Villarreal Virginia Academy: imploding?

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will not get looked at by the pro team in Spain and has no chance to make it into the actual pro team in Spain. I’m sorry. If they were good enough, you wouldn’t be paying thousands just to wear their colors. I actually quite like Villarreal CF, but this thread has gone from “Bo Amato has a high college recruitment rate” to “my kid will play in La Liga.”

You are really funny ?. Imagine if one word you said was true!! I never said my kid would play in la liga. If anyone’s kid is not good enough for la liga, villarreal would sell the player to a lower division team or even the mls.

"There will be an opportunity for selected players based on recommendation, skills and performance, to visit Villarreal CF Spain for individual tryouts and team training."

It's right there on the website: http://villarrealvaacademy.org/.

That's what they're promising. Problem is it's a baldfaced lie and they know it.

1. It's against FIFA rules for youth players to move countries for soccer reasons. If a kid's parents happen to relocate for work related reasons, and the kid just happens to be good at soccer, and ends up in an academy, that's fine. But soccer can't be the reason for the move. FIFA will investigate and the sanctions have been significant. When they cracked down on Barca a few years ago they imposed a 2 season transfer ban. The fallout and ripple effect of that was felt all over Europe. The clubs don't mess around with this any more.

Do players still move to Europe? Sure. But they do it in a way that makes it look like it's for non-soccer family/work reasons, and the kid usually plays amateur level for a year before being "found" and transferring to an academy. Even then FIFA will look into it. Any kid trying to transfer after going for a "tryout" would be immediately red flagged. It just isn't going to happen.

Putting aside #1 though,

2. Even if Villarreal CF was interested in scouting and recruiting players from this area, they would not be looking at VIVA. That would make zero sense. They would go where the best players are. In the past when European clubs did that it meant sending teams and scouts to the top flights of the biggest tournaments. That's how local (Beth-Olney) product Gideon Zelalem was scouted by Arsenal - at the Dallas Cup. Nowadays it would mean going to DA showcases and/or the GA Cup.

3. The players are nowhere near the level to even be considered for Villarreal CF's academy. I'm not trying to be mean but that's just a fact. A couple of them at most might get a look at one of the local DAs, but to be honest even that's a stretch. With the exception of VDA - which is really hurting in this age group - I don't think anyone on that field would have a realistic chance of making Arlington, DCU or Bethesda. They are good travel soccer players, but they are not prospective future pros.

What boils me up is that Bo and Carlos know all 3 of these things perfectly well, but they still have no problem lying to people to get them to join and stay with the program, by convincing them that playing with VIVA is a way to "get looked at" by the professional team in Spain.

Very unethical people.

Could not agree more!!!! Bo and Carlos DO know these things damn well yet have no problem stating it on the website. This is false advertisement at best and needs to be looked into by the US Soccer. Organizations should not lie to the players and parents in order to get their money. Essentially, it is a fraud on a large scale.

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Anonymous wrote:Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

Why are you on this website? It isn’t about cougars/olympiacos. So please tell me why you are on this site when it is talking about villarreal/viva?

I'm not here b/c of olympiacos, I'm addressing VIVA/ABGC's lack of ability to be competent. In prior pages, someone said they were with VIVA and moving to Olympiacos because of this mess and someone including yourself decided to bash them. This is very related to VIVA/ABGC.

Please read your previous quotes because you are clearly trying to spread cougars/olympiacos. Please tell me why any would want to go to the number 17 team in the state (cougars/olympiacos) because I would rather have my kid go to the number 2 team in the state(viva/villarreal).

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but going after Olympiacos like you are is only making you seem petty, defensive, and insecure. Olympiacos practices at Pine Ridge, in Annandale, so they are clearly an option to consider for anyone currently at VIVA.

As for your statement that you'd rather have your kid go to the team with the 2nd most gotsoccer points in the state than the team with the 17th most gotsoccer points in the state - that may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site.

I'd rather send my kid to the team with better coaching.

Bo gets decent results playing direct soccer with man-children. Always has, always will. Doesn't matter what logo you put on the jersey, that's not going to change. If you think I'm wrong about that, please post video.

