UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This article says the “weapon was consistent” with the one used, but it says he was carrying a ghost gun. Can you use any billet with a ghost gin? There’s no DNA. And his backpack was found Friday by the carousel, but he left days earlier. Also, the 5 minutes arrival.

I think the prosecuters are going to have their work cut out for them. We’ll see if the jury is willing to convict on a fake ID and manifesto. Unless he acts as his own lawyer, then it will be easy.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/privately-made-firearms

A ghost gun is just a gun that isn't manufactured by a major gun manufacturer. They often don't have serial numbers. Like most other guns, they are designed to fire a specific caliber of ammunition. You don't need a specific brand or variety.

I don't know why you think this is a bad case. Presumably the gun he had on him can be linked ballistically to the bullets/casings recovered from the scene.

But I’m asking how that’s possible? Are you saying that they would have known it was a ghost gun? A lot of ballistic experts on DCUM and not one person mentioned it.

I think it *might* be a bad case because I served on a jury with a complicated timeline. The above needs to be answered/proved.

A ghost gun looks just like a regular gun. You don't necessarily know until you handle it and disassemble it.

By ballistics evidence, I mean a microscopic comparison of the casings/bullets recovered from the scene/victim and bullets/casings test fired from the weapon recovered from the suspect's bag.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Poor little rich boy (who appears to have issue been salty about a lot more than insurance companies.) gee, maybe we shouldn’t valorize premeditated murder?

Why would him being rich change anyone’s opinion about the CEO and United Healthcare’s business practices?

I don’t know maybe it’s when you’ve been living large off of corporatized assisted living facilities your whole life you’d at least look closer to home (or maybe relinquish your riches) before murdering a stranger.

In many tellings of Robin Hood he was a nobleman. I don’t recall him attacking his family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

There were 2 jurors on a trial I served on who said nothing would change their minds to convict, unless they’d been standing there. A lot of people who say what pp above you did haven’t ever served on a jury, or it was a cut and dry case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

+1, guy will never be convicted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

Are you willing to commit perjury to get on the jury in the first place? Because it will require that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that The Back surgery lead to opioid abuse, which then led to use of psychedelics and harder stuff.

Psychedelics are really not in the line of, say, oral opioids to shooting up. They're a very different thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His family didn’t recognize him and turn him in?! WTAF!

How do you know that they didn’t? He was estranged from his family. That doesn’t mean they didn’t contact police.

LE admitted they didn’t know who it was. It’s all down to the McDonald’s Boomer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article says the “weapon was consistent” with the one used, but it says he was carrying a ghost gun. Can you use any billet with a ghost gin? There’s no DNA. And his backpack was found Friday by the carousel, but he left days earlier. Also, the 5 minutes arrival.

I think the prosecuters are going to have their work cut out for them. We’ll see if the jury is willing to convict on a fake ID and manifesto. Unless he acts as his own lawyer, then it will be easy.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/privately-made-firearms

A ghost gun is just a gun that isn't manufactured by a major gun manufacturer. They often don't have serial numbers. Like most other guns, they are designed to fire a specific caliber of ammunition. You don't need a specific brand or variety.

I don't know why you think this is a bad case. Presumably the gun he had on him can be linked ballistically to the bullets/casings recovered from the scene.

But I’m asking how that’s possible? Are you saying that they would have known it was a ghost gun? A lot of ballistic experts on DCUM and not one person mentioned it.

I think it *might* be a bad case because I served on a jury with a complicated timeline. The above needs to be answered/proved.

A ghost gun looks just like a regular gun. You don't necessarily know until you handle it and disassemble it.

By ballistics evidence, I mean a microscopic comparison of the casings/bullets recovered from the scene/victim and bullets/casings test fired from the weapon recovered from the suspect's bag.

Got it, thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor little rich boy (who appears to have issue been salty about a lot more than insurance companies.) gee, maybe we shouldn’t valorize premeditated murder?

Why would him being rich change anyone’s opinion about the CEO and United Healthcare’s business practices?

NP here. Well learning that his parents made their fortune from assisted living facilities, it’s like pick your poison. Do I screw over people via health insurance or do I screw over elderly and disabled people who have dementia, Alzheimer’s, etc and milk their families dry.

Yeah, neither family has clean hands here. Not saying it justifies murder but the hypocrisy is stunning. He’s no Robin Hood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

Are you willing to commit perjury to get on the jury in the first place? Because it will require that.

Oy vey, a juror lying to get seated, that never happens!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Americans can sign up for Obamacare under the Affordable Health Care act within like 3 minutes on line.

Shhhh!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article says the “weapon was consistent” with the one used, but it says he was carrying a ghost gun. Can you use any billet with a ghost gin? There’s no DNA. And his backpack was found Friday by the carousel, but he left days earlier. Also, the 5 minutes arrival.

I think the prosecuters are going to have their work cut out for them. We’ll see if the jury is willing to convict on a fake ID and manifesto. Unless he acts as his own lawyer, then it will be easy.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/privately-made-firearms

A ghost gun is just a gun that isn't manufactured by a major gun manufacturer. They often don't have serial numbers. Like most other guns, they are designed to fire a specific caliber of ammunition. You don't need a specific brand or variety.

I don't know why you think this is a bad case. Presumably the gun he had on him can be linked ballistically to the bullets/casings recovered from the scene.

https://people.com/luigi-mangione-suspect-fatal-shooting-brian-thompson-ghost-gun-8758386
possibly 3D printed ghost gun

That’s impossible!!!

All the firearm experts here at DCUM kept telling us it was a B&T Station Six/9, and modernized version of the WWII British Welrod pistol. A rare and expensive gun favored by professional hitmen everywhere!



And I was like “uh, no. It looks like a midsize 9mm semiauto with a feed malfunction because it’s got a ‘can without a booster”, and DCUM was like “STFU, you don’t know what the cops and fbi know, gun nutter”.



Gawd, this place NEVER disappoints

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back injury happened when he was surfing in Hawaii.

Surgery didn’t go great.

Moved to Japan.

His contact with family stopped about a year ago. Recently the family reached out to his friends from high school asking if they had info on him.

So he’s been pretty aloof for awhile. This checks out with his IG tagged photos as there were a lot of posts from family through 2023, none recently.

How does a young man get so injured while surfing? Blasted by a nasty wave or crashing into rocks?

Surfing in Hawaii is really different than the east coast. Waves can travel thousands of miles before breaking. Then add to that Hawaii has so many reef breaks. You can surf and you look down and the reef is so shallow under you that you can get pounded into the reef and snap your neck or hit your head.

So many tourists in Hawaii get paralyzed or have neck/back injuries surfing, boogie boarding and body boarding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

Are you willing to commit perjury to get on the jury in the first place? Because it will require that.

Sure. Prove I perjured myself. You cannot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

There really isn't. Jury nullification is rare. It's not going in a murder case.

A mistrial wouldn't really benefit him. There
seems to be solid evidence which doesn't rely on eyewitnesses. He'd continue to be remanded for a second trial and would almost certainly get convicted then.