Rest In Peace Meritocracy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeez, I guess that TikTok girl is going to VT.

Or UNC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, racism against white people is the real problem in America.

The point has sailed right over your head. No one has claimed your strawman. What we ARE saying is that you can’t possibly claim “racism” against Asian applicants when just as many - if not more - white students with excellent stats are being rejected. Deal with it and quit playing the victim.

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Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.

Umd is a great education but that is ridiculous to say that this student could not have had many more acceptances if his application list had been more realistic.

If he is going for CS or Engineering...he made the right choice to go in-state (I am guessing here that he is an MD student) because how highly ranked UMD is for these two majors. Try for Ivies and know that it is a crapshoot and then also apply in-state for MD and get a free education. Well done, Charlie!

And no point in doing majors that does not get you a high paying job. He maximized his education dollars. Good for him. And while this was put in tiktok by him, I can bet that he was very aware that while he was an Ivy-level kid who was going to UMD, he was always going to be successful. Regardless of if Ivy rejected him because of racism, this kid is going to UMD with the best credentials. That is a mark of the candidate. I say this is Harvard's loss.

I also think that it is about time that the Asian-Americans realize the kinds of racism they are facing in USA. This is a valuable lesson for Charlie and my kid. Watch, experience and learn the reality of this country and society.

Quit with the whining already. All those Ivies are private schools. You are not owed a place there.

Oh shut up and go and parent your worthless kids!

DP. It's fascinating to see how Asians view other Americans based on the comments on this board. The recurring one about white girls being sluts is especially disturbing. I think there is a lot of anti Asian bigotry that needs to stop, but the bigotry needs to stop in the other direction also.

Totally agree. Some of these ugly comments about white kids are really unbelievable. Seems there are some hateful Asians taking advantage of an anonymous forum.

Very weird to randomly assume an anonymous poster of being Asian so you can direct your vile racist bile against Asian Americans. Also nice to see white Americans keeping their tradition of discrimination based on race alive.

The vile poster(s) in question SAID they were Asian, you twit. Amazing how you’re going to milk that “racism” card for all it’s worth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 2020, there were 22,000 students who scored above a 1550 on the SAT. That is the top 1%. There were 21,000 students who scored a 35 or 36 on the ACT.

This student is certainly exceptional at test taking (and maybe he has an exceptional transcript to match) but he is competing against the other 22k kids who got the exact same scores.

Harvard offered admission to exactly 2,056 students this year.

Princeton admitted 1,890.

Yale admitted 2,272.

See how this works? 22,000 students with that near perfect SAT score. We can't add the perfect SAT kids with the perfect ACT kids, because there is certainly overlap with some students taking both and getting a top score on both, so let's just go with the SAT number only, since Charlie from TikTok listed SAT scores.

If we are going purely on scores, there are 20k students who will not be admitted because of the number of slots. I think the problem is that many of these students (and their parents) are unable to understand quite how many students are just as competitive as their child.

Exactly. “But RACISM!!”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, racism against white people is the real problem in America.

The point has sailed right over your head. No one has claimed your strawman. What we ARE saying is that you can’t possibly claim “racism” against Asian applicants when just as many - if not more - white students with excellent stats are being rejected. Deal with it and quit playing the victim.

+1

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Every year, 37,000 seniors in the top 1% graduate from HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In 2020, there were 22,000 students who scored above a 1550 on the SAT. That is the top 1%. There were 21,000 students who scored a 35 or 36 on the ACT.

This student is certainly exceptional at test taking (and maybe he has an exceptional transcript to match) but he is competing against the other 22k kids who got the exact same scores.

Harvard offered admission to exactly 2,056 students this year.

Princeton admitted 1,890.

Yale admitted 2,272.

See how this works? 22,000 students with that near perfect SAT score. We can't add the perfect SAT kids with the perfect ACT kids, because there is certainly overlap with some students taking both and getting a top score on both, so let's just go with the SAT number only, since Charlie from TikTok listed SAT scores.

If we are going purely on scores, there are 20k students who will not be admitted because of the number of slots. I think the problem is that many of these students (and their parents) are unable to understand quite how many students are just as competitive as their child.

All of this. And it’s funny how some posters think they know the definition of meritocracy. I work for a multinational highly sought after company and we’ve done the analysis that the people over the long term aren’t those with the highest GPA or test scores. It’s those with high scores but also indications that they have grit and work hard. The 3.5 college GPA + a job trumps a 4.0 GPA any day.

Or you know, 4.0 GPA + a job.

The reason "multinational" companies (funny how you post that as if its a prestigious thing) have many non-high GPA/test score graduates long-timers is because these companies are not particularly prestigious nor pay well.

