What ever happened to Crown HS?

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NP here. You're both right but here's a clearer statement: In the upcounty boundary study, the vast majority of kids in Clarksburg went from having a 10-15 min bus ride to a 30-35 min bus ride to the high school, and in Germantown, more kids are now walkers to the high school.

No, that's not accurate. In the upcounty boundary study, the area across the street from Seneca Valley High School was reassigned from Northwest High School (bus service) to Seneca Valley High School (walk zone), and the Cabin Branch area of Clarksburg was reassigned from Clarksburg High School (10 minute bus ride) to Seneca Valley High School (15 minute bus ride). Among other changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

NP here. You're both right but here's a clearer statement: In the upcounty boundary study, the vast majority of kids in Clarksburg went from having a 10-15 min bus ride to a 30-35 min bus ride to the high school, and in Germantown, more kids are now walkers to the high school.

No, that's not accurate. In the upcounty boundary study, the area across the street from Seneca Valley High School was reassigned from Northwest High School (bus service) to Seneca Valley High School (walk zone), and the Cabin Branch area of Clarksburg was reassigned from Clarksburg High School (10 minute bus ride) to Seneca Valley High School (15 minute bus ride). Among other changes.

I am 3.2 miles from CHS and 7.8 miles from SVHS. Your statement that there's only a 5 minute bus ride difference is wrong. We love SVHS so no need for you to continue defending the bus times. The reality is CHS is much closer to us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

NP here. You're both right but here's a clearer statement: In the upcounty boundary study, the vast majority of kids in Clarksburg went from having a 10-15 min bus ride to a 30-35 min bus ride to the high school, and in Germantown, more kids are now walkers to the high school.

No, that's not accurate. In the upcounty boundary study, the area across the street from Seneca Valley High School was reassigned from Northwest High School (bus service) to Seneca Valley High School (walk zone), and the Cabin Branch area of Clarksburg was reassigned from Clarksburg High School (10 minute bus ride) to Seneca Valley High School (15 minute bus ride). Among other changes.

I am 3.2 miles from CHS and 7.8 miles from SVHS. Your statement that there's only a 5 minute bus ride difference is wrong. We love SVHS so no need for you to continue defending the bus times. The reality is CHS is much closer to us.

OK, so tell us the actual bus times. Did your children previously ride the bus to CHS and now ride the bus to SVHS, like mine did?

[Anonymous]

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NP here. You're both right but here's a clearer statement: In the upcounty boundary study, the vast majority of kids in Clarksburg went from having a 10-15 min bus ride to a 30-35 min bus ride to the high school, and in Germantown, more kids are now walkers to the high school.

No, that's not accurate. In the upcounty boundary study, the area across the street from Seneca Valley High School was reassigned from Northwest High School (bus service) to Seneca Valley High School (walk zone), and the Cabin Branch area of Clarksburg was reassigned from Clarksburg High School (10 minute bus ride) to Seneca Valley High School (15 minute bus ride). Among other changes.

I am 3.2 miles from CHS and 7.8 miles from SVHS. Your statement that there's only a 5 minute bus ride difference is wrong. We love SVHS so no need for you to continue defending the bus times. The reality is CHS is much closer to us.

OK, so tell us the actual bus times. Did your children previously ride the bus to CHS and now ride the bus to SVHS, like mine did?

Bus time seems to be subject to space-time distortion especially in wealthy areas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

NP here. You're both right but here's a clearer statement: In the upcounty boundary study, the vast majority of kids in Clarksburg went from having a 10-15 min bus ride to a 30-35 min bus ride to the high school, and in Germantown, more kids are now walkers to the high school.

No, that's not accurate. In the upcounty boundary study, the area across the street from Seneca Valley High School was reassigned from Northwest High School (bus service) to Seneca Valley High School (walk zone), and the Cabin Branch area of Clarksburg was reassigned from Clarksburg High School (10 minute bus ride) to Seneca Valley High School (15 minute bus ride). Among other changes.

When they change boundaries for high schools in upcounty, did they also change boundaries for elementary school and middle school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NP here. You're both right but here's a clearer statement: In the upcounty boundary study, the vast majority of kids in Clarksburg went from having a 10-15 min bus ride to a 30-35 min bus ride to the high school, and in Germantown, more kids are now walkers to the high school.

No, that's not accurate. In the upcounty boundary study, the area across the street from Seneca Valley High School was reassigned from Northwest High School (bus service) to Seneca Valley High School (walk zone), and the Cabin Branch area of Clarksburg was reassigned from Clarksburg High School (10 minute bus ride) to Seneca Valley High School (15 minute bus ride). Among other changes.