You are so funny bo has put more kids into college than any coach in the area. If olympiacos is so good why do they only talk about their 05 age group on instagram and your OLYMPIACOS WEBSITE. I will tell you why because Harry karageorge and his rebels have their kids play on the 05 team.They play in the lowest tournaments and lose. They really don’t care about any other team other than the 05’s.

My kid doesn't play for Olympiacos and I have no idea who Harry is.

Bo's good at marketing himself, I'll give him that. He's been around for a long time, won a few state cups. "Put more kids in college than any coach in the area"? That I highly doubt.

Anyway, I did find some video.

Please note that I'm not posting this so people can come on and take cheap shots at the kids. The coach is fair game though IMO. For example, I love the way he has them taking their goal kicks. Yep, you sure can see that La Liga influence all over this team, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQRM9lN_fE

I tried to watch this, had to stop after 5 minutes. Ugh. That team is really ranked #2 in the state? They are playing volleyball.

Well the state level is not that high obviously. All top teams including DAs are playing pin pong - no ball possession, running and kicking. La Liga - here we come, take us!!!! may be our boys can help with field maintenance there or sell candies at the games

Maybe ball boys. Clearly they specialize in chasing them down

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will not get looked at by the pro team in Spain and has no chance to make it into the actual pro team in Spain. I’m sorry. If they were good enough, you wouldn’t be paying thousands just to wear their colors. I actually quite like Villarreal CF, but this thread has gone from “Bo Amato has a high college recruitment rate” to “my kid will play in La Liga.”

You are really funny ?. Imagine if one word you said was true!! I never said my kid would play in la liga. If anyone’s kid is not good enough for la liga, villarreal would sell the player to a lower division team or even the mls.

"There will be an opportunity for selected players based on recommendation, skills and performance, to visit Villarreal CF Spain for individual tryouts and team training."

It's right there on the website: http://villarrealvaacademy.org/.

That's what they're promising. Problem is it's a baldfaced lie and they know it.

1. It's against FIFA rules for youth players to move countries for soccer reasons. If a kid's parents happen to relocate for work related reasons, and the kid just happens to be good at soccer, and ends up in an academy, that's fine. But soccer can't be the reason for the move. FIFA will investigate and the sanctions have been significant. When they cracked down on Barca a few years ago they imposed a 2 season transfer ban. The fallout and ripple effect of that was felt all over Europe. The clubs don't mess around with this any more.

Do players still move to Europe? Sure. But they do it in a way that makes it look like it's for non-soccer family/work reasons, and the kid usually plays amateur level for a year before being "found" and transferring to an academy. Even then FIFA will look into it. Any kid trying to transfer after going for a "tryout" would be immediately red flagged. It just isn't going to happen.

Putting aside #1 though,

2. Even if Villarreal CF was interested in scouting and recruiting players from this area, they would not be looking at VIVA. That would make zero sense. They would go where the best players are. In the past when European clubs did that it meant sending teams and scouts to the top flights of the biggest tournaments. That's how local (Beth-Olney) product Gideon Zelalem was scouted by Arsenal - at the Dallas Cup. Nowadays it would mean going to DA showcases and/or the GA Cup.

3. The players are nowhere near the level to even be considered for Villarreal CF's academy. I'm not trying to be mean but that's just a fact. A couple of them at most might get a look at one of the local DAs, but to be honest even that's a stretch. With the exception of VDA - which is really hurting in this age group - I don't think anyone on that field would have a realistic chance of making Arlington, DCU or Bethesda. They are good travel soccer players, but they are not prospective future pros.

What boils me up is that Bo and Carlos know all 3 of these things perfectly well, but they still have no problem lying to people to get them to join and stay with the program, by convincing them that playing with VIVA is a way to "get looked at" by the professional team in Spain.

Very unethical people.

Could not agree more!!!! Bo and Carlos DO know these things damn well yet have no problem stating it on the website. This is false advertisement at best and needs to be looked into by the US Soccer. Organizations should not lie to the players and parents in order to get their money. Essentially, it is a fraud on a large scale.

BTW, the opportunity for visits and team training is offered by any European club. It is called commercial camps - another pay-to-play opportunity for a week or two. Nothing wrong with this, but do not confuse it with an opportunity for anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

Why are you on this website? It isn’t about cougars/olympiacos. So please tell me why you are on this site when it is talking about villarreal/viva?

