Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:And CIS is listed as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies

Great source, MAGA.


Wait - you mean you're still taking the SPLC seriously?! Oh, the irony!
https://www.newyorkercom/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center
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Anonymous wrote:This thread is an excellent example of what idiots Trump-supporters are. They don't understand what sanctuary cities are. They don't get that using human beings as pawns in political games is wrong. They spew fallacies about what "Democrats want" on immigration based on right-wing propaganda.

Pathetic and deplorable.


I'm not a Trump supporter, but b/c of your attitude (as you reflect the norm), I happily escaped the Ds.

At the root of this issue are two topics: NIMBYism and hypocrisy, which are intertwined.

Sanctuary cities are MUCH MORE receptive with regard to illegal immigration. There are NO guarantees regarding security; that's understood. However, the liberalism in those areas is widespread and thus, accepting.

I can personally speak to Montgomery County, having lived there for a large chunk of my life.

It's a win-win with Nancy Navarro on the County Council and CASA in Wheaton, right? a match made in heaven!

But then something suddenly changed. Trump hastily made another statement about sanctuary cities absorbing illegal immigrants. ICE cleared up the issue, shouting about budgetary constraints and dangers to the immigrants, not to mention the legalities around transporting them.

fine - not the first time Trump put his food in his mouth, right?

But what was amazing were the responses from liberals. Regardless of obstacles facing ICE over this issue, liberals were the first ones to jump on Trump for making this suggestion. Where was the COMPASSION for them? Why didn't any of you jump in and offer solutions? Instead, you attacked Trump for making this suggestion. You didn't worry about those who struggled for weeks to WALK their way to the border.

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But you offered no solutions.

They WILL end up in sanctuary cities. I hope you all know that. So maybe then you'll show some compassion b/c NIMBYism and hypocrisy are ugly, especially for die-hard liberals.


Agree completely!

I didn't vote for Trump, but this idea makes complete sense. I'm a resident of Montgomery County, and they should be welcoming this idea.

This has brought out the hypocrisy of liberals full force.



Ok, deplorable.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh boy, nazis are running America. Remember when things were normal under Obama?


AGAIN:

Why don't you want migrants coming to sanctuary cities?



When will trumpservatives have critical thinking? If you see nothing wrong in what the news report is we have nothing to talk. You guys are walking robots of a cult.


You punted. You don't have a good answer.
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Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.


Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?


Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.


Which lesson?


So sending them to a welcoming environment with a strong network of social services is teaching a lesson to whom?

I'm confused.


I’m not. Trump could cure cancer and the libs would find some reason to bitch about it. “He’s making money off his cure! His reasons weren’t pure! What an evil evil man!”

The outcome is irrelevant, as long as they have something to bitch about the process.



What do you think Trump’s motivations are here? The well-being of the detainees?



You are blinded by your hate. He has a Major crisis to deal with. What exactly is he supposed to the all of them? Keep them in pens? Relocate them to places that will not be welcomed and supported by the community? I'm serious, what is your solution?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s absurd how certain people are pretending this proposal died because sanctuary cities refused to take people in, rather than because ICE doesn’t have the money to transport them that far and there are huge liability risks if there’s an accident along the way. Trump and Miller made a stupid and dangerous suggestion that ICE rejected as unworkable. That’s all this is about.


It is not just stupid and dangerous. The idea is full of spite and a plan to portray immigrants as some kind of animals that they would be released in sanctuary cities to teach those "libs" a lesson. It is dehumanizing immigrants. Trump has been trying to teach a lesson to the blue states; by taking away SALT deductions, coming in the way of providing adequate disaster relief, taking away money allocated for healthcare etc. This is yet another ploy in his devious plan to teach lessons to people who did not support and vote for him.

No, liberals are not criticizing to welcome the immigrants (wish Trump gets dropped on his head and wake up to actually do that), they are criticizing Trump's vindictiveness and deviousness. He does not act presidential even for a second. With his spiteful approach to every policy) he will never be a president for all Americans! He is disgusting, so are the people who support his policies and gaslight anyone who dare to criticize their Dear Leader.



Liberals hate the taste of their own medicine.


