Rest In Peace Meritocracy

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This has been the case for several years now. My son with similar stats was also rejected from these schools!


Yep. DC has similar stats and disadvantages (asian male) as the kid in the video. We adviced against applying to the Ivies. He did apply to a couple and rejected. Rejected at top state schools as well. If you are going to chime in with "what about ECs?" save your breath. Not going to get into the details but he had plenty to account for leadership, well roundedness and pointiness..


You all sound a little nuts. DD is friends with super high stats white females that got the same rejection letters. There is not a school on this rejection list that has an acceptance rate over fifteen percent. Maybe his arrogance came through on the applications.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.


You believe that the reason he wasn't accepted was because he is asian? Based on what?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You know, there is something we all can do to revive meritocracy. You know where the smart kids are these days, so when it’s time to recruit on campus, bypass HYP et al. When you get a stack of resumes, ignore the brand names, be on the lookout for the brilliant kids who ended up at state schools. Let the different pipelines and networks develop.


Charlie will be in a position to recruit people one day. Great strides are being made by Asian-Americans every day. There is a reason why people are jealous and targeting Asian-Americans nowadays. Asians voted for Biden and the votes shifted to Democrats. We are becoming a voice. Still a faint voice but there is enough anger in my community.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.


You believe that the reason he wasn't accepted was because he is asian? Based on what?


Based on when colleges remove race as a factor, they overwhelmingly accept Asian-Americans. UCLA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I dont get this. He is of course accepted to Penn State and Umd where he will likely kill it and ot scholly money.

And then 10 other schools on the list that are extremely difficult to access even for tip top students.

Why did he not also apply to some in between these two groups?


Yet, NOT difficult at all for vulgar, below average students to get into--as evidenced by that one that got into Cornell.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No one should be surprised by his results, even in a non-COVID year. My kid with a perfect SAT score and three perfect subject test scores etc. only applied to three tippy top schools a few years ago and expected to get rejected, and she did, along with every single other high stats, high rigor, non-hooked kid we know. And she and some of them had some really high level and interesting ECs. Playing violin for 10 years isn’t going to excite a school if you are recruited for the orchestra nor is varsity or club volleyball if you are not recruited to play.

I’m not sure why anyone thinks high stats are synonymous with merit. Nothing in the list he presented should have made him or anyone else think admissions to any of those top 10 schools was remotely likely to happen, because he had nothing special from their perspective to distinguish himself from all the other bright kids who applied. It makes me sad that he didn’t realize this. Tons of great SLACs or top 40 schools would have been delighted to have him.


How do you know that he did not distinguish himself. This is the fuzzy logic sick racists use to discriminate against Asian-Americans. Oh, he must not have a personality or something to distinguish himself...oh, he must be a boring person with no original thought...oh, he only has book knowledge. Meanwhile your ilk produces as asshat like Donald Trump.

He is special. More special than all those hooked individuals who are given admission in the top schools who have nothing of substance to show for themselves.


Not the PP, but it wasn't her who said he didn't distinguish himself so much as the 10 schools where he was either rejected or waitlisted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.


You believe that the reason he wasn't accepted was because he is asian? Based on what?


discovery in the Harvard lawsuit?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.


You believe that the reason he wasn't accepted was because he is asian? Based on what?


Based on when colleges remove race as a factor, they overwhelmingly accept Asian-Americans. UCLA.


How convenient that you chose to use a school that he did not apply to as your example. We will never know if he would have been admitted into UCLA will we.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.


Aww, nice note. Good luck to your kid and Charlie. Im Indian American and have already prepared my kids for this reality. The schools my husband and I went to may not be in reach, but it’s due to demographics, not merit. They can get a fine and even better education than we did, frankly. Elite in higher ed is being redefined.
Anonymous
30,000 valedictorians
30,000 salutorians

20,000 ivy league seats

See the problem here? And that's only 2 deep for each HS, and does not account for other hooks, or concentrated expected majors, or other factors.

Sad for this kid, for sure. But it's going to happen to more than 2 out of 3 kids like him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.


You believe that the reason he wasn't accepted was because he is asian? Based on what?


Based on when colleges remove race as a factor, they overwhelmingly accept Asian-Americans. UCLA.


How convenient that you chose to use a school that he did not apply to as your example. We will never know if he would have been admitted into UCLA will we.


If UCLA iwere such a great match for this student, why didn't he apply?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting.

He's obviously bright and industrious and I'm sure will be successful no matter where he goes, but yes it really is sad.


Why is it sad? I think colleges realize that after a certain point kids are going to be successful, so only taking perfect stats kids isn't any better than taking some kids will a 1490 instead of a 1590. Colleges just aren't going to fill their classes with perfect stats kids and I think that's a good thing. It's still a meritocracy. A kid with a 1490 isn't destined for failure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:maybe because he can’t spell Varsity?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.


Aww, nice note. Good luck to your kid and Charlie. Im Indian American and have already prepared my kids for this reality. The schools my husband and I went to may not be in reach, but it’s due to demographics, not merit. They can get a fine and even better education than we did, frankly. Elite in higher ed is being redefined.



Why are you putting that chip on your kids' shoulders about colleges with acceptance rates in the single digits? Are there a lot of students at Princeton with that kind of entitled attitude and if so why do you want your kid to go there?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:maybe because he can’t spell Varsity?




Or maybe because he did not pay consultants to write and proof his papers. Varsity Blues baby. All the scum are in the top universities now. Asians should boycott Harvard.
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