When they change boundaries for high schools in upcounty, did they also change boundaries for elementary school and middle school?

They changed some of the middle-school boundaries. They did not change any elementary-school boundaries; the elementary schools were outside the scope of the boundary study.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

NP here. You're both right but here's a clearer statement: In the upcounty boundary study, the vast majority of kids in Clarksburg went from having a 10-15 min bus ride to a 30-35 min bus ride to the high school, and in Germantown, more kids are now walkers to the high school.

No, that's not accurate. In the upcounty boundary study, the area across the street from Seneca Valley High School was reassigned from Northwest High School (bus service) to Seneca Valley High School (walk zone), and the Cabin Branch area of Clarksburg was reassigned from Clarksburg High School (10 minute bus ride) to Seneca Valley High School (15 minute bus ride). Among other changes.

When they change boundaries for high schools in upcounty, did they also change boundaries for elementary school and middle school?

They changed some of the middle-school boundaries. They did not change any elementary-school boundaries; the elementary schools were outside the scope of the boundary study.

So that means crown will not result in elementary school boundary change?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

NP here. You're both right but here's a clearer statement: In the upcounty boundary study, the vast majority of kids in Clarksburg went from having a 10-15 min bus ride to a 30-35 min bus ride to the high school, and in Germantown, more kids are now walkers to the high school.

No, that's not accurate. In the upcounty boundary study, the area across the street from Seneca Valley High School was reassigned from Northwest High School (bus service) to Seneca Valley High School (walk zone), and the Cabin Branch area of Clarksburg was reassigned from Clarksburg High School (10 minute bus ride) to Seneca Valley High School (15 minute bus ride). Among other changes.

When they change boundaries for high schools in upcounty, did they also change boundaries for elementary school and middle school?

They changed some of the middle-school boundaries. They did not change any elementary-school boundaries; the elementary schools were outside the scope of the boundary study.

So that means crown will not result in elementary school boundary change?

That would just be too complicated so I highly doubt it. Of course MCPS can do whatever they want though.

[Anonymous]

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So that means crown will not result in elementary school boundary change?

We don't know what the scope of the Crown boundary study is yet, because the Board of Education has not voted on it yet. The Board of Education decides on the scope of the boundary study - i.e., which clusters/schools it will include.

Now, do I, personally, think that the scope of the Crown boundary study will include elementary schools? No, I don't. Even without elementary schools, the Crown boundary study will be huge. But I am not on the board of Education!

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Can RM lose both King Farm and Fallsgrove? What does that do to both race and FARMS? And does that mean you are chopping up College Gardens?

They could move Woodley Gardens back to CG to make up for losing KG. It was moved to Beall when Rustin opened.

That is not going to happen. This is a HS rezoning effort only.

I hope it only rezones HS, but since the triangle of fallsmead and falls grove from Ritchie park may move to crown, it seems mcps may have to redraw ES boundaries to make sense

There could be split articulation but at the HS level only. FG continues to go to RP, then FG could end up at Crown for HS. There is split articulation now within MCPS. Wootton cluster currently has split articulation -- Cold Spring neighborhoods go to CJMS then to Wootton for HS. So, split articulation is not a new thing.

Cold spring is a whole ES going to Cabin John. Do they have split articulation at ES level?

Sometimes, yes. Diamond ES goes to Lakelands Park and Ridgeview. Pine Crest ES goes to Eastern and SSIMS, after a recent boundary change.

How terrible. They should never split elementary schools.

But you keep saying you want proximity to be the #1 priority. If everyone goes to their closest schools, that would mean more split articulations.

It's not just me. It's 90+ % of the county according to the boundary analysis. And we realize that proximity can't be the only factor. Things like split articulations and I overcrowding are good reasons to send kids to slightly father schools. Diversity is not a good reason. Again, 90+ % of the county said so.

[Anonymous]

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It's not just me. It's 90+ % of the county according to the boundary analysis. And we realize that proximity can't be the only factor. Things like split articulations and I overcrowding are good reasons to send kids to slightly father schools. Diversity is not a good reason. Again, 90+ % of the county said so.

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Can RM lose both King Farm and Fallsgrove? What does that do to both race and FARMS? And does that mean you are chopping up College Gardens?

They could move Woodley Gardens back to CG to make up for losing KG. It was moved to Beall when Rustin opened.

That is not going to happen. This is a HS rezoning effort only.

