Biden's VP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden has the black voters and the midwest voters covered. What he needs is someone from Bernie's side as VP, to get the Berniebros to the general election. That will also help in bringing fresh ideas into the WH. I say this as someone who cannot.stand.Bernie.

The Bernie Bros won't come to his side no matter what, and they already are blaming Warren for his ST loss. So forget them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don't think it will be Warren or Klobuchar. They are qualifed on paper but just could not get out the vote.

Are you kidding? Do you really think that Biden had any chance in Minnesota if it weren't for Klobuchar? As late as Monday, the polls showed Klobuchar at 27%, Sanders at 21% and Biden at 20%. Biden won with 38.6% to Sanders 29.9%. In 2016, Clinton lost MN in 2016 by 27.6 points to Trump. Klobuchar is very popular there and has won districts that Trump carried by more than 20 points.

Additionally, her brand of midwest pragmatism would be helpful throughout the midwest an area that has long been the weakness of the Democratic party. The Democrats hold the costs and the Republicans hold the middle of the country. If you don't think a popular midwestern senator can help, then I don't know what to tell you. Look at the results from 2016:



Look at that huge swath down the middle of the country. A pragmatic midwesterner will definitely help from The Dakotas down to Texas. Likely more than any other candidate other than perhaps a Latinx candidate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've read in more than one place now that Wisconsin could be the pivotal state. Which VP candidate helps there? Amy?

Tammy Baldwin. Would also be the first out LGBT person on a major party ticket.

Not a terrible choice. She cruised to re-election in 2018. The Democrat governor will appoint another Democrat to take her place in the US Senate which is critically important.

This is problematic for Warren, as MA's governor is Charlie Baker. He will nominate a Republican as her replacement in the Senate. The Dems can't afford to lose any seats.

Yes, I thought of her first, but we can't risk her seat. She'll be an effective surrogate in any case. Doesn't need to be from Wisconsin just someone who appeals to that demographic. So probably Amy.

Baldwin is more compelling to me than Amy, tbh.

Are you from Wisconsin?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden has the black voters and the midwest voters covered. What he needs is someone from Bernie's side as VP, to get the Berniebros to the general election. That will also help in bringing fresh ideas into the WH. I say this as someone who cannot.stand.Bernie.

The Bernie Bros won't come to his side no matter what, and they already are blaming Warren for his ST loss. So forget them.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't think it will be Warren or Klobuchar. They are qualifed on paper but just could not get out the vote.

Are you kidding? Do you really think that Biden had any chance in Minnesota if it weren't for Klobuchar? As late as Monday, the polls showed Klobuchar at 27%, Sanders at 21% and Biden at 20%. Biden won with 38.6% to Sanders 29.9%. In 2016, Clinton lost MN in 2016 by 27.6 points to Trump. Klobuchar is very popular there and has won districts that Trump carried by more than 20 points.

Additionally, her brand of midwest pragmatism would be helpful throughout the midwest an area that has long been the weakness of the Democratic party. The Democrats hold the costs and the Republicans hold the middle of the country. If you don't think a popular midwestern senator can help, then I don't know what to tell you. Look at the results from 2016:



Look at that huge swath down the middle of the country. A pragmatic midwesterner will definitely help from The Dakotas down to Texas. Likely more than any other candidate other than perhaps a Latinx candidate.

I think that's right. Julian Castro did nothing for Elizabeth Warren, so I don't know which Latinx candidate could actually generate some enthusiasm. Sticking with the pragmatic midwestern seems the better play.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't think it will be Warren or Klobuchar. They are qualifed on paper but just could not get out the vote.

Are you kidding? Do you really think that Biden had any chance in Minnesota if it weren't for Klobuchar? As late as Monday, the polls showed Klobuchar at 27%, Sanders at 21% and Biden at 20%. Biden won with 38.6% to Sanders 29.9%. In 2016, Clinton lost MN in 2016 by 27.6 points to Trump. Klobuchar is very popular there and has won districts that Trump carried by more than 20 points.

Additionally, her brand of midwest pragmatism would be helpful throughout the midwest an area that has long been the weakness of the Democratic party. The Democrats hold the costs and the Republicans hold the middle of the country. If you don't think a popular midwestern senator can help, then I don't know what to tell you. Look at the results from 2016:



Look at that huge swath down the middle of the country. A pragmatic midwesterner will definitely help from The Dakotas down to Texas. Likely more than any other candidate other than perhaps a Latinx candidate.