I'm not here b/c of olympiacos, I'm addressing VIVA/ABGC's lack of ability to be competent. In prior pages, someone said they were with VIVA and moving to Olympiacos because of this mess and someone including yourself decided to bash them. This is very related to VIVA/ABGC.

Please read your previous quotes because you are clearly trying to spread cougars/olympiacos. Please tell me why any would want to go to the number 17 team in the state (cougars/olympiacos) because I would rather have my kid go to the number 2 team in the state(viva/villarreal).

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but going after Olympiacos like you are is only making you seem petty, defensive, and insecure. Olympiacos practices at Pine Ridge, in Annandale, so they are clearly an option to consider for anyone currently at VIVA.

As for your statement that you'd rather have your kid go to the team with the 2nd most gotsoccer points in the state than the team with the 17th most gotsoccer points in the state - that may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site.

I'd rather send my kid to the team with better coaching.

Bo gets decent results playing direct soccer with man-children. Always has, always will. Doesn't matter what logo you put on the jersey, that's not going to change. If you think I'm wrong about that, please post video.

You are so funny bo has put more kids into college than any coach in the area. If olympiacos is so good why do they only talk about their 05 age group on instagram and your OLYMPIACOS WEBSITE. I will tell you why because Harry karageorge and his rebels have their kids play on the 05 team.They play in the lowest tournaments and lose. They really don’t care about any other team other than the 05’s.

My kid doesn't play for Olympiacos and I have no idea who Harry is.

Bo's good at marketing himself, I'll give him that. He's been around for a long time, won a few state cups. "Put more kids in college than any coach in the area"? That I highly doubt.

Anyway, I did find some video.

Please note that I'm not posting this so people can come on and take cheap shots at the kids. The coach is fair game though IMO. For example, I love the way he has them taking their goal kicks. Yep, you sure can see that La Liga influence all over this team, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQRM9lN_fE

I see NO La Liga influence in this video. They do not connect a lot of passes and all is the same basic US kickball.
Taking goal kicks has nothing to do with modern soccer. Wake up dear parent.

They don’t even scan or look to receive and turn with their first touch. They take a touch (usually quite heavy) then turn clunkily then look up to try to play forward. Look at their very first pass out to the wing immediately after kickoff. The lane is there to easily get that pass out there on the ground, instead it’s practically a punt, the winger struggles to bring it down, gets closed down while waiting for that ball to come down and almost gives up a throw in. This tells you how the team plays in a nutshell, and they’re ranked #2? Lol

Great analysis of the 05 team play!!!! I have observed it for a year now. Always the same play - kick forward into pressure. Bo calls a pass back a negative pass. Well, million of negative passes then made in La Liga over a season. Yes these guys are #2 and may be deservingly so. All it tells us that others are even worse. I have seen some teams play a different style- passing, control, offside traps etc. However, size really matters at this age. Barcelona academy in Spain always looses to big kids from Serbia, France etc. Then it all changes after U17. In other words, u14 wins, rankings etc. do not a matter. What matters is education of players, which hardly exists.

The thing is, even when they do play a back pass (negative pass?) they follow it up with another negative pass by booting it first time and lose the majority of those 50/50s, giving up possession. They could be using the back pass to bait opponents into pressing out of their bloc, where gaps between the lines and behind the bloc would open up, and not only could they play their way through more easily, but their direct approach would be more successful. They could also use it to get the opponents to shift and stack one side of the field, then quickly switch the POA and try to penetrate on the opposite side; but nope, boot it long. If you do it 50 times a game, of course you might get through a couple times, but you’re only exploiting a limitation that players have because at that age kids aren’t fully developed physically, it’s not realistic and won’t translate as well to the top/older levels. As for the goal kicks, okay you have a direct approach. Having the centerback take it not only leaves you open to getting killed on the counterpress if the opponents win the 50/50 at midfield, as there’s a huge gulf between the last man who took the goal kick and the rest of the bloc; but also setting up short can bait the opponents into pressing up, which opens up your second and third level direct passing options. It’s just poor tactics and coaching.

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Anonymous wrote:Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

Why are you on this website? It isn’t about cougars/olympiacos. So please tell me why you are on this site when it is talking about villarreal/viva?

