Don't buy in MoCo until the school redistricting is setled?

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Yeah, that's a very small boundary and they would have to create an island in order to bus kids from Churchill to RM. I say unlikely Potomac will be effected by boundary changes for the sake of diversity, because very little available in terms of adjacent clusters. You would be safe to invest in Potomac.

No way. The only way that Potomac will not be impacted by diversity bussing would be if all the incumbent BOE members up for re-election are voted out and the MCCPTA/MCPS/MOCO Council endorsed candidates do not win.

First - MCPS has not problem creating islands or gerrymandering boundaries to achieve whatever its current goal is and if diversity is it then RM or Rockville High School will get Potomac kids. Second - MCPS is vindictive. They hate that Potomac parents are objecting to the county wide diversity boundary study. They will get even. Third - there is no way if the Silver Spring crowd gets re-elected that Churchill and Whitman will stay as they are now. These two schools are THE target and the envy, hatred and obsession with these schools from the SS crowd is crazy.

There really is not any safe place in MOCO. Even the UMC neighborhoods in the DCC which for whatever reason thinks they are immune to getting rezoned to a lower performing school will be impacted -if the initiative does not get stopped. The only things likely to stop it are election consequences or a case getting up to the SC.

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It's funny how the wealthiest people feel the most victimized. You all really think you are the center of the universe. It's kind of hilarious. They are not going to send SS students to Whitman (by the way, I went to Whitman, and I would not pay an extra couple hundred thousand to send my child there, but do what you like). They are probably going to send some Walter Johnson students to Einstein. They are probably going to look at other opportunities to get some more balance in adjacent clusters (e.g Diamond ES and Brown Station ES are right next to each other but one has a 10% FARMS rate and the other has a 70% FARMS rate). They are not going to bus students to the other side of the county.

I don't feel victimized, but we bought our very modest house mainly because it's within walking distance of Hoover/Churchill. We aren't wealthy and our neighbors aren't either - houses in my neighborhood are 600-800K, most people have 2-3 kids, and I can't imagine they can afford dropping 6 figures on privates. The Potomac people you're thinking off - the ones living in million plus dollar homes - don't send their kids to public school.

If we are having to put the kids on the bus to go miles and miles away instead, we will simply move.

Everyone seems to agree that kids who are currently in the walk zone should not be bussed instead.

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Yeah, that's a very small boundary and they would have to create an island in order to bus kids from Churchill to RM. I say unlikely Potomac will be effected by boundary changes for the sake of diversity, because very little available in terms of adjacent clusters. You would be safe to invest in Potomac.

No way. The only way that Potomac will not be impacted by diversity bussing would be if all the incumbent BOE members up for re-election are voted out and the MCCPTA/MCPS/MOCO Council endorsed candidates do not win.

First - MCPS has not problem creating islands or gerrymandering boundaries to achieve whatever its current goal is and if diversity is it then RM or Rockville High School will get Potomac kids. Second - MCPS is vindictive. They hate that Potomac parents are objecting to the county wide diversity boundary study. They will get even. Third - there is no way if the Silver Spring crowd gets re-elected that Churchill and Whitman will stay as they are now. These two schools are THE target and the envy, hatred and obsession with these schools from the SS crowd is crazy.

There really is not any safe place in MOCO. Even the UMC neighborhoods in the DCC which for whatever reason thinks they are immune to getting rezoned to a lower performing school will be impacted -if the initiative does not get stopped. The only things likely to stop it are election consequences or a case getting up to the SC.

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It's funny how the wealthiest people feel the most victimized. You all really think you are the center of the universe. It's kind of hilarious. They are not going to send SS students to Whitman (by the way, I went to Whitman, and I would not pay an extra couple hundred thousand to send my child there, but do what you like). They are probably going to send some Walter Johnson students to Einstein. They are probably going to look at other opportunities to get some more balance in adjacent clusters (e.g Diamond ES and Brown Station ES are right next to each other but one has a 10% FARMS rate and the other has a 70% FARMS rate). They are not going to bus students to the other side of the county.

I don't feel victimized, but we bought our very modest house mainly because it's within walking distance of Hoover/Churchill. We aren't wealthy and our neighbors aren't either - houses in my neighborhood are 600-800K, most people have 2-3 kids, and I can't imagine they can afford dropping 6 figures on privates. The Potomac people you're thinking off - the ones living in million plus dollar homes - don't send their kids to public school.

If we are having to put the kids on the bus to go miles and miles away instead, we will simply move.

