Robert Frost beats Takoma Park in Mathcounts

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

You can check it out on the link provided above

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

TPMS should be 100 for each grade. Program selects 100 top kids for magnet science/math program. Other schools should have very few or none, if selection is fair and transparent.
This entire thread says at least one thing, non magnet parents/Kids have suffered social humiliation for so long from magnet parents/kids that they are up and arms to prove that non-magnet kids are also capable and smart, and there are kids with better science/math Caliber in the non-magnet schools.
Getting into magnet proves nothing. It gives social bragging rights by parents/students, grow up!!!

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

You can check it out on the link provided above

I am sure you have the data. Here is what I found for the 7th grade:

2018 TPMS has 9 7th grade honor rolls (not impacted by the new selection)
2019 TPMS has 4 7th grade honor rolls (impacted by the new selection)

You still want us to believe that the magnet program has got better?

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

You can check it out on the link provided above

I am sure you have the data. Here is what I found for the 7th grade:

2018 TPMS has 9 7th grade honor rolls (not impacted by the new selection)
2019 TPMS has 4 7th grade honor rolls (impacted by the new selection)

You still want us to believe that the magnet program has got better?

Yes because amc8 success correlates well.with attendance at AOps, Dr. Li, etc. Amc8 success correlates less well with IQ tests.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

TPMS should be 100 for each grade. Program selects 100 top kids for magnet science/math program. Other schools should have very few or none, if selection is fair and transparent.
This entire thread says at least one thing, non magnet parents/Kids have suffered social humiliation for so long from magnet parents/kids that they are up and arms to prove that non-magnet kids are also capable and smart, and there are kids with better science/math Caliber in the non-magnet schools.
Getting into magnet proves nothing. It gives social bragging rights by parents/students, grow up!!!

Wow, lady, if you and your snowflake 'have suffered social humiliation' due to not getting into a magnet, your family must be having some deep-rooted problems. Not related to magnet admission.
My child didn't get into a CES in 4th and now got into a magnet, we accepted but are still on the fence due to the commute and I'm not ruling out returning to home MS. Social bragging rights? Really?

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

You can check it out on the link provided above

I am sure you have the data. Here is what I found for the 7th grade:

2018 TPMS has 9 7th grade honor rolls (not impacted by the new selection)
2019 TPMS has 4 7th grade honor rolls (impacted by the new selection)

You still want us to believe that the magnet program has got better?

Yes because amc8 success correlates well.with attendance at AOps, Dr. Li, etc. Amc8 success correlates less well with IQ tests.

I truly admire you. You should seriously consider working for the state department.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

You can check it out on the link provided above

I am sure you have the data. Here is what I found for the 7th grade:

2018 TPMS has 9 7th grade honor rolls (not impacted by the new selection)
2019 TPMS has 4 7th grade honor rolls (impacted by the new selection)

You still want us to believe that the magnet program has got better?

Yes because amc8 success correlates well.with attendance at AOps, Dr. Li, etc. Amc8 success correlates less well with IQ tests.

The TPMS teacher has just said the the AMC 8 matters. Now this?
OK. What measures IQ? Not CogAT, right?

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

You can check it out on the link provided above

I am sure you have the data. Here is what I found for the 7th grade:

2018 TPMS has 9 7th grade honor rolls (not impacted by the new selection)
2019 TPMS has 4 7th grade honor rolls (impacted by the new selection)

You still want us to believe that the magnet program has got better?

Now they are just saying that math competitions are irrelevant. TPMS is stronger!!!! It has just got stronger because MCPS says so. Deal with it.

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Asian-American kids doing great? Or some other category?

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Np.

A lot of stupidity in this thread and it's gone on for 21 pages.

Fact is the AMC 8 matters. It's not about going to Dr. Li's. The kids that do well are very bright. It does help to practice the problems but any kid who doesn't have a high math IQ is not going to do well on these problems.

Another fact is the makeup of TPMS kids has changed under the new selection process. They are using criteria other than raw numbers to select the kids so a percentage of these kids are not the same as the ones before. It's not the whole 100 kids. It is probably more like half. The other half may have been there under the old system or the new system.

The big difference in the kids is interest and motivation. It used to take a lot to apply. It was a tedious process and you had to really want it or your parents had to really want it. Now you just sit back and you get picked. This will naturally result in some talented kids getting in who may not be interested in math team which my personal opinion is not really great for TPMS.

If I were MCPS I would add some kind of new layer to the admissions process that looks at interest. This isn't elementary school anymore. The kids have a better sense of what they like or whether they want to be in a magnet program.

DD is at a CES and got in the wait pool. I do think she would have been a strong candidate under the old system even though she does not prep due to high scores. She may have tried out for the math team.

Her good friend who might have been one of those stars on the math team did get in, but is not going due to there no longer being a lot of kids from her CES accepted.

I support the changes and universal screening except for the thing above them trying to look more at matching kids with what they like to do.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

It's stronger than ever. Since they started universal screening their drawing from a pool 10X larger than before. I wish these bitter parents would stop with the disinformation.

I teach at TPMS and my sense is the caliber of student has markedly improved in recent years because of the better screening methods.

Independent verifications (mathleague x 2 and Mathcounts) proves otherwise.

Do you mean independent verifications like the MAA, where in the latest AMC8 results, TPMS has 26 in honor roll while Frost has 5?
Where TPMS scores lead the state Maryland ?

http://amc-reg.maa.org/reports/generalreports.aspx

OMG. Now we are comparing the whole TPMS program with the whole Frost. Just BRILLIANT.

What were we comparing?

How about number of TPMS AMC8 honor roll kids *for each grade* over the past three years?

TPMS should be 100 for each grade. Program selects 100 top kids for magnet science/math program. Other schools should have very few or none, if selection is fair and transparent.
This entire thread says at least one thing, non magnet parents/Kids have suffered social humiliation for so long from magnet parents/kids that they are up and arms to prove that non-magnet kids are also capable and smart, and there are kids with better science/math Caliber in the non-magnet schools.
Getting into magnet proves nothing. It gives social bragging rights by parents/students, grow up!!!

Wow, lady, if you and your snowflake 'have suffered social humiliation' due to not getting into a magnet, your family must be having some deep-rooted problems. Not related to magnet admission.
My child didn't get into a CES in 4th and now got into a magnet, we accepted but are still on the fence due to the commute and I'm not ruling out returning to home MS. Social bragging rights? Really?

You got it wrong--some magnet kids subtly humiliate non-magnet kids....we have faced it...my DC was once told by one of his peers from magnet that DC is not smart enough, even the parents of magnet kids do that...i have been asked many a time, where my child goes to school in my first intro. and have been told that there is no comparison between regular school and magnet and magnet is not for everyone etc. I think we are on the same page....good education is more imp. than which school.

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The real issue is that using a laughably easy test such as Cogat to screen for selective magnets is silly. They should be using an AMC 8 or even an AMC 10 test. Then they'll have achieved astronomical self selection levels (mathematical speaking), and all parent dissent can be instantly stomped out. As a bonus TMPS will never ever, ever, not in a long time ever, lose a single math contest to anyone else (assuming all the selectees actually chose to go there and don't punt on acceptance).