I'm not here b/c of olympiacos, I'm addressing VIVA/ABGC's lack of ability to be competent. In prior pages, someone said they were with VIVA and moving to Olympiacos because of this mess and someone including yourself decided to bash them. This is very related to VIVA/ABGC.

Please read your previous quotes because you are clearly trying to spread cougars/olympiacos. Please tell me why any would want to go to the number 17 team in the state (cougars/olympiacos) because I would rather have my kid go to the number 2 team in the state(viva/villarreal).

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but going after Olympiacos like you are is only making you seem petty, defensive, and insecure. Olympiacos practices at Pine Ridge, in Annandale, so they are clearly an option to consider for anyone currently at VIVA.

As for your statement that you'd rather have your kid go to the team with the 2nd most gotsoccer points in the state than the team with the 17th most gotsoccer points in the state - that may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site.

I'd rather send my kid to the team with better coaching.

Bo gets decent results playing direct soccer with man-children. Always has, always will. Doesn't matter what logo you put on the jersey, that's not going to change. If you think I'm wrong about that, please post video.

You are so funny bo has put more kids into college than any coach in the area. If olympiacos is so good why do they only talk about their 05 age group on instagram and your OLYMPIACOS WEBSITE. I will tell you why because Harry karageorge and his rebels have their kids play on the 05 team.They play in the lowest tournaments and lose. They really don’t care about any other team other than the 05’s.

My kid doesn't play for Olympiacos and I have no idea who Harry is.

Bo's good at marketing himself, I'll give him that. He's been around for a long time, won a few state cups. "Put more kids in college than any coach in the area"? That I highly doubt.

Anyway, I did find some video.

Please note that I'm not posting this so people can come on and take cheap shots at the kids. The coach is fair game though IMO. For example, I love the way he has them taking their goal kicks. Yep, you sure can see that La Liga influence all over this team, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQRM9lN_fE

I see NO La Liga influence in this video. They do not connect a lot of passes and all is the same basic US kickball.
Taking goal kicks has nothing to do with modern soccer. Wake up dear parent.

OMG did you seriously miss the sarcasm there dear parent?

Let me try and spell it out for you:

They aren't trying to play out of the back from goal kicks. He has his central defender come in and boot it long every time - presumably because he can kick farther than the goalie.

If the Spanish coaches they brought over had any influence at all, there is no way they would let the team take goal kicks that way.

So yeah, I'm agreeing with you. No La Liga influence. It was a joke.

Sorry, did not get the joke until I had already posted . Taking this too seriously . We all agree it is a kick ball. Zero influence from Spanish coaches, but 100% Bo style of soccer. Unfortunately, it works here and he won some HS games with this. It has nothing to do with real soccer La Liga or any other league including Turkey, Russia, Finland etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

Why are you on this website? It isn’t about cougars/olympiacos. So please tell me why you are on this site when it is talking about villarreal/viva?

I'm not here b/c of olympiacos, I'm addressing VIVA/ABGC's lack of ability to be competent. In prior pages, someone said they were with VIVA and moving to Olympiacos because of this mess and someone including yourself decided to bash them. This is very related to VIVA/ABGC.

Please read your previous quotes because you are clearly trying to spread cougars/olympiacos. Please tell me why any would want to go to the number 17 team in the state (cougars/olympiacos) because I would rather have my kid go to the number 2 team in the state(viva/villarreal).

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but going after Olympiacos like you are is only making you seem petty, defensive, and insecure. Olympiacos practices at Pine Ridge, in Annandale, so they are clearly an option to consider for anyone currently at VIVA.

As for your statement that you'd rather have your kid go to the team with the 2nd most gotsoccer points in the state than the team with the 17th most gotsoccer points in the state - that may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site.

I'd rather send my kid to the team with better coaching.

Bo gets decent results playing direct soccer with man-children. Always has, always will. Doesn't matter what logo you put on the jersey, that's not going to change. If you think I'm wrong about that, please post video.

You are so funny bo has put more kids into college than any coach in the area. If olympiacos is so good why do they only talk about their 05 age group on instagram and your OLYMPIACOS WEBSITE. I will tell you why because Harry karageorge and his rebels have their kids play on the 05 team.They play in the lowest tournaments and lose. They really don’t care about any other team other than the 05’s.