You’re living in a dream world if you think the Plains and TX have a shot to turn blue in 2020.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't think it will be Warren or Klobuchar. They are qualifed on paper but just could not get out the vote.

Are you kidding? Do you really think that Biden had any chance in Minnesota if it weren't for Klobuchar? As late as Monday, the polls showed Klobuchar at 27%, Sanders at 21% and Biden at 20%. Biden won with 38.6% to Sanders 29.9%. In 2016, Clinton lost MN in 2016 by 27.6 points to Trump. Klobuchar is very popular there and has won districts that Trump carried by more than 20 points.

Additionally, her brand of midwest pragmatism would be helpful throughout the midwest an area that has long been the weakness of the Democratic party. The Democrats hold the costs and the Republicans hold the middle of the country. If you don't think a popular midwestern senator can help, then I don't know what to tell you. Look at the results from 2016:



Look at that huge swath down the middle of the country. A pragmatic midwesterner will definitely help from The Dakotas down to Texas. Likely more than any other candidate other than perhaps a Latinx candidate.

I think that's right. Julian Castro did nothing for Elizabeth Warren, so I don't know which Latinx candidate could actually generate some enthusiasm. Sticking with the pragmatic midwestern seems the better play.

Isn't Jo already a pragmatic midwesterner? Why does he need more of those?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't think it will be Warren or Klobuchar. They are qualifed on paper but just could not get out the vote.

Are you kidding? Do you really think that Biden had any chance in Minnesota if it weren't for Klobuchar? As late as Monday, the polls showed Klobuchar at 27%, Sanders at 21% and Biden at 20%. Biden won with 38.6% to Sanders 29.9%. In 2016, Clinton lost MN in 2016 by 27.6 points to Trump. Klobuchar is very popular there and has won districts that Trump carried by more than 20 points.

Additionally, her brand of midwest pragmatism would be helpful throughout the midwest an area that has long been the weakness of the Democratic party. The Democrats hold the costs and the Republicans hold the middle of the country. If you don't think a popular midwestern senator can help, then I don't know what to tell you. Look at the results from 2016:



Look at that huge swath down the middle of the country. A pragmatic midwesterner will definitely help from The Dakotas down to Texas. Likely more than any other candidate other than perhaps a Latinx candidate.

But Dems don’t need the Dakotas or Nebraska or Oklahoma or Iowa or Missouri to win.

Wisconsin. Pennsylvania. Michigan. Repeat after me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden has the black voters and the midwest voters covered. What he needs is someone from Bernie's side as VP, to get the Berniebros to the general election. That will also help in bringing fresh ideas into the WH. I say this as someone who cannot.stand.Bernie.

He doesn't have the Latino vote either, and folks remember he worked with the Deporter in Chief.

The complexity is that I cannot think of a prominent Latino/ a to fill the VP role, Julian Castro is a lightweight.

Ideas? Maybe Garcetti from LA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't think it will be Warren or Klobuchar. They are qualifed on paper but just could not get out the vote.

Are you kidding? Do you really think that Biden had any chance in Minnesota if it weren't for Klobuchar? As late as Monday, the polls showed Klobuchar at 27%, Sanders at 21% and Biden at 20%. Biden won with 38.6% to Sanders 29.9%. In 2016, Clinton lost MN in 2016 by 27.6 points to Trump. Klobuchar is very popular there and has won districts that Trump carried by more than 20 points.

Additionally, her brand of midwest pragmatism would be helpful throughout the midwest an area that has long been the weakness of the Democratic party. The Democrats hold the costs and the Republicans hold the middle of the country. If you don't think a popular midwestern senator can help, then I don't know what to tell you. Look at the results from 2016:



Look at that huge swath down the middle of the country. A pragmatic midwesterner will definitely help from The Dakotas down to Texas. Likely more than any other candidate other than perhaps a Latinx candidate.

I think that's right. Julian Castro did nothing for Elizabeth Warren, so I don't know which Latinx candidate could actually generate some enthusiasm. Sticking with the pragmatic midwestern seems the better play.

Isn't Jo already a pragmatic midwesterner? Why does he need more of those?

Huh? His roots are PA/DE.

[Anonymous]

I do not think the checkoxes really matter at all this time. Jo is THE midwesterner.

What he needs is a <60 super charismatic male or female as running partner. Someone along the lines of Obama.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't think it will be Warren or Klobuchar. They are qualifed on paper but just could not get out the vote.

