ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

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Why did you make me hit you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would advise her to not participate.

You didn’t answer the question. Would you tell your daughter to get out of her car when she is being yelled at, pawed at, and threatened with firearms by unidentified masked men?

They were actively pursing ICE, following them and intentionally trying to slow/block them, and had been for some time. They weren’t just minding their own business and were ambushed by masked men. If you are going to seek out and provoke law enforcement by blocking the road, then expect they are going to arrest you- which was what they were doing. ICE didn’t threaten them. They said get out of the car.

ICE isn’t law enforcement. ICE had ZERO authority to order her to get out of her car. ICE had ZERO authority to arrest her. ICE had ZERO authority to brandish their guns at her.

And ICE had ZERO authority or justification to shoot her in the face.

I got pulled over by the National Zoo police for not using a blinker when I changed lanes on Connecticut Ave. I got a ticket. I did not try to run over the officer. I didn’t try for YouTube fame. All good.

Were they approaching your vehicle fully masked, with pistol being drawn? Anyone putting out "f***ing b***h" vibes?

No. But the again I also didn’t block traffic with my car and call them horrible names for doing their job.

Awwww. The mean mommy called the big man mean names.

Also, explain how they were doing their job by trying to drag a US citizen out of her vehicle? What does that have to do with immigration enforcement?

Drivers can choose to follow the law and drive to their destination. That was not her intent or that of her wife.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would advise her to not participate.

You didn’t answer the question. Would you tell your daughter to get out of her car when she is being yelled at, pawed at, and threatened with firearms by unidentified masked men?

They were actively pursing ICE, following them and intentionally trying to slow/block them, and had been for some time. They weren’t just minding their own business and were ambushed by masked men. If you are going to seek out and provoke law enforcement by blocking the road, then expect they are going to arrest you- which was what they were doing. ICE didn’t threaten them. They said get out of the car.

ICE isn’t law enforcement. ICE had ZERO authority to order her to get out of her car. ICE had ZERO authority to arrest her. ICE had ZERO authority to brandish their guns at her.

And ICE had ZERO authority or justification to shoot her in the face.

I got pulled over by the National Zoo police for not using a blinker when I changed lanes on Connecticut Ave. I got a ticket. I did not try to run over the officer. I didn’t try for YouTube fame. All good.

Were they approaching your vehicle fully masked, with pistol being drawn? Anyone putting out "f***ing b***h" vibes?

No. But the again I also didn’t block traffic with my car and call them horrible names for doing their job.

Awwww. The mean mommy called the big man mean names.

Also, explain how they were doing their job by trying to drag a US citizen out of her vehicle? What does that have to do with immigration enforcement?

Drivers can choose to follow the law and drive to their destination. That was not her intent or that of her wife.

Non sequitur. (That basically means that your answer has nothing to do with the question, dear.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would advise her to not participate.

You didn’t answer the question. Would you tell your daughter to get out of her car when she is being yelled at, pawed at, and threatened with firearms by unidentified masked men?

They were actively pursing ICE, following them and intentionally trying to slow/block them, and had been for some time. They weren’t just minding their own business and were ambushed by masked men. If you are going to seek out and provoke law enforcement by blocking the road, then expect they are going to arrest you- which was what they were doing. ICE didn’t threaten them. They said get out of the car.

ICE isn’t law enforcement. ICE had ZERO authority to order her to get out of her car. ICE had ZERO authority to arrest her. ICE had ZERO authority to brandish their guns at her.

And ICE had ZERO authority or justification to shoot her in the face.

I got pulled over by the National Zoo police for not using a blinker when I changed lanes on Connecticut Ave. I got a ticket. I did not try to run over the officer. I didn’t try for YouTube fame. All good.

Were they approaching your vehicle fully masked, with pistol being drawn? Anyone putting out "f***ing b***h" vibes?

No. But the again I also didn’t block traffic with my car and call them horrible names for doing their job.

And in the USA, the penalty for calling ICE agents "horrible names" is death?

In your version of the world, why have a justice system at all? Just shoot anyone who annoys you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

[Anonymous]

The victim should never have left her wife behind and driven away.

The agent should never have discharged his firearm.

In both state and federal court the agent will not be convicted.

I hope people are prepared for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Like my decision to make you hit me?

Why doesn’t the brave “officer” Ross take responsibility for his decision to shoot a woman in the face because she pissed him off?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would advise her to not participate.

You didn’t answer the question. Would you tell your daughter to get out of her car when she is being yelled at, pawed at, and threatened with firearms by unidentified masked men?

They were actively pursing ICE, following them and intentionally trying to slow/block them, and had been for some time. They weren’t just minding their own business and were ambushed by masked men. If you are going to seek out and provoke law enforcement by blocking the road, then expect they are going to arrest you- which was what they were doing. ICE didn’t threaten them. They said get out of the car.

The shooter switched his phone to his left hand so he could pull out his gun with his right hand before the car was even moving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The victim should never have left her wife behind and driven away.

The agent should never have discharged his firearm.

In both state and federal court the agent will not be convicted.

I hope people are prepared for that.

Nor does he have a longterm career path at the agency he’s spent the last decade at. The clock is rapidly ticking on the current administration. His life has changed forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Way to be horrible people blaming a victim who did NOTHING, repeat NOTHING, that warranted an immediate death sentence.

WTF is wrong with you ghouls?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Like my decision to make you hit me?

Why doesn’t the brave “officer” Ross take responsibility for his decision to shoot a woman in the face because she pissed him off?

Maybe he's not brave either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

The woman killed did nothing that required her to immediately die. Your argument here is ABSURD.