My kid doesn't play for Olympiacos and I have no idea who Harry is.

Bo's good at marketing himself, I'll give him that. He's been around for a long time, won a few state cups. "Put more kids in college than any coach in the area"? That I highly doubt.

Anyway, I did find some video.

Please note that I'm not posting this so people can come on and take cheap shots at the kids. The coach is fair game though IMO. For example, I love the way he has them taking their goal kicks. Yep, you sure can see that La Liga influence all over this team, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQRM9lN_fE

I see NO La Liga influence in this video. They do not connect a lot of passes and all is the same basic US kickball.
Taking goal kicks has nothing to do with modern soccer. Wake up dear parent.

They don’t even scan or look to receive and turn with their first touch. They take a touch (usually quite heavy) then turn clunkily then look up to try to play forward. Look at their very first pass out to the wing immediately after kickoff. The lane is there to easily get that pass out there on the ground, instead it’s practically a punt, the winger struggles to bring it down, gets closed down while waiting for that ball to come down and almost gives up a throw in. This tells you how the team plays in a nutshell, and they’re ranked #2? Lol

Great analysis of the 05 team play!!!! I have observed it for a year now. Always the same play - kick forward into pressure. Bo calls a pass back a negative pass. Well, million of negative passes then made in La Liga over a season. Yes these guys are #2 and may be deservingly so. All it tells us that others are even worse. I have seen some teams play a different style- passing, control, offside traps etc. However, size really matters at this age. Barcelona academy in Spain always looses to big kids from Serbia, France etc. Then it all changes after U17. In other words, u14 wins, rankings etc. do not a matter. What matters is education of players, which hardly exists.

The thing is, even when they do play a back pass (negative pass?) they follow it up with another negative pass by booting it first time and lose the majority of those 50/50s, giving up possession. They could be using the back pass to bait opponents into pressing out of their bloc, where gaps between the lines and behind the bloc would open up, and not only could they play their way through more easily, but their direct approach would be more successful. They could also use it to get the opponents to shift and stack one side of the field, then quickly switch the POA and try to penetrate on the opposite side; but nope, boot it long. If you do it 50 times a game, of course you might get through a couple times, but you’re only exploiting a limitation that players have because at that age kids aren’t fully developed physically, it’s not realistic and won’t translate as well to the top/older levels. As for the goal kicks, okay you have a direct approach. Having the centerback take it not only leaves you open to getting killed on the counterpress if the opponents win the 50/50 at midfield, as there’s a huge gulf between the last man who took the goal kick and the rest of the bloc; but also setting up short can bait the opponents into pressing up, which opens up your second and third level direct passing options. It’s just poor tactics and coaching.

Great post!!!!! Just to add - you need a super fats kid in front. Without him this will never work.
I think I know who you are Only a few people in the area understand soccer that well. Thank you very much for posting here - hope it really helps some parents to understand the US soccer.

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Their 9s even at the oldest age groups are really athletic, good size, shoot decently and are very fast. I’m not saying that they don’t have good players some who possess good technical ability who are capable of more; but the style that they play is very classic American in nature.

I have been watching La Liga, Serie A, EPL & EFL, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Portuguese League, South American futbol, MLS & Liga MX, and Internacional Soccer for 20+ years. Most teams especially at club level or national teams like Uruguay, have a personality or style that you can identify them with for the most part (obviously this can change depending on a number of factors.) Villarreal CF have had a more direct approach in recent years compared to the mid 2000s when they had Riquelme and Forlan, but I see very little of their influence on what VIVA try to do and this is prevalent across the age groups. In my opinion, they are just clsssic ABGC/AUFC but now they have yellow jerseys and vacation packages to Castellon. I wonder how much money Fernando Roig makes out of this venture. I could be wrong of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Their 9s even at the oldest age groups are really athletic, good size, shoot decently and are very fast. I’m not saying that they don’t have good players some who possess good technical ability who are capable of more; but the style that they play is very classic American in nature.

