Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:Geez. Her plan was ultimately to go to med school (high MCAT scores) but she wanted to serve first. Respect. I’m sorry for everyone involved in this, what a tragedy.


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Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?


The WH social aide gig is a prestigious thing. The ones I know went on to become a US Senator and a CEO.

Funny how the posters with pitchforks seem quiet now that she’s been named.


The PR angle of listing her prizes and awards and accolades was smart. They made the story instead of letting Trump make the story.




Interesting. Why does she need crisis PR? Do the two male victims in the helicopter have crisis PR? Why were their names everywhere and only hers was shielded for 3 days?


Easy: she is female, they are male, and the POTUS already attacked her before her identity was revealed.

You obviously are male, since that wasn't readily apparent to you.

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Latest NTSB briefing said data from CRJ showed altitude of 325 ft (+/- 25 ft) at impact. They don't have data from BH yet but tower data is preliminarily showing BH altitude at 200 ft. But tower data still needs to be cleaned up and could be showing a few seconds delay. My takeaway is that the CRJ data is most accurate and shows impact at 300-350 ft and tower data is suggesting BH was at 200 ft seconds before impact but obviously climbed to 300-350 at time of impact.
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Anonymous wrote:Latest NTSB briefing said data from CRJ showed altitude of 325 ft (+/- 25 ft) at impact. They don't have data from BH yet but tower data is preliminarily showing BH altitude at 200 ft. But tower data still needs to be cleaned up and could be showing a few seconds delay. My takeaway is that the CRJ data is most accurate and shows impact at 300-350 ft and tower data is suggesting BH was at 200 ft seconds before impact but obviously climbed to 300-350 at time of impact.


Briefing also mentioned that CRJ crew had a verbal reaction a second before impact and the plane started to pitch up, presumably to try to maneuver away. So the pilots saw it coming at the last second.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else’s mind still blown that DC airspace is used for training? I guess I thought all those military helicopters were actually doing legitimate military work, not training. I get that training is a necessity but still.


Tell me you have no experience with the military without telling me…

This thread really illuminates how many people in our society do not understand basic information about the military because they have never served. Many people today have not only never served, they have no family or friends who have ever served. Thus, they have no context for understanding events that involve the military.



I understand that 70 people are dead because the military inexplicably decided to do training in a civilian area. Being that I am a civilian over whose neighborhood they train, I think I have every right to ask questions.

I have no military experience, but I am an American and know that a few of our most critical military targets are in DC. I'm quite happy to know that the AF and Army regularly run training exercises in the airspace above DC.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else’s mind still blown that DC airspace is used for training? I guess I thought all those military helicopters were actually doing legitimate military work, not training. I get that training is a necessity but still.


Tell me you have no experience with the military without telling me…

This thread really illuminates how many people in our society do not understand basic information about the military because they have never served. Many people today have not only never served, they have no family or friends who have ever served. Thus, they have no context for understanding events that involve the military.



I understand that 70 people are dead because the military inexplicably decided to do training in a civilian area. Being that I am a civilian over whose neighborhood they train, I think I have every right to ask questions.

I have no military experience, but I am an American and know that a few of our most critical military targets are in DC. I'm quite happy to know that the AF and Army regularly run training exercises in the airspace above DC.


They have to for these reasons. There is just no way around it. Perhaps they could down on frivolous transport though
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Anonymous wrote:Latest NTSB briefing said data from CRJ showed altitude of 325 ft (+/- 25 ft) at impact. They don't have data from BH yet but tower data is preliminarily showing BH altitude at 200 ft. But tower data still needs to be cleaned up and could be showing a few seconds delay. My takeaway is that the CRJ data is most accurate and shows impact at 300-350 ft and tower data is suggesting BH was at 200 ft seconds before impact but obviously climbed to 300-350 at time of impact.


Briefing also mentioned that CRJ crew had a verbal reaction a second before impact and the plane started to pitch up, presumably to try to maneuver away. So the pilots saw it coming at the last second.