This is the example of what is wrong with this idea. Imagine if a Democratic president suggested, let us change laws to give gun license to people suffering from mental health only if they move to a red state!


This makes no sense. No one is suggesting a change of laws. Sanctuary cities are legal, correct? Might as well make themselves useful.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a progressive who was a staffer on the Hill and I find this kind of funny.

We need to remember these tactics so when we are back in power, we can troll the other side just as hard.


What tactic. You loved illegal immigration until you didn't?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s absurd how certain people are pretending this proposal died because sanctuary cities refused to take people in, rather than because ICE doesn’t have the money to transport them that far and there are huge liability risks if there’s an accident along the way. Trump and Miller made a stupid and dangerous suggestion that ICE rejected as unworkable. That’s all this is about.


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It really doesn't matter, however. Does it?

Ridiculous or not, even if there were a logistical and safe way to transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities or "welcoming cities," the responses on this thread are STILL very telling.

Show of hands - those of you in Mo Co . . . would you welcome these folks, many who have faced a lifetime of obstacles, into your community if ICE transported them to - oh - Wheaton?



Yes (and kick you out)


So displace am American Family for illegal aliens?

You are a parody of a loon but sadly real. Take them into your home. You want them here so bad. Displace yourself. Let a family live in your home.



No, you don't get it. The family doesn't have to live in my home. The family will live in YOUR home, after we kick you OUT. Then everybody is happy.


DP. You are unhinged. YOU clearly don't get it. Liberals have been crowing for years about how they "welcome" immigrants - illegal and otherwise - to this country. So put your money where your mouth is and open your home to them. Otherwise, you're simply a giant hypocrite.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s absurd how certain people are pretending this proposal died because sanctuary cities refused to take people in, rather than because ICE doesn’t have the money to transport them that far and there are huge liability risks if there’s an accident along the way. Trump and Miller made a stupid and dangerous suggestion that ICE rejected as unworkable. That’s all this is about.


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It really doesn't matter, however. Does it?

Ridiculous or not, even if there were a logistical and safe way to transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities or "welcoming cities," the responses on this thread are STILL very telling.

Show of hands - those of you in Mo Co . . . would you welcome these folks, many who have faced a lifetime of obstacles, into your community if ICE transported them to - oh - Wheaton?



Yes (and kick you out)


So displace am American Family for illegal aliens?

You are a parody of a loon but sadly real. Take them into your home. You want them here so bad. Displace yourself. Let a family live in your home.



No, you don't get it. The family doesn't have to live in my home. The family will live in YOUR home, after we kick you OUT. Then everybody is happy.


How are you all going to kick us out of our home?


Awaiting your answer of how you will remove a home owning family from their home to move a family of illegal immigrants in.




Don't waste your time trying to reason with idiots.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does it not matter to conservatives that their Dear Leader is a spiteful a**hole and vindictiveness drives all his policies?


Because they hate us more than anything in this world. They don't care about policy, they only care about hurting "the libs" and people that live in blue states.


Liberals say immigrants improve their community, add to the community wealth, etc. How then would sending immigrants to liberal communities hurt liberals?


I for one would have no problem with an orderly transport of immigrants to my city. I do however have a major problem with my President acting as if placing immigrants around the country is a way of punishing liberals and acting like he would be unleashing a torrent of criminals on our cities. That is an effed up mindframe. My ire has nothing to do with fearing the possibility of immigrants in my city, it has to do with fearing a President that takes actions HE BELIEVES are punitive towards his political opposition.


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It'd be one thing if he were proposing this because it was a good solution for the immigrants. But he only would want to do this to be vindictive to those who disagree with him. And he's using human beings as pawns in his twisted game.

He doesn't GAF about the immigrants. And he certainly DGAF about many US citizens - in fact, his intention is to harm them. The POTUS intends to harm US citizens. If you don't think that is f$cked up then I don't know what else to say.


Um, how does the POTUS intend to harm US citizens? Please do elaborate. This should be good.
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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t sound like Stephen Miller was looking out for their well-being.

