Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Option 3 discussions can go here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1278829.page

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Anonymous wrote:was Farmland specifically redlined, while other parts of Rockville were not?

I don’t think we have houses here that are that old. Plus lots of apartments.

regardless of whether the community was actually redlined to keep black people from owning homes there, the property values should go down because of historical racism everywhere.

Says who? Last I checked Gov Moore vetoed reparations.

BOE and Taylor. That's why they have Option 3.

That is clearly not their job.

their job is to solve systemic racism and fight capitalism.

I’m assuming you’re being sarcastic.

the contention of many on this thread is that their role is to better integrate schools (fight racism), with a side benefit of wealth transfer from richer to poorer areas (fight capitalism). Why else would they promulgate Option 3?

There is a new thread just for you:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1278829.page

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, now people are arguing that you should be fine with BOTH losing your job and your home value tanking. And if you don't it's all your fault.

What the hell is wrong with people.

I don't think anyone is saying this. I think people should be prepared for these things. Both happen frequently to many families at the same time. Widespread job losses are often the reason why home values go down. If you are worried about the impact of a potential downturn in property values on your personal finances, I suggest you speak with a financial advisor. It may be a good idea for you to build up an emergency fund/change the distribution of your portfolio to include less risky and more liquid assets. What I do not think is helpful is advocating for segregation in our schools to protect your home value.

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Anonymous wrote:I can see both sides of the conversation. Yes, we absolutely need more diversity in our schools—there’s no doubt about that. However, as someone who has sent my son to high-FARMS (Free and Reduced Meals) schools in the past, I have to be honest about what I experienced. Whether those students looked like me or not, there was often a noticeable disregard for others. Fights, verbal altercations, and stealing were common. This was in the 2000s, mind you.

Eventually, I pulled him out and enrolled him in private school. Later, I bought a home in Olney, and my second child attended public schools there and did just fine.

I saw a comment recently suggesting that students on FARMS should be allowed to attend W schools—sort of like a magnet model. I actually think that’s a smart solution. It would increase diversity without bringing the very issues that drove people to move to places like Bethesda, Chevy Chase, or certain areas of Rockville in the first place.

Is it your assertion that all the kids from low-income families had a disregard for others? Or that a higher percentage of them do?

I’m not saying all kids from low-income families behave that way—but there are definitely risk factors we shouldn’t ignore or deny. Poverty brings stress, instability, and sometimes exposure to environments where conflict is normalized. That doesn’t mean every child will act out, but it does mean that schools with higher concentrations of those challenges often deal with more behavioral issues.

That said, yes—FARMS rates do need to be higher in our more affluent schools. That’s exactly why I mentioned that comment about creating a magnet-style program to bring FARMS students into W schools. It’s a way to increase diversity meaningfully, without replicating the same issues that led families—mine included—to seek out places like Olney, Bethesda, or Chevy Chase in the first place. We can aim for inclusion and support while also being realistic about what works.

Neglect, child abuse, violence and lack of supervision are also common in wealthy families, it’s just hidden better. The dcc kids don’t want to be bussed to your school. You don’t want inclusion and diversity, let’s be real.

My kid would, he hates his school, and I can’t afford private.

File for cosa.

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, now people are arguing that you should be fine with BOTH losing your job and your home value tanking. And if you don't it's all your fault.

What the hell is wrong with people.

I don't think anyone is saying this. I think people should be prepared for these things. Both happen frequently to many families at the same time. Widespread job losses are often the reason why home values go down. If you are worried about the impact of a potential downturn in property values on your personal finances, I suggest you speak with a financial advisor. It may be a good idea for you to build up an emergency fund/change the distribution of your portfolio to include less risky and more liquid assets. What I do not think is helpful is advocating for segregation in our schools to protect your home value.

I see this word gets thrown casually. I am genuunly ionterested where is segregation where some one is not allowed to buy and attend near by schools?

If by segregation, you mean why poor kids are not attending some rich schools far away then it's a poor arguement to make for segregation.

People will buy where they can afford and go to school close to their house. That's how it has worked due to being most efficient use of tax payers money. That's not segregation.

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, now people are arguing that you should be fine with BOTH losing your job and your home value tanking. And if you don't it's all your fault.

What the hell is wrong with people.

I don't think anyone is saying this. I think people should be prepared for these things. Both happen frequently to many families at the same time. Widespread job losses are often the reason why home values go down. If you are worried about the impact of a potential downturn in property values on your personal finances, I suggest you speak with a financial advisor. It may be a good idea for you to build up an emergency fund/change the distribution of your portfolio to include less risky and more liquid assets. What I do not think is helpful is advocating for segregation in our schools to protect your home value.

I see this word gets thrown casually. I am genuunly ionterested where is segregation where some one is not allowed to buy and attend near by schools?

If by segregation, you mean why poor kids are not attending some rich schools far away then it's a poor arguement to make for segregation.

People will buy where they can afford and go to school close to their house. That's how it has worked due to being most efficient use of tax payers money. That's not segregation.

De facto segregation refers to separation that exists in practice, even though it's not legally enforced. It's the result of social, economic, or other factors, rather than explicit laws or policies. Examples include racial segregation in housing, education, and other public spaces due to factors like neighborhood demographics, housing patterns, or personal choices. In contrast, de jure segregation is segregation enforced by law.

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By the way, MCPS specifically drawing boundaries to keep certain schools with low poverty rates in order to protect the property values in certain neighborhoods is absolutely segregation. It's redlining by another name.

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Anonymous wrote:Go back to Strategic plan. A version of option 3 is what is going to happen. They want all students to reach certain goals and there was a comment about the “W” schools and how all schoola should be considered good and that can only happen with desegregation.

Well Option 3 still doesn't address Whitman segregation.

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, now people are arguing that you should be fine with BOTH losing your job and your home value tanking. And if you don't it's all your fault.

What the hell is wrong with people.

I don't think anyone is saying this. I think people should be prepared for these things. Both happen frequently to many families at the same time. Widespread job losses are often the reason why home values go down. If you are worried about the impact of a potential downturn in property values on your personal finances, I suggest you speak with a financial advisor. It may be a good idea for you to build up an emergency fund/change the distribution of your portfolio to include less risky and more liquid assets. What I do not think is helpful is advocating for segregation in our schools to protect your home value.

Job loss is not why overinflated home values go down. It hits a level most cannot afford. Most jobs are not feds or contractors. And, if you took a too high mortgage thinking your job was secure, did not save, that’s on you.

My home value means nothing but property taxes as I have no intention of moving.

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If BOE and Taylor are not cognizant of the current economic outlook for the county that suggests some serious incompetence.

I know people have been contacting their county board reps about this already.

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To add: the board at least understands that raising taxes right now to fund the schools’ full budget was not the right move, citing job outlook.

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Lets stick to the topic please!

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Economic outlook is 100% on topic.

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Anonymous wrote:Economic outlook is 100% on topic.

Why, people overpaid for their homes and expect the market to continue to rise, which may or may not happen. The w community wanted the new school. What did they think would happen.

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Anonymous wrote:If BOE and Taylor are not cognizant of the current economic outlook for the county that suggests some serious incompetence.

I know people have been contacting their county board reps about this already.

Not their problem.