Most people cannot afford a $600-800k home. Please get a reality check. If you are in walking distance of the school your home is not going to get rezoned.

I grew up in poverty and I'm aware of my privilege. But in MoCo, I'm pretty sure most people are paying that much for a house. A SFH in decent shape that's zoned for Einstein is going to cost over a half million. A quick search on Redfin shows me that many of the houses are the very same $600K+.

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Yeah, that's a very small boundary and they would have to create an island in order to bus kids from Churchill to RM. I say unlikely Potomac will be effected by boundary changes for the sake of diversity, because very little available in terms of adjacent clusters. You would be safe to invest in Potomac.

No way. The only way that Potomac will not be impacted by diversity bussing would be if all the incumbent BOE members up for re-election are voted out and the MCCPTA/MCPS/MOCO Council endorsed candidates do not win.

First - MCPS has not problem creating islands or gerrymandering boundaries to achieve whatever its current goal is and if diversity is it then RM or Rockville High School will get Potomac kids. Second - MCPS is vindictive. They hate that Potomac parents are objecting to the county wide diversity boundary study. They will get even. Third - there is no way if the Silver Spring crowd gets re-elected that Churchill and Whitman will stay as they are now. These two schools are THE target and the envy, hatred and obsession with these schools from the SS crowd is crazy.

There really is not any safe place in MOCO. Even the UMC neighborhoods in the DCC which for whatever reason thinks they are immune to getting rezoned to a lower performing school will be impacted -if the initiative does not get stopped. The only things likely to stop it are election consequences or a case getting up to the SC.

+1

It's funny how the wealthiest people feel the most victimized. You all really think you are the center of the universe. It's kind of hilarious. They are not going to send SS students to Whitman (by the way, I went to Whitman, and I would not pay an extra couple hundred thousand to send my child there, but do what you like). They are probably going to send some Walter Johnson students to Einstein. They are probably going to look at other opportunities to get some more balance in adjacent clusters (e.g Diamond ES and Brown Station ES are right next to each other but one has a 10% FARMS rate and the other has a 70% FARMS rate). They are not going to bus students to the other side of the county.

I don't feel victimized, but we bought our very modest house mainly because it's within walking distance of Hoover/Churchill. We aren't wealthy and our neighbors aren't either - houses in my neighborhood are 600-800K, most people have 2-3 kids, and I can't imagine they can afford dropping 6 figures on privates. The Potomac people you're thinking off - the ones living in million plus dollar homes - don't send their kids to public school.

If we are having to put the kids on the bus to go miles and miles away instead, we will simply move.

Most people cannot afford a $600-800k home. Please get a reality check. If you are in walking distance of the school your home is not going to get rezoned.

I grew up in poverty and I'm aware of my privilege. But in MoCo, I'm pretty sure most people are paying that much for a house. A SFH in decent shape that's zoned for Einstein is going to cost over a half million. A quick search on Redfin shows me that many of the houses are the very same $600K+.

First off, there's a world of difference between 500k and 800k. Second, you can buy houses in the 300's.

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Yeah, that's a very small boundary and they would have to create an island in order to bus kids from Churchill to RM. I say unlikely Potomac will be effected by boundary changes for the sake of diversity, because very little available in terms of adjacent clusters. You would be safe to invest in Potomac.

No way. The only way that Potomac will not be impacted by diversity bussing would be if all the incumbent BOE members up for re-election are voted out and the MCCPTA/MCPS/MOCO Council endorsed candidates do not win.

First - MCPS has not problem creating islands or gerrymandering boundaries to achieve whatever its current goal is and if diversity is it then RM or Rockville High School will get Potomac kids. Second - MCPS is vindictive. They hate that Potomac parents are objecting to the county wide diversity boundary study. They will get even. Third - there is no way if the Silver Spring crowd gets re-elected that Churchill and Whitman will stay as they are now. These two schools are THE target and the envy, hatred and obsession with these schools from the SS crowd is crazy.

There really is not any safe place in MOCO. Even the UMC neighborhoods in the DCC which for whatever reason thinks they are immune to getting rezoned to a lower performing school will be impacted -if the initiative does not get stopped. The only things likely to stop it are election consequences or a case getting up to the SC.

+1

It's funny how the wealthiest people feel the most victimized. You all really think you are the center of the universe. It's kind of hilarious. They are not going to send SS students to Whitman (by the way, I went to Whitman, and I would not pay an extra couple hundred thousand to send my child there, but do what you like). They are probably going to send some Walter Johnson students to Einstein. They are probably going to look at other opportunities to get some more balance in adjacent clusters (e.g Diamond ES and Brown Station ES are right next to each other but one has a 10% FARMS rate and the other has a 70% FARMS rate). They are not going to bus students to the other side of the county.

