understand that supporting a lawsuit isn't the same as liking a social media post. Her suit mentions others. They aren't going to lie under oath for her.

And yet she is awfully vague about who those others are. I called that out pages ago.

Have any of them come out in support of her? I don't think so. You'd think they would want to curry favor with Ryan and Blake and support the victim. Unless I missed something, it's pretty much her word she has all these others supporting him. People here were conflating lack of vocal support for Baldoni as indicative of guilt, and I just don't think that's accurate. Like a PP, I'd stay out of this completely.

Yes they have. Colleen Hoover, Jenny Slate, and Brandon Sklenar vocally supported her saying we didn't know the whole story.

Hoover didn’t say that. She just said she found Blake nice. Very different.

Slate's comment also seemed more in support for the "smear campaign" not the specific allegations.

“As Blake Lively’s cast mate and friend, I voice my support as she takes action against those reported to have planned and carried out an attack on her reputation,” Slate said. “Blake is a leader, loyal friend and a trusted source of emotional support for me and so many who know and love her.”

“What has been revealed about the attack on Blake is terribly dark, disturbing and wholly threatening," she added. "I commend my friend, I admire her bravery, and I stand by her side."

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

I'm sure that they understand that supporting a lawsuit isn't the same as liking a social media post. Her suit mentions others. They aren't going to lie under oath for her.

And yet she is awfully vague about who those others are. I called that out pages ago.

Have any of them come out in support of her? I don't think so. You'd think they would want to curry favor with Ryan and Blake and support the victim. Unless I missed something, it's pretty much her word she has all these others supporting him. People here were conflating lack of vocal support for Baldoni as indicative of guilt, and I just don't think that's accurate. Like a PP, I'd stay out of this completely.

Yes they have. Colleen Hoover, Jenny Slate, and Brandon Sklenar vocally supported her saying we didn't know the whole story.

Hoover didn’t say that. She just said she found Blake nice. Very different.

This is grossly minimizing their support Collen has given her throughout this situation. She not only unfollowed Justin but posted that Blake was kind, supportive, patient, since they had met. A clear jab at Justin since she's known him longer.

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Anyone rooting for plot twist, where we find out all of this is PR stunt to set up Justin Baldoni to star this summer as Chuck Bass in yet another revival of Gossip Girl! Chuck is now a 50 year old NY film director. Blake will be back too playing Serena’s granddaughter in an elite NY high school. If she can play 23 in Ends with Us, she can play 17 again too!

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Anonymous wrote:Oof. They all just need to back away and settle this. Quietly.

Can it be done quietly at this point? But agree, I’ve only read first third and I think Blake is cooked. Justin should get a big pay out

On another note, I feel really badly for both him and No More. What a wasted opportunity this movie turned out to be.

Nope! Not with this much evidence already out. Both sides will want to push through to at least the pre trial stuff to get all of their evidence out. If Blake settled quietly then people will assume she lied. I am sure Justin has similar thought

Given that he has either recorded evidence and/or notes on his side, I’m not sure about that. There are at least half a dozen people who could testify she wasn’t nude from the waist down in the birthing scene alone as she implied (I knew when she referred to “general practice” with simulated nudity rather than what she actually wore or didn’t wear, something was off)

Which is exactly why she's not going to settle until she gets all her evidence out. They can't quietly settle and hope it all passes by. It won't because she lied. Maybe things would've been differently if some of the exhibits were sealed but they aren't.

I wonder if at any point the public will see raw footage from the set that just shows some of these disputed incidents. Probably not, but I'd LOVE to see the raw footage of the scene where they are dancing, for instance, because the different accounts are insanely far apart in terms of what happened. In Lively's version, Baldoni was being disgusting and inappropriate and flirting with her in a really gross way while she remained professional. In his version, Lively was being unbelievably difficult, refusing to take any direction (from the director) and making it impossible to film the scene as written. If we could just see it, we'd know who was lying. Because one of them is.

I will say based on level of detail, Baldoni's account seems more likely to be accurate. Because his account describes far more about what was going on, conversations with producers on set, explains how the scene was shot, and includes quotes from BOTH Baldoni and Lively in terms of what was said. Whereas Lively's version is more general and just references a few things that Baldoni did or said but doesn't really say what Lively was doing. It is just implied that she was behaving professionally while he crossed lines but provides no further detail.

Unless I am misremembering, he says their mikes caught everything that happened during filming that scene.

PP here and yes, he says the whole thing is recorded including audio and many of the conversations they had before and after takes. That's why it would be nice to see it -- their accounts are so different.

But if the footage shows one of them is flat out lying, we probably never will -- they'll fight it too hard because it would look too bad. Maybe it will leak though.

I wonder if her constant requests for dailies was at her lawyer's request? Maybe they were writing up the sexual harassment complaint, and the lawyer was asking for proof of what she was saying.

Maybe. It could also be that she truly felt she was being harassed and asked for the dailies because she felt violated and wanted more control over the footage that was being shot in these scenes where she felt she was being pressured into nudity or intimacy. Baldoni presents it as her just being demanding and wanting creative control, but if there is any merit to her harassment/toxic workplace allegations, her asking for the dailies would actually make sense within that, as her trying to gain more control over a situation where she felt she was being mistreated.

The he said/she said on the harassment allegations is wild to me. Just two completely different versions that cannot be married.

Still, nobody who was actually there, that isn't part of his lawsuit, is on his side. Why would people back her if she was blatantly lying?

I would not touch this crap with a ten foot pole unless someone sent me a subpoena. Not surprised at all. I'd be willing to bet that alot of people are silently supporting him in fear of being cancelled if they speak out.

I'm sure that they understand that supporting a lawsuit isn't the same as liking a social media post. Her suit mentions others. They aren't going to lie under oath for her.

And yet she is awfully vague about who those others are. I called that out pages ago.

Have any of them come out in support of her? I don't think so. You'd think they would want to curry favor with Ryan and Blake and support the victim. Unless I missed something, it's pretty much her word she has all these others supporting him. People here were conflating lack of vocal support for Baldoni as indicative of guilt, and I just don't think that's accurate. Like a PP, I'd stay out of this completely.

Yes they have. Colleen Hoover, Jenny Slate, and Brandon Sklenar vocally supported her saying we didn't know the whole story.

Hoover didn’t say that. She just said she found Blake nice. Very different.

Slate's comment also seemed more in support for the "smear campaign" not the specific allegations.

“As Blake Lively’s cast mate and friend, I voice my support as she takes action against those reported to have planned and carried out an attack on her reputation,” Slate said. “Blake is a leader, loyal friend and a trusted source of emotional support for me and so many who know and love her.”

“What has been revealed about the attack on Blake is terribly dark, disturbing and wholly threatening," she added. "I commend my friend, I admire her bravery, and I stand by her side."

The smear campaign that's she's allegeding was in retaliation for SH. Justin's lawyer is right. You can't separate the two issues. Its fine some have publicly supported her. We have to now see what they were told or saw.