ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would advise her to not participate.

You didn’t answer the question. Would you tell your daughter to get out of her car when she is being yelled at, pawed at, and threatened with firearms by unidentified masked men?

They were actively pursing ICE, following them and intentionally trying to slow/block them, and had been for some time. They weren’t just minding their own business and were ambushed by masked men. If you are going to seek out and provoke law enforcement by blocking the road, then expect they are going to arrest you- which was what they were doing. ICE didn’t threaten them. They said get out of the car.

ICE isn’t law enforcement. ICE had ZERO authority to order her to get out of her car. ICE had ZERO authority to arrest her. ICE had ZERO authority to brandish their guns at her.

And ICE had ZERO authority or justification to shoot her in the face.

I got pulled over by the National Zoo police for not using a blinker when I changed lanes on Connecticut Ave. I got a ticket. I did not try to run over the officer. I didn’t try for YouTube fame. All good.

Were they approaching your vehicle fully masked, with pistol being drawn? Anyone putting out "f***ing b***h" vibes?

No. But the again I also didn’t block traffic with my car and call them horrible names for doing their job.

Were they with a group of fully masked tough guys in camo with a history of pulling children out of their beds and tear-gassing people standing still?

You know, your analogy example is starting to look less and less relevant, there.

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Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

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Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

I do that every day. Can you name ONE time this administration has admitted they made a mistake about anything?

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Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

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Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

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Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Like my decision to make you hit me?

Why doesn’t the brave “officer” Ross take responsibility for his decision to shoot a woman in the face because she pissed him off?

Maybe he's not brave either.

That’s already been established. He’s claiming “fear for his life” from a vehicle pulling out out of a parking spot. He’s making the defense that he’s a snowflake.

[Anonymous]

More and more, Trump is starting to look like the reincarnation of Hitler. You can't even make this sh*t up. He's even using Hitler's playbook.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

I do that every day. Can you name ONE time this administration has admitted they made a mistake about anything?

No, but I'm no Trump fan either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

So your argument is that if you’re mugged while walking down the street, it’s the natural and expected consequence of your decision to go outside that day.

I suppose you think that we should start having women always be escorted by a male family member, otherwise they’re choosing to put themselves in danger, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

DP. Yep. And when you kill someone through officer-created exigency and outside the scope of justification, there are consequences. Ask Chauvin about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

DP. Yep. And when you kill someone through officer-created exigency and outside the scope of justification, there are consequences. Ask Chauvin about that.

+1 And they’re doing it over and over again, in violation of a 9-0 decision from this Supreme Court last year (Barnes v Felix)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

DP. Yep. And when you kill someone through officer-created exigency and outside the scope of justification, there are consequences. Ask Chauvin about that.

+1 And they’re doing it over and over again, in violation of a 9-0 decision from this Supreme Court last year (Barnes v Felix)

It’s almost like people shouldn’t be interfering with federal agents doing their jobs (something legal to do) by trying to intimidate, block, or ram them with their cars (something illegal to do). No adult with a functioning IQ and sense of accountability is moved that entitled, violent, idiots voluntarily put themselves in harms way because they don’t like that laws of this country are being enforced. We don’t care if they are “mommies” who care more about sticking it to Trump more than their own children as they abandon them to play revolutionary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

DP. Yep. And when you kill someone through officer-created exigency and outside the scope of justification, there are consequences. Ask Chauvin about that.

+1 And they’re doing it over and over again, in violation of a 9-0 decision from this Supreme Court last year (Barnes v Felix)

It’s almost like people shouldn’t be interfering with federal agents doing their jobs (something legal to do) by trying to intimidate, block, or ram them with their cars (something illegal to do). No adult with a functioning IQ and sense of accountability is moved that entitled, violent, idiots voluntarily put themselves in harms way because they don’t like that laws of this country are being enforced. We don’t care if they are “mommies” who care more about sticking it to Trump more than their own children as they abandon them to play revolutionary.

For argument's sake, pretend that everything you're saying is 100% true... Then where's the red line?

- when "white" people are randomly killed more often for protesting?
- when white socialists are killed for protesting?
- when white liberals are killed for protesting?
- when white democrats are killed for protesting?
- when white Rinos are killed for protesting?
- when white MAGA are killed for protesting?

I hope you have actually have a line. Because the examples above that (i.e., POC, illegal immigrants, citizens, white lady, etc.) have already been checked off the list.

[Anonymous]

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Way to be horrible people blaming a victim who did NOTHING, repeat NOTHING, that warranted an immediate death sentence.

She reversed her car in a turn that put an ICE agent directly in her vehicle's path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

Are you American? Why don’t you understand American civics and culture?

When there’s an injustice, we protest, raise awareness, get into “good trouble”. When authorities overreach we hold them accountable. They stand trial.

Or at least they used to.

[Anonymous]

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Way to be horrible people blaming a victim who did NOTHING, repeat NOTHING, that warranted an immediate death sentence.

She reversed her car in a turn that put an ICE agent directly in her vehicle's path.

She turned her wheel away from him and he stepped back toward the car to shoot her