I hope it only rezones HS, but since the triangle of fallsmead and falls grove from Ritchie park may move to crown, it seems mcps may have to redraw ES boundaries to make sense

There could be split articulation but at the HS level only. FG continues to go to RP, then FG could end up at Crown for HS. There is split articulation now within MCPS. Wootton cluster currently has split articulation -- Cold Spring neighborhoods go to CJMS then to Wootton for HS. So, split articulation is not a new thing.

Cold spring is a whole ES going to Cabin John. Do they have split articulation at ES level?

Sometimes, yes. Diamond ES goes to Lakelands Park and Ridgeview. Pine Crest ES goes to Eastern and SSIMS, after a recent boundary change.

How terrible. They should never split elementary schools.

But you keep saying you want proximity to be the #1 priority. If everyone goes to their closest schools, that would mean more split articulations.

It's not just me. It's 90+ % of the county according to the boundary analysis. And we realize that proximity can't be the only factor. Things like split articulations and I overcrowding are good reasons to send kids to slightly father schools. Diversity is not a good reason. Again, 90+ % of the county said so.

OK, so by "never," you didn't mean never.

And no, that wasn't "90% of the county." It was 87% of the ~2000 people who opted, in the middle of the pandemic, to take a survey after trying out the interactive boundary explorer tool after attending a zoom meeting about the boundary analysis. The boundary analysis report specifically said the survey respondents were not representative of the county's population.

[Anonymous]

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So that means crown will not result in elementary school boundary change?

We don't know what the scope of the Crown boundary study is yet, because the Board of Education has not voted on it yet. The Board of Education decides on the scope of the boundary study - i.e., which clusters/schools it will include.

Now, do I, personally, think that the scope of the Crown boundary study will include elementary schools? No, I don't. Even without elementary schools, the Crown boundary study will be huge. But I am not on the board of Education!

It will be huge, especially after they include Woodward in the study. It'll end up covering 1/3 of the county and the pro-busers will have their busing after all.

[Anonymous]

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So that means crown will not result in elementary school boundary change?

We don't know what the scope of the Crown boundary study is yet, because the Board of Education has not voted on it yet. The Board of Education decides on the scope of the boundary study - i.e., which clusters/schools it will include.

Now, do I, personally, think that the scope of the Crown boundary study will include elementary schools? No, I don't. Even without elementary schools, the Crown boundary study will be huge. But I am not on the board of Education!

It will be huge, especially after they include Woodward in the study. It'll end up covering 1/3 of the county and the pro-busers will have their busing after all.

Wrong again. Two separate studies, with separate scopes and timelines.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Can RM lose both King Farm and Fallsgrove? What does that do to both race and FARMS? And does that mean you are chopping up College Gardens?

They could move Woodley Gardens back to CG to make up for losing KG. It was moved to Beall when Rustin opened.

That is not going to happen. This is a HS rezoning effort only.

I hope it only rezones HS, but since the triangle of fallsmead and falls grove from Ritchie park may move to crown, it seems mcps may have to redraw ES boundaries to make sense

There could be split articulation but at the HS level only. FG continues to go to RP, then FG could end up at Crown for HS. There is split articulation now within MCPS. Wootton cluster currently has split articulation -- Cold Spring neighborhoods go to CJMS then to Wootton for HS. So, split articulation is not a new thing.

Cold spring is a whole ES going to Cabin John. Do they have split articulation at ES level?

Sometimes, yes. Diamond ES goes to Lakelands Park and Ridgeview. Pine Crest ES goes to Eastern and SSIMS, after a recent boundary change.

How terrible. They should never split elementary schools.

But you keep saying you want proximity to be the #1 priority. If everyone goes to their closest schools, that would mean more split articulations.

It's not just me. It's 90+ % of the county according to the boundary analysis. And we realize that proximity can't be the only factor. Things like split articulations and I overcrowding are good reasons to send kids to slightly father schools. Diversity is not a good reason. Again, 90+ % of the county said so.

OK, so by "never," you didn't mean never.

And no, that wasn't "90% of the county." It was 87% of the ~2000 people who opted, in the middle of the pandemic, to take a survey after trying out the interactive boundary explorer tool after attending a zoom meeting about the boundary analysis. The boundary analysis report specifically said the survey respondents were not representative of the county's population.

You're right. I meant almost never. And never just to balance the skin tones of the schools. Better?

And imagine thinking that 90% to 87% is statistically significant. But I'll use your numbers from now on.

Almost 90% of the county values proximity more than any other factor according to the boundary analysis. And we realize that proximity can't be the only factor. Things like split articulations and I overcrowding are good reasons to send kids to slightly father schools. Diversity is not a good reason. Again, almost 90% of the county said so.