I have been watching La Liga, Serie A, EPL & EFL, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Portuguese League, South American futbol, MLS & Liga MX, and Internacional Soccer for 20+ years. Most teams especially at club level or national teams like Uruguay, have a personality or style that you can identify them with for the most part (obviously this can change depending on a number of factors.) Villarreal CF have had a more direct approach in recent years compared to the mid 2000s when they had Riquelme and Forlan, but I see very little of their influence on what VIVA try to do and this is prevalent across the age groups. In my opinion, they are just clsssic ABGC/AUFC but now they have yellow jerseys and vacation packages to Castellon. I wonder how much money Fernando Roig makes out of this venture. I could be wrong of course.

A plus post!!!!! I think Fernando lost money and credibility in the process. All clubs in VA have sprinklings of good players who are generally being wasted by the coaching like the one provided by Bo, Carlos, Nick etc. All these so-called coaches want to see is - kids that are big for their age and who can dominated without any real coaching or any kind of tactical approach. Then, all goes to nothing when they are U16-17

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Wow, this is a new low. Horrible thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Their 9s even at the oldest age groups are really athletic, good size, shoot decently and are very fast. I’m not saying that they don’t have good players some who possess good technical ability who are capable of more; but the style that they play is very classic American in nature.

I have been watching La Liga, Serie A, EPL & EFL, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Portuguese League, South American futbol, MLS & Liga MX, and Internacional Soccer for 20+ years. Most teams especially at club level or national teams like Uruguay, have a personality or style that you can identify them with for the most part (obviously this can change depending on a number of factors.) Villarreal CF have had a more direct approach in recent years compared to the mid 2000s when they had Riquelme and Forlan, but I see very little of their influence on what VIVA try to do and this is prevalent across the age groups. In my opinion, they are just clsssic ABGC/AUFC but now they have yellow jerseys and vacation packages to Castellon. I wonder how much money Fernando Roig makes out of this venture. I could be wrong of course.

A plus post!!!!! I think Fernando lost money and credibility in the process. All clubs in VA have sprinklings of good players who are generally being wasted by the coaching like the one provided by Bo, Carlos, Nick etc. All these so-called coaches want to see is - kids that are big for their age and who can dominated without any real coaching or any kind of tactical approach. Then, all goes to nothing when they are U16-17

So is that why bo won u18 vysa states in 2014?

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Anonymous wrote:Their 9s even at the oldest age groups are really athletic, good size, shoot decently and are very fast. I’m not saying that they don’t have good players some who possess good technical ability who are capable of more; but the style that they play is very classic American in nature.

I have been watching La Liga, Serie A, EPL & EFL, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Portuguese League, South American futbol, MLS & Liga MX, and Internacional Soccer for 20+ years. Most teams especially at club level or national teams like Uruguay, have a personality or style that you can identify them with for the most part (obviously this can change depending on a number of factors.) Villarreal CF have had a more direct approach in recent years compared to the mid 2000s when they had Riquelme and Forlan, but I see very little of their influence on what VIVA try to do and this is prevalent across the age groups. In my opinion, they are just clsssic ABGC/AUFC but now they have yellow jerseys and vacation packages to Castellon. I wonder how much money Fernando Roig makes out of this venture. I could be wrong of course.

A plus post!!!!! I think Fernando lost money and credibility in the process. All clubs in VA have sprinklings of good players who are generally being wasted by the coaching like the one provided by Bo, Carlos, Nick etc. All these so-called coaches want to see is - kids that are big for their age and who can dominated without any real coaching or any kind of tactical approach. Then, all goes to nothing when they are U16-17

So is that why bo won u18 vysa states in 2014?

Exactly why Had big fast kids who played kick ball against other kick ball teams. Never had a team that played a good soccer and never had any single person turn pro after 30 years of coaching. That is why Bo who is posting this will not answer any questions here. Instead of saying guys I am Bo, that is what we are trying to do with VIVA, he comes into the forum and post anonymous staff. Very mature coach.

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Anonymous wrote:Their 9s even at the oldest age groups are really athletic, good size, shoot decently and are very fast. I’m not saying that they don’t have good players some who possess good technical ability who are capable of more; but the style that they play is very classic American in nature.