Are you kidding? Do you really think that Biden had any chance in Minnesota if it weren't for Klobuchar? As late as Monday, the polls showed Klobuchar at 27%, Sanders at 21% and Biden at 20%. Biden won with 38.6% to Sanders 29.9%. In 2016, Clinton lost MN in 2016 by 27.6 points to Trump. Klobuchar is very popular there and has won districts that Trump carried by more than 20 points.

Additionally, her brand of midwest pragmatism would be helpful throughout the midwest an area that has long been the weakness of the Democratic party. The Democrats hold the costs and the Republicans hold the middle of the country. If you don't think a popular midwestern senator can help, then I don't know what to tell you. Look at the results from 2016:



Look at that huge swath down the middle of the country. A pragmatic midwesterner will definitely help from The Dakotas down to Texas. Likely more than any other candidate other than perhaps a Latinx candidate.

I think that's right. Julian Castro did nothing for Elizabeth Warren, so I don't know which Latinx candidate could actually generate some enthusiasm. Sticking with the pragmatic midwestern seems the better play.

Isn't Jo already a pragmatic midwesterner? Why does he need more of those?

Huh? His roots are PA/DE.

PA folks are midwestern in attitude, though they are almost East coast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't think it will be Warren or Klobuchar. They are qualifed on paper but just could not get out the vote.

Are you kidding? Do you really think that Biden had any chance in Minnesota if it weren't for Klobuchar? As late as Monday, the polls showed Klobuchar at 27%, Sanders at 21% and Biden at 20%. Biden won with 38.6% to Sanders 29.9%. In 2016, Clinton lost MN in 2016 by 27.6 points to Trump. Klobuchar is very popular there and has won districts that Trump carried by more than 20 points.

Additionally, her brand of midwest pragmatism would be helpful throughout the midwest an area that has long been the weakness of the Democratic party. The Democrats hold the costs and the Republicans hold the middle of the country. If you don't think a popular midwestern senator can help, then I don't know what to tell you. Look at the results from 2016:



Look at that huge swath down the middle of the country. A pragmatic midwesterner will definitely help from The Dakotas down to Texas. Likely more than any other candidate other than perhaps a Latinx candidate.

But Dems don’t need the Dakotas or Nebraska or Oklahoma or Iowa or Missouri to win.

Wisconsin. Pennsylvania. Michigan. Repeat after me.

Biden polls ahead in PA and MI, which is why some are stating WI will be the key.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've read in more than one place now that Wisconsin could be the pivotal state. Which VP candidate helps there? Amy?

Tammy Baldwin. Would also be the first out LGBT person on a major party ticket.

Not a terrible choice. She cruised to re-election in 2018. The Democrat governor will appoint another Democrat to take her place in the US Senate which is critically important.

This is problematic for Warren, as MA's governor is Charlie Baker. He will nominate a Republican as her replacement in the Senate. The Dems can't afford to lose any seats.

Yes, I thought of her first, but we can't risk her seat. She'll be an effective surrogate in any case. Doesn't need to be from Wisconsin just someone who appeals to that demographic. So probably Amy.

Baldwin is more compelling to me than Amy, tbh.

Are you from Wisconsin?

NP. I’m originally from Wisconsin and I really do think she would be an excellent pick. She is deeply progressive, which would be good for that wing of the party, but has a very low-key persona that just oozes Midwestern pragmatism and “folksiness” that I think would play very well among moderates in MI and PA (we already know it plays well in WI).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that's right. Julian Castro did nothing for Elizabeth Warren, so I don't know which Latinx candidate could actually generate some enthusiasm. Sticking with the pragmatic midwestern seems the better play.

Unfortunately, due to historical racism, there are no Latinx politicians right now that have the experience to really step up as VPOTUS. A VPOTUS candidate has to be a strong enough politican with enough experience that they could step into the presidency if necessary. Especially when we are dealing with electing a near octagenarian president, we need to ensure that the VP on the ticket is someone that the country can feel comfortable with taking over the country in an emergency. Remember that with both Sanders and Biden, there are health concerns and even if we aren't expecting them to die in office (despite the superstition of years ending in 0), either one could have a health problem that takes them out of office for days, weeks or months and the country will hesitate if the running mate is not someone they feel is capable of handling the presidency in an absence.

The right candidate needs to have either solid executive experience or years of federal experience. You saw how much was made about whether or not Buttigieg had enough experience as only a small town mayor. Right now, the Castro brothers are the only two with enough national name recognition and recognizable experience that might add to the ticket.

Funny thought...maybe the ticket should be Buttigieg/Ocasio in 2032.