The top students tend to go to high paying industries (banking, tech) and have enough to retire by the time they are 30-40, or go on to work for smaller companies with more scope rather than office politics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In 2020, there were 22,000 students who scored above a 1550 on the SAT. That is the top 1%. There were 21,000 students who scored a 35 or 36 on the ACT.

This student is certainly exceptional at test taking (and maybe he has an exceptional transcript to match) but he is competing against the other 22k kids who got the exact same scores.

Harvard offered admission to exactly 2,056 students this year.

Princeton admitted 1,890.

Yale admitted 2,272.

See how this works? 22,000 students with that near perfect SAT score. We can't add the perfect SAT kids with the perfect ACT kids, because there is certainly overlap with some students taking both and getting a top score on both, so let's just go with the SAT number only, since Charlie from TikTok listed SAT scores.

If we are going purely on scores, there are 20k students who will not be admitted because of the number of slots. I think the problem is that many of these students (and their parents) are unable to understand quite how many students are just as competitive as their child.

Exactly. “But RACISM!!”

Yale, Harvard, etc. have been statistically proven to discriminate against Asians. This is a fact, not an opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:maybe because he can’t spell Varsity?

...or Dartmouth

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeaB1Nm9/

Truly sad what this country has become.

He might smart but unless he has the social skills or an athlete, he will be just another "nerd" among the thousands of Asians. Nothing special about him.

You don't know him, and yet you assume he has no social skills just because of the race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2020, there were 22,000 students who scored above a 1550 on the SAT. That is the top 1%. There were 21,000 students who scored a 35 or 36 on the ACT.

This student is certainly exceptional at test taking (and maybe he has an exceptional transcript to match) but he is competing against the other 22k kids who got the exact same scores.

Harvard offered admission to exactly 2,056 students this year.

Princeton admitted 1,890.

Yale admitted 2,272.

See how this works? 22,000 students with that near perfect SAT score. We can't add the perfect SAT kids with the perfect ACT kids, because there is certainly overlap with some students taking both and getting a top score on both, so let's just go with the SAT number only, since Charlie from TikTok listed SAT scores.

If we are going purely on scores, there are 20k students who will not be admitted because of the number of slots. I think the problem is that many of these students (and their parents) are unable to understand quite how many students are just as competitive as their child.

Exactly. “But RACISM!!”

Except all these numbers are wrong. Pulled from someone's a*s hole.

[Anonymous]

Lesson learned.

Row crew.

Pick up a saber.

Prance around with a lacrosse stick.

Ivy League admissions need the biggest hook of all -- Olympic sport athletics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeaB1Nm9/

Truly sad what this country has become.

He might smart but unless he has the social skills or an athlete, he will be just another "nerd" among the thousands of Asians. Nothing special about him.

You don't know him, and yet you assume he has no social skills just because of the race.

I live in McLean and this boy is just another typical Asian kid among many Asians with high academic stats, music and some HS varsity sports. Most of these Asians kids, not all, lack the social skills to be successful beyond the academic. Now if this boy can play the violin like Joshua Bell, then he is special but he can't.

This boy is just like my own Asian child with the same stat in academic, nothing special about it.

No

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In 2020, there were 22,000 students who scored above a 1550 on the SAT. That is the top 1%. There were 21,000 students who scored a 35 or 36 on the ACT.

This student is certainly exceptional at test taking (and maybe he has an exceptional transcript to match) but he is competing against the other 22k kids who got the exact same scores.

Harvard offered admission to exactly 2,056 students this year.

Princeton admitted 1,890.

Yale admitted 2,272.

See how this works? 22,000 students with that near perfect SAT score. We can't add the perfect SAT kids with the perfect ACT kids, because there is certainly overlap with some students taking both and getting a top score on both, so let's just go with the SAT number only, since Charlie from TikTok listed SAT scores.

If we are going purely on scores, there are 20k students who will not be admitted because of the number of slots. I think the problem is that many of these students (and their parents) are unable to understand quite how many students are just as competitive as their child.

Exactly. “But RACISM!!”

Except all these numbers are wrong. Pulled from someone's a*s hole.

NP: Which numbers are wrong? According to Prep Scholar, assuming it is a reputable source, the SAT/ACT numbers are correct.
https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown#:~:text=Percentage%20of%20All%20Test%20Takers&text=Unsurprisingly%2C%20a%20full%2036%20is,0.961%25%20of%20test%20takers%20earned.


Do you have another source with different numbers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, racism against white people is the real problem in America.

The point has sailed right over your head. No one has claimed your strawman. What we ARE saying is that you can’t possibly claim “racism” against Asian applicants when just as many - if not more - white students with excellent stats are being rejected. Deal with it and quit playing the victim.

Except white students with mediocre stats are being accepted because of their legacy or athletic status