Undergraduate:
Harvard Stanford MIT Yale Princeton Columbia Penn Chicago Northwestern Duke Dartmouth Brown Cornell JHU Berkeley Overall: Harvard Stanford MIT Columbia Yale Princeton Penn Chicago Berkeley Northwestern Duke |
Global Overall: Boston U UPenn Loyola Marymount Lafayette Standford Harvard Indiana Texas A&M Otherwise known as: BULLSHIT |
Looks about right. Although, Berkeley and Chicago should be switched. |
Even better a rank by the 40 and older crowd: Harvard Yale Princeton Stanford MIT Columbia Penn Caltech Duke Chicago Dartmouth Brown Northwestern Cornell Johns Hopkins Berkeley |
Certainly Michigan, and perhaps UCLA, are at least equal to NU and Duke globally. |
Not sure how they collected the data but it shows overwhelming dual admits choose NU/Duke over UCLA/Michigan, not even close. https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Duke+University&with=University+of+California%2C+Los+Angeles If you have doubt about the data, you may try comparing a few other schools to see how the data match your thinking of those school rankings. |
Parchment is unreliable but your point is correct. I am Asian (as in I was born and raised in Asia) and am very familiar with the international school scene in East Asia and the Middle East. Both Northwestern and Duke are viewed as stronger and more prestigious schools than Michigan and UCLA (though those two schools are also highly sought after. |
Stanford is probably in a similar tier with Yale and Princeton, but these days perception is that Harvard and Stanford are best of best. There is a drop between HYPSM and Columbia |
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So what exactly is this gap between HYPSM and Columbia? |
Endowment and caliber of students |
Here is the appropriate tier: HYPSM Columbia Chicago Caltech Penn Northwestern Duke Dartmouth Brown Cornell Johns Hopkins Berkeley |
When you are comparing an public with a private, you always have the cost factor. If the applicant is in-state for the public, they are getting a discount/subsidy. If they are OOS they don't get that and the value calculation is quite different. What isn't clear is what percentage of the overlaps are in-state vs. OOS, and that is significant in how you interpret the data. In general, I don't think publics, even the better ones, can provide quite the same experience as top privates, so I think paying OOS cost for that is often less attractive. Duke vs a selection of public universities on Parchment looks like this: 35% Berkeley to 65% Duke 31% UCLA to 69% Duke 28% GT to 72% Duke 28% William and Mary to 72% Duke 23% Michigan to 77% Duke 15% UNC to 85% Duke 15% UVA to 85% Duke |
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Endowment yes, caliber of students I highly doubt |