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I tried to find where Trump blamed DEI for the crash in terms of the pilots. I saw where he says DEI in the FAA caused it, but can anyone point me to what he said about the pilots?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else’s mind still blown that DC airspace is used for training? I guess I thought all those military helicopters were actually doing legitimate military work, not training. I get that training is a necessity but still.


Tell me you have no experience with the military without telling me…

This thread really illuminates how many people in our society do not understand basic information about the military because they have never served. Many people today have not only never served, they have no family or friends who have ever served. Thus, they have no context for understanding events that involve the military.



If I had a loved one on that airplane, I wouldn't give a da..mn about context.


But, you don’t.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else’s mind still blown that DC airspace is used for training? I guess I thought all those military helicopters were actually doing legitimate military work, not training. I get that training is a necessity but still.


Tell me you have no experience with the military without telling me…

This thread really illuminates how many people in our society do not understand basic information about the military because they have never served. Many people today have not only never served, they have no family or friends who have ever served. Thus, they have no context for understanding events that involve the military.



If I had a loved one on that airplane, I wouldn't give a da..mn about context.


But, you don’t.

Thankfully that's true, but I have much compassion for those who died, especially the children. Such a tragic loss of life.
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Don’t understand the ntsb altitude data. How did the planes crash if they were at different altitudes?
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Anonymous wrote:I tried to find where Trump blamed DEI for the crash in terms of the pilots. I saw where he says DEI in the FAA caused it, but can anyone point me to what he said about the pilots?


He quite explicitly noted that in his opinion this was the helicopter pilot’s error, and then at the same time complained about DEI hiring at the FAA. The problem is - if you have a brain, which may be stretch I realize - if he believes that the helo pilots were at fault as he stated, then it doesn’t f—king matter who the FAA is hiring. They didn’t cause this (according to his own uninformed opinion). But his incredibly stupid supporters - like you - are too dense to notice his sleight of hand. It’s the oldest trick in the book: the art of distraction. And his dunderheaded followers fall for it every time. MAGA folks are very reliable idiots.
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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.



Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?


The WH social aide gig is a prestigious thing. The ones I know went on to become a US Senator and a CEO.

Funny how the posters with pitchforks seem quiet now that she’s been named.


The PR angle of listing her prizes and awards and accolades was smart. They made the story instead of letting Trump make the story.




Interesting. Why does she need crisis PR? Do the two male victims in the helicopter have crisis PR? Why were their names everywhere and only hers was shielded for 3 days?


Easy: she is female, they are male, and the POTUS already attacked her before her identity was revealed.

You obviously are male, since that wasn't readily apparent to you.


exactly. what a dumb question.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else’s mind still blown that DC airspace is used for training? I guess I thought all those military helicopters were actually doing legitimate military work, not training. I get that training is a necessity but still.


Tell me you have no experience with the military without telling me…

This thread really illuminates how many people in our society do not understand basic information about the military because they have never served. Many people today have not only never served, they have no family or friends who have ever served. Thus, they have no context for understanding events that involve the military.



I understand that 70 people are dead because the military inexplicably decided to do training in a civilian area. Being that I am a civilian over whose neighborhood they train, I think I have every right to ask questions.

I have no military experience, but I am an American and know that a few of our most critical military targets are in DC. I'm quite happy to know that the AF and Army regularly run training exercises in the airspace above DC.


They run them to learn how to evacuate high govt officials- not protect you
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Anonymous wrote:She was the DEI that was the focus immediately afterwards?

The Administration was trying to rile people up into assuming the pilot was an incompetent black woman. I don’t know how many posts I read on here and X stating the pilot was a black woman.


No. Most just assumed a woman. And they assumed right. Trump was obviously told who was senior command on that helicopter and then popped off right after on live TV.


Yes, but he popped off about ATCs, not about pilots. He suggested strongly that the cause of the crash was an ATC who was a DEI hire.


Who got the FAA director to resign?

Elon Musk.

Who terrorized federal workers for a week before this?

Elon Musk

Who fired the FAA safety advisory board?

Elon Musk/Trump





None of this has anything to do with the crash. And firing members of commissions and advisory boards is standard for administrations.


Who made the decision to continue helicopter training when there was a near miss just 24 hours before the fatal crash?


Yep

A history of near misses
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