““It was basically an idea that Miller wanted that nobody else wanted to carry out,” said one congressional investigator who has spoken to one of the whistleblowers. “What happened here is that Stephen Miller called people at ICE, said if they’re going to cut funding, you’ve got to make sure you’re releasing people in Pelosi’s district and other congressional districts.” The investigator spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect the whistleblower.”

“It was during that mid-February standoff that one whistleblower went to Congress alleging that the White House was considering a plan to punish Democrats if they did not relent on ICE funding for beds. A second official independently came forward after that.

According to both, there were at least two versions of the plan being considered. One was to move migrants who were already in ICE detention to the districts of Democratic opponents. The second option was to bus migrants apprehended at the border to sanctuary cities, such as New York, Chicago and San Francisco.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-targeting-political-foes/2019/04/11/72839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html



These plans were not meant to help immigrants...they were meant to PUNISH US citizens.


How? Liberals are constantly braying that immigrants, both illegal and legal, are a fine addition to this country, remember? So how would bringing these illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities - where presumably, they are welcome - be a punishment of any kind? You make no sense. But one thing is clear; you actually *don't* think these immigrants are a welcome addition, even though that runs completely contrary to everything you've been saying. Which makes you... a huge hypocrite.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s absurd how certain people are pretending this proposal died because sanctuary cities refused to take people in, rather than because ICE doesn’t have the money to transport them that far and there are huge liability risks if there’s an accident along the way. Trump and Miller made a stupid and dangerous suggestion that ICE rejected as unworkable. That’s all this is about.


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It really doesn't matter, however. Does it?

Ridiculous or not, even if there were a logistical and safe way to transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities or "welcoming cities," the responses on this thread are STILL very telling.

Show of hands - those of you in Mo Co . . . would you welcome these folks, many who have faced a lifetime of obstacles, into your community if ICE transported them to - oh - Wheaton?



Yes (and kick you out)


So displace am American Family for illegal aliens?

You are a parody of a loon but sadly real. Take them into your home. You want them here so bad. Displace yourself. Let a family live in your home.



No, you don't get it. The family doesn't have to live in my home. The family will live in YOUR home, after we kick you OUT. Then everybody is happy.



You are a textbook lib. You won’t give up your home for illegal families, but will remove-by some illegal force- another family- to house illegals.

You are really unhinged.


And you are a textbook con. No one said anything about using some illegal force to displace you.


DP. PLEASE. Can you even read? You, or your sicko friend, said exactly that. Bolded, for your convenience.
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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.


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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does it not matter to conservatives that their Dear Leader is a spiteful a**hole and vindictiveness drives all his policies?


Because they hate us more than anything in this world. They don't care about policy, they only care about hurting "the libs" and people that live in blue states.


Liberals say immigrants improve their community, add to the community wealth, etc. How then would sending immigrants to liberal communities hurt liberals?


I for one would have no problem with an orderly transport of immigrants to my city. I do however have a major problem with my President acting as if placing immigrants around the country is a way of punishing liberals and acting like he would be unleashing a torrent of criminals on our cities. That is an effed up mindframe. My ire has nothing to do with fearing the possibility of immigrants in my city, it has to do with fearing a President that takes actions HE BELIEVES are punitive towards his political opposition.


+1

It'd be one thing if he were proposing this because it was a good solution for the immigrants. But he only would want to do this to be vindictive to those who disagree with him. And he's using human beings as pawns in his twisted game.

He doesn't GAF about the immigrants. And he certainly DGAF about many US citizens - in fact, his intention is to harm them. The POTUS intends to harm US citizens. If you don't think that is f$cked up then I don't know what else to say.


Um, how does the POTUS intend to harm US citizens? Please do elaborate. This should be good.


Trump considers undocumented people to be violent criminals. He wanted to punish Dems and one idea he had with Stephan Miller was to bus immigrants (who he believes are dangerous) to the various sanctuary cities. Miller and Trump consider this a punishment. To put US citizens in what they think is harm’s way.

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Bet there are a ton of farms that need workers that would love to have them. Also the trucking industry is really short of drivers. Colorodo has a worker shortage.

Lots of ideas for places to send them.
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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.


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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.


TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?
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