8 Years of Trump Tax Returns Are Subpoenaed by Manhattan D.A.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s going to get the Al Capone treatment - he will skate on the really dirty stuff, but will get tripped up by the tax fraud.

The tax fraud is not that big of a deal. He will simply move to another country as not paying your US taxes is only a crime in the US.

That wouldn't erase his past tax crimes, so he'd have to move to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the U.S., and would never be able to return to U.S. soil.

The US can seize his assets and recover taxes owed by auctioning them. I can’t think of any countries that won’t expedite him somewhere. Russia won’t expedite him to the US but they have an extradition treaty with Iran. Has everyone forgotten that Iran has issued a warrant for Trump for war crimes? If found guilty there he faces the death penalty, Iran style. 😃

Spellcheck changed extradite to expedite a couple of times. 🥺

We can only hope that one day Iran will be able to expedite an extradition of Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Loch him up ASAP!!!

loch
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His mom was from the Outer Hebrides!

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Anonymous wrote:Loch him up ASAP!!!

loch
/läk,läKH/
Learn to pronounce
nounSCOTTISH
noun: loch; plural noun: lochs
a lake.
"Loch Lomond"
an arm of the sea, especially when narrow or partially landlocked.
noun: sea loch; plural noun: sea lochs; plural noun: sea loches

His mom was from the Outer Hebrides!

True. She had to emigrate to America since all the men who hadn’t already died in WWI were killed when a ship bringing them back sank.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

It's not exotic- it looks like garden variety tax fraud. The investigators will decide.

The donor class isn't worried- because they didn't decide to become TV personalities and repeatedly brag about how not paying taxes is smart. Rich people with common sense know not to draw attention to themselves in this way if they are committing crimes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

Tax fraud doesn’t need to be “exotic” to be illegal. And, not sure if this is what Vance is looking into or whether it’s too old at this point, but what the family did with All County Building Supply & Maintenance Corp. is both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

Tax fraud doesn’t need to be “exotic” to be illegal. And, not sure if this is what Vance is looking into or whether it’s too old at this point, but what the family did with All County Building Supply & Maintenance Corp. is both.

Getting hung up on 'exotic' has yet to convince me that there's something actionable, especially if you consider the pressures the authorities have been responsive to in recent years.

And because someone had it deleted, I'll again remind people that Mitt Romney's taxes were full of very disturbing red flags and those were memory holed very, very quickly. And if you're inside the beltway and you didn't understand that then you are very much part of a problem that dwarfs anything Trump and family have been up to these past decades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

Tax fraud doesn’t need to be “exotic” to be illegal. And, not sure if this is what Vance is looking into or whether it’s too old at this point, but what the family did with All County Building Supply & Maintenance Corp. is both.

Getting hung up on 'exotic' has yet to convince me that there's something actionable, especially if you consider the pressures the authorities have been responsive to in recent years.

And because someone had it deleted, I'll again remind people that Mitt Romney's taxes were full of very disturbing red flags and those were memory holed very, very quickly. And if you're inside the beltway and you didn't understand that then you are very much part of a problem that dwarfs anything Trump and family have been up to these past decades.

It's not actionable for you. But apparently it's actionable for the Manhattan DA.

I wasn't into politics in 2012, when Romney ran for President so I can't speak to the details. But he did release his taxes. Likely the holes *WERE* informally investigated and nothing came of it.

Let's just see what happens, shall we?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

Tax fraud doesn’t need to be “exotic” to be illegal. And, not sure if this is what Vance is looking into or whether it’s too old at this point, but what the family did with All County Building Supply & Maintenance Corp. is both.

Getting hung up on 'exotic' has yet to convince me that there's something actionable, especially if you consider the pressures the authorities have been responsive to in recent years.

And because someone had it deleted, I'll again remind people that Mitt Romney's taxes were full of very disturbing red flags and those were memory holed very, very quickly. And if you're inside the beltway and you didn't understand that then you are very much part of a problem that dwarfs anything Trump and family have been up to these past decades.

It's not actionable for you. But apparently it's actionable for the Manhattan DA.

I wasn't into politics in 2012, when Romney ran for President so I can't speak to the details. But he did release his taxes. Likely the holes *WERE* informally investigated and nothing came of it.

Let's just see what happens, shall we?

It’s stuff that’s almost never gone after: it’s recent precedent (aka a highly captured legal system) that leaves me unimpressed.

Now if it were up to me, the entire donor class would be blown up by better tax law and enforcement. The rest of you can keep thinking Trump is some great aberration, but I’m as asymptotically close to as is possible he’s not.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

Tax fraud doesn’t need to be “exotic” to be illegal. And, not sure if this is what Vance is looking into or whether it’s too old at this point, but what the family did with All County Building Supply & Maintenance Corp. is both.

Getting hung up on 'exotic' has yet to convince me that there's something actionable, especially if you consider the pressures the authorities have been responsive to in recent years.

And because someone had it deleted, I'll again remind people that Mitt Romney's taxes were full of very disturbing red flags and those were memory holed very, very quickly. And if you're inside the beltway and you didn't understand that then you are very much part of a problem that dwarfs anything Trump and family have been up to these past decades.

It's not actionable for you. But apparently it's actionable for the Manhattan DA.

I wasn't into politics in 2012, when Romney ran for President so I can't speak to the details. But he did release his taxes. Likely the holes *WERE* informally investigated and nothing came of it.