I have been watching La Liga, Serie A, EPL & EFL, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Portuguese League, South American futbol, MLS & Liga MX, and Internacional Soccer for 20+ years. Most teams especially at club level or national teams like Uruguay, have a personality or style that you can identify them with for the most part (obviously this can change depending on a number of factors.) Villarreal CF have had a more direct approach in recent years compared to the mid 2000s when they had Riquelme and Forlan, but I see very little of their influence on what VIVA try to do and this is prevalent across the age groups. In my opinion, they are just clsssic ABGC/AUFC but now they have yellow jerseys and vacation packages to Castellon. I wonder how much money Fernando Roig makes out of this venture. I could be wrong of course.

A plus post!!!!! I think Fernando lost money and credibility in the process. All clubs in VA have sprinklings of good players who are generally being wasted by the coaching like the one provided by Bo, Carlos, Nick etc. All these so-called coaches want to see is - kids that are big for their age and who can dominated without any real coaching or any kind of tactical approach. Then, all goes to nothing when they are U16-17

So is that why bo won u18 vysa states in 2014?

Exactly why Had big fast kids who played kick ball against other kick ball teams. Never had a team that played a good soccer and never had any single person turn pro after 30 years of coaching. That is why Bo who is posting this will not answer any questions here. Instead of saying guys I am Bo, that is what we are trying to do with VIVA, he comes into the forum and post anonymous staff. Very mature coach.

What are you smoking everyone is fast at u18. So they obviously can’t play kickball. You are just an American parent who thinks they know everything about soccer. I don’t know if you know this but Bo knows way more soccer knowledge than you. He played for Tottenham’s youth team as a kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Their 9s even at the oldest age groups are really athletic, good size, shoot decently and are very fast. I’m not saying that they don’t have good players some who possess good technical ability who are capable of more; but the style that they play is very classic American in nature.

I have been watching La Liga, Serie A, EPL & EFL, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Portuguese League, South American futbol, MLS & Liga MX, and Internacional Soccer for 20+ years. Most teams especially at club level or national teams like Uruguay, have a personality or style that you can identify them with for the most part (obviously this can change depending on a number of factors.) Villarreal CF have had a more direct approach in recent years compared to the mid 2000s when they had Riquelme and Forlan, but I see very little of their influence on what VIVA try to do and this is prevalent across the age groups. In my opinion, they are just clsssic ABGC/AUFC but now they have yellow jerseys and vacation packages to Castellon. I wonder how much money Fernando Roig makes out of this venture. I could be wrong of course.

A plus post!!!!! I think Fernando lost money and credibility in the process. All clubs in VA have sprinklings of good players who are generally being wasted by the coaching like the one provided by Bo, Carlos, Nick etc. All these so-called coaches want to see is - kids that are big for their age and who can dominated without any real coaching or any kind of tactical approach. Then, all goes to nothing when they are U16-17

So is that why bo won u18 vysa states in 2014?

Exactly why Had big fast kids who played kick ball against other kick ball teams. Never had a team that played a good soccer and never had any single person turn pro after 30 years of coaching. That is why Bo who is posting this will not answer any questions here. Instead of saying guys I am Bo, that is what we are trying to do with VIVA, he comes into the forum and post anonymous staff. Very mature coach.

What are you smoking everyone is fast at u18. So they obviously can’t play kickball. You are just an American parent who thinks they know everything about soccer. I don’t know if you know this but Bo knows way more soccer knowledge than you. He played for Tottenham’s youth team as a kid.

Sure Bo, we know where you played 35 years ago. Some youth team does not matter in terms of coaching. We also know how you coach and how your teams play and how many descent players you ruined. Yes you are not American - well, great. Does this make you a better coach or a person? As I said before, why post anonymously. I know it is YOU and you do too!!!! Come to the forum and answer questions from parents. It will only help your situation. Come as a real person and say - this is what happened. That is what we are trying to do etc. May get more than a couple of people at the try outs today Stop acting like one of the stupid kids you coach. You know you have already lost most of the best kids. Try to salvage the situation instead of posting here pretending it is not YOU. Not smart, really.

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This thread is turning into that epic one about the radio DJs. Two people having a yelling match in public.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is turning into that epic one about the radio DJs. Two people having a yelling match in public.

true, but radio DJs reveal their identities here we have Bo pretending to be someone else while this thread is about his soccer academy.