I don't feel victimized, but we bought our very modest house mainly because it's within walking distance of Hoover/Churchill. We aren't wealthy and our neighbors aren't either - houses in my neighborhood are 600-800K, most people have 2-3 kids, and I can't imagine they can afford dropping 6 figures on privates. The Potomac people you're thinking off - the ones living in million plus dollar homes - don't send their kids to public school.

If we are having to put the kids on the bus to go miles and miles away instead, we will simply move.

Most people cannot afford a $600-800k home. Please get a reality check. If you are in walking distance of the school your home is not going to get rezoned.

I grew up in poverty and I'm aware of my privilege. But in MoCo, I'm pretty sure most people are paying that much for a house. A SFH in decent shape that's zoned for Einstein is going to cost over a half million. A quick search on Redfin shows me that many of the houses are the very same $600K+.

First off, there's a world of difference between 500k and 800k. Second, you can buy houses in the 300's.

+1 Previous PP, you say you're aware of your privilege, but you come across as extremely out of touch. Median sale prices in MoCo are definitely below $500,000, and that's reflective of the people who can afford to buy. The considerable share of the population that cannot afford to buy is renting.

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There’s a lot of good info here! Thank you to everyone for their input. I know nothing is decided, but we were looking at the Mt Prospect new developments to feed into Travilah, frost and wootton. We’re not particularly set on these schools as we will be moving across counties for work changes. Just wanted to have an idea of whether folks think there’s a good chance we would be reassigned? If so, no biggie, we can just look elsewhere (no point in paying crazy prices since I’m sure they factored that into pricing). I’d be happy with most any school in the county with diversity and good education

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Any updates on where the county is on this?

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Any updates?

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Anonymous wrote:Any updates?

What are you wanting to know? The countywide boundary analysis is ongoing, but public meetings have been suspended due to COVID-19. An interim report from the consultants came out in March. You can read it here:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/publicinfo/boundary-analysis/interim-report/

[Anonymous]

Or, if you don't care so much about schools and don't have kids, buy in the lower score parts of the county. We were a bit nervous about resale value, but having a sfh on half an acre during stay-at-home has been wonderful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any updates on where the county is on this?

Nothing is going to happen for a while. MCPS is busy trying to figure out how to do school in 2020/2021. Plus the analysis is just that. MCPS does not have on the books any county wide boundary redraw plan. There are some schools currently being expanded/newly built, and there will be boundary assessments for those schools. That's it. Those are the CIP plan on the MCPS website.

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Anonymous wrote:Any updates on where the county is on this?

Nothing is going to happen for a while. MCPS is busy trying to figure out how to do school in 2020/2021. Plus the analysis is just that. MCPS does not have on the books any county wide boundary redraw plan. There are some schools currently being expanded/newly built, and there will be boundary assessments for those schools. That's it. Those are the CIP plan on the MCPS website.

Nothing was going to happen for awhile anyways.

[Anonymous]

Honestly I would not buy in MoCo - anywhere. When you don’t have a viable business community to put pressure on the lazy bureaucracy that is MCPS then you have nothing. But a shoebox in Northern VA over a mansion in MoCo.

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*Buy

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I would not buy in MoCo - anywhere. When you don’t have a viable business community to put pressure on the lazy bureaucracy that is MCPS then you have nothing. But a shoebox in Northern VA over a mansion in MoCo.

Hilarious, are you actually saying the schools are better in NoVA?

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Any updates on where the county is on this?

Nothing is going to happen for a while. MCPS is busy trying to figure out how to do school in 2020/2021. Plus the analysis is just that. MCPS does not have on the books any county wide boundary redraw plan. There are some schools currently being expanded/newly built, and there will be boundary assessments for those schools. That's it. Those are the CIP plan on the MCPS website.


Nothing was going to happen for awhile anyways.

I strongly doubt this. If anything the pandemic is an opportunity for MCPS to keep moving on this while people are distracted with survival. The backlash and groundswell against rezoning for diversity was/is very strong but any public meetings and other opportunities for people to object are gone now. The MCPS staff working on this are not the same ones dealing with how to deliver on-line learning so don't assume that anything has been tabled. If the BOE election puts in sycophant people like Shebra or Lynn Harris types then you better believe Pat will get her way and the diversity busing will be all steam ahead.