Let's just see what happens, shall we?

It’s stuff that’s almost never gone after: it’s recent precedent (aka a highly captured legal system) that leaves me unimpressed.

Now if it were up to me, the entire donor class would be blown up by better tax law and enforcement. The rest of you can keep thinking Trump is some great aberration, but I’m as asymptotically close to as is possible he’s not.

Trump set alot of new precedents.

I do think Trump is an aberration. He's a clown who drew too much attention. These people always get extra attention from law enforcement. Every other rich person on the planet knows this. Why doesn't he? People who flaunt their tax fraud will be taken down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

Tax fraud doesn’t need to be “exotic” to be illegal. And, not sure if this is what Vance is looking into or whether it’s too old at this point, but what the family did with All County Building Supply & Maintenance Corp. is both.

Getting hung up on 'exotic' has yet to convince me that there's something actionable, especially if you consider the pressures the authorities have been responsive to in recent years.

And because someone had it deleted, I'll again remind people that Mitt Romney's taxes were full of very disturbing red flags and those were memory holed very, very quickly. And if you're inside the beltway and you didn't understand that then you are very much part of a problem that dwarfs anything Trump and family have been up to these past decades.

It's not actionable for you. But apparently it's actionable for the Manhattan DA.

I wasn't into politics in 2012, when Romney ran for President so I can't speak to the details. But he did release his taxes. Likely the holes *WERE* informally investigated and nothing came of it.

Let's just see what happens, shall we?

It’s stuff that’s almost never gone after: it’s recent precedent (aka a highly captured legal system) that leaves me unimpressed.

Now if it were up to me, the entire donor class would be blown up by better tax law and enforcement. The rest of you can keep thinking Trump is some great aberration, but I’m as asymptotically close to as is possible he’s not.

Trump set alot of new precedents.

I do think Trump is an aberration. He's a clown who drew too much attention. These people always get extra attention from law enforcement. Every other rich person on the planet knows this. Why doesn't he? People who flaunt their tax fraud will be taken down.

I'm with you on his being a clown who drew too much attention. But I don't think he's half as savagely mercenary as the nasty rich pieces of work I know who really game the system. Given how much money he inherited and the fact that he was largely focused on asset that went parabolic during his public ascent, i.e. NYC RE, he should be worth much , much more if he was at all competent with things like tax avoidance. I'm still very doubtful there's something juicy to be found here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here actually think Trump is anywhere near a serious tax cheat? Dude’s too much of a putz! The returns prolly reveal two things:
1. He’s much less rich than is hinted at
2. He’s still rich enough that our morally reprehensible tax code does his bidding

What powerful figure is going to get in front a parade where the big takeaway is that we’ve been treating the ultra-rich disturbingly well for decades???

You haven’t been paying attention. Of course there are things in the tax code which favor rich real estate investors but yes, he’s a serious tax cheat. Did you read the New York Times bombshell? The family invented a whole company out of nothing to cheat on taxes. And there’s plenty of evidence out in the open that he’s been inflating the value of what he owns to apply for loans and then way devaluating it when contesting property taxes.

I’m afraid it’s you who hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing out so far is all that exotic. And to reiterate: any serious look at how Trump has paid minimal taxes would be nuclear for the donor class. Which politico or appointee is going to go there???

Tax fraud doesn’t need to be “exotic” to be illegal. And, not sure if this is what Vance is looking into or whether it’s too old at this point, but what the family did with All County Building Supply & Maintenance Corp. is both.

Getting hung up on 'exotic' has yet to convince me that there's something actionable, especially if you consider the pressures the authorities have been responsive to in recent years.

And because someone had it deleted, I'll again remind people that Mitt Romney's taxes were full of very disturbing red flags and those were memory holed very, very quickly. And if you're inside the beltway and you didn't understand that then you are very much part of a problem that dwarfs anything Trump and family have been up to these past decades.

It's not actionable for you. But apparently it's actionable for the Manhattan DA.

I wasn't into politics in 2012, when Romney ran for President so I can't speak to the details. But he did release his taxes. Likely the holes *WERE* informally investigated and nothing came of it.

Let's just see what happens, shall we?

It’s stuff that’s almost never gone after: it’s recent precedent (aka a highly captured legal system) that leaves me unimpressed.

Now if it were up to me, the entire donor class would be blown up by better tax law and enforcement. The rest of you can keep thinking Trump is some great aberration, but I’m as asymptotically close to as is possible he’s not.

Trump set alot of new precedents.

I do think Trump is an aberration. He's a clown who drew too much attention. These people always get extra attention from law enforcement. Every other rich person on the planet knows this. Why doesn't he? People who flaunt their tax fraud will be taken down.

I'm with you on his being a clown who drew too much attention. But I don't think he's half as savagely mercenary as the nasty rich pieces of work I know who really game the system. Given how much money he inherited and the fact that he was largely focused on asset that went parabolic during his public ascent, i.e. NYC RE, he should be worth much , much more if he was at all competent with things like tax avoidance. I'm still very doubtful there's something juicy to be found here.

Competence is not a word one would associate with Trump. If he were half-way competent, he wouldn't have bankrupted a casino business. I have ZERO doubts that he has committed lots of financial crimes. Easiest to prove